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Examining the Civilizational Paradigm with Pankaj Mishra
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23:09 - 28:13 (05:03)

In this episode, Ezra Klein interviews Pankaj Mishra on his latest book and the concept behind the civilizational paradigm. They discuss the Gulf War and how it fits into this paradigm, as well as other historical events of that period.

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The host analyzes the core premise of author Samuel Huntington's book, "The Clash of Civilizations," which predicts that the next 50 years of the world will be shaped by the conflict between Islamic and Confucian values, and how evidence for his thesis is disregarded by the author himself.
23:09 - 24:28 (01:18)
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Geopolitics
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The host analyzes the core premise of author Samuel Huntington's book, "The Clash of Civilizations," which predicts that the next 50 years of the world will be shaped by the conflict between Islamic and Confucian values, and how evidence for his thesis is disregarded by the author himself.

Chapter
Examining the Civilizational Paradigm with Pankaj Mishra
Episode
The Clash of Civilizations
Podcast
If Books Could Kill
The Gulf War is seen as a conflict that evolved from a war between Iraq and Kuwait to a war between Islam and the West.
24:28 - 26:18 (01:49)
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Gulf War
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The Gulf War is seen as a conflict that evolved from a war between Iraq and Kuwait to a war between Islam and the West. India's 100 million Muslims mainly blamed the US for the Gulf War and almost all of Indonesia's 171 million Muslims were against US military action.

Chapter
Examining the Civilizational Paradigm with Pankaj Mishra
Episode
The Clash of Civilizations
Podcast
If Books Could Kill
The Gulf War has played a pivotal role in US-Iraq relations, leading to the complete destruction of Iraq and the rise of ISIS.
26:17 - 28:13 (01:55)
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Gulf War
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The Gulf War has played a pivotal role in US-Iraq relations, leading to the complete destruction of Iraq and the rise of ISIS. However, opposing the war is often wrongly perceived as irrational rather than a stance taken for valid reasons.

Chapter
Examining the Civilizational Paradigm with Pankaj Mishra
Episode
The Clash of Civilizations
Podcast
If Books Could Kill