The speaker reflects on his initial repulsion towards individuals like Ghislaine Maxwells and Liz Holmes, and the difficulty of suspending judgement to have a conversation with them. He also mentions regretting casually mentioning a conversation with Vladimir Putin without properly preparing for it.
The host expresses regret in mentioning Vladimir Putin in a casual and loose manner without deep thought, and also admits to rarely mentioning names he's interested in interviewing without making significant progress.
The speaker reflects on his initial reaction of revulsion towards sociopathic behavior exhibited by people like Ghislaine Maxwell and Elizabeth Holmes. He explores the complexity of applying empathy while also holding these individuals accountable and acknowledges his own limitations in this regard.
The guest shares their experience with anxiety in conversation, despite having a steady voice. However, they also discuss the importance of kindness and generosity in personal relationships.