Sarah Vowell discusses her pre-internet days creating videos and sending them around, and how making your own media can be empowering.
Fred Armisen talks about how he got into comedy and making videos before the internet.
The guest reminisces about making short films on VHS tapes of himself as different characters and sending copies around like records. No agent or representation, just a drummer at the time.
A discussion about the challenge of coordinating drum beats, specifically the "independence" technique where the bass drum and hi-hat are played at different times. The host and guest also talk about their favorite drummers, including Ringo Starr of The Beatles.