The speaker shares how he overcomes his fear of heights by climbing a 65-feet-tall cargo net every time he goes for a run, sitting on top of it, and breathing in the fear.
The spectrum of climbing ranges from short and intense to long and low intensity, with variations such as wall climbing which involves climbing a huge vertical rock walls over multiple days.
The speaker reflects on how climbing has helped them differentiate between fear and danger and discusses how much they notice the effects of energy products and caffeine while exercising. They suggest fear should be approached in a similar manner to how they approach energy products - registering when it is present but not letting it stop them from moving forward.
In a discussion about mortality, the host and guest talk about being aware of the finite nature of life and the risks that come with certain activities. The guest mentions wanting to stay safe in order to accomplish things he still wants to do.
The Near-Marathon is a narrow, 274-meter long passage that is less than a meter across, making it incredibly difficult to pass through. It is located in a cave and is known for being a challenging exploration experience.