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Going Direct in the Media
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52:26 - 53:17 (00:51)

The host and guest discuss the concept of "going direct" in the media and how it is perceived as an attempt by newsmakers to avoid answering tough questions, but the guest argues that it is not the case as they are willing to submit to tough questions to communicate their expertise, especially as they see the media as becoming an unreliable narrator due to bias and sloppiness.

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