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The Gruen Transfer and the Mall as Public Space
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45:05 - 47:37 (02:31)

This episode discusses how malls were initially designed to be a public space where people could talk politics, hang out and discuss things publicly until the concept of the Gruen Transfer redirected the purpose of the mall towards being a consumer space. The speaker argues that technology has not made us into laptop click junkies, but rather reshaped our social interactions in a significant way.

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