Despite the bombs and forced migrations occurring in Ukraine, many Russians refuse to believe the news, as relatives in Ukraine attempt to inform them. The misinformation campaign coming from Russia sheds light on how it affects not only Ukrainians, but Russians as well.
Ukrainian children have allegedly been taken by Russian authorities without their parent's consent, sometimes placed in Russian families and given up for adoption, with some being orphans, and others having relatives or family ready to take them back in Ukraine. Many of these children were taken from group homes, orphanages, or institutions that care for children who are not necessarily orphans.
This transcript highlights that complete denial of what's happening in Ukraine is pretty common in Russia due to the years of clamping down on free press and escalating rhetoric in media. It also suggests that people are interpreting events through their own nationalistic and pro-state filters.
The Ukrainians marked civilian centers with something on the ground, such as a school filled with children, for easy identification from the air. These centers were often attacked by the Russian military, which could break the Ukrainian people's passionate drive to defend their country.
Joe Rogan and his guest briefly discuss the Russia and Ukraine situation, expressing concern regarding the war rhetoric surrounding it. They also criticize the lack of consideration given to the perspective of other countries in American media.
The speaker expresses his understanding of the definition of "liberation" and how it differs from military conquests, referring to an incident in Ukraine as an example.