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A Nuanced Conversation About COVID Vaccines (Yes, Really!)
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1:17:29
Published: Wed Jan 11 2023
Description

It’s 2023 and we’re coming in hot with a conversation about COVID vaccines! We’re joined by Dr. Gregory A. Poland (director of Mayo Clinic’s Vaccine Research Group), Dr. Saad Omer (director of the Yale Institute for Global Health), and Zeynep Tufekci (professor at Columbia University), who bring something that’s often lacking from these conversations: nuance. We talk through why many non-crazy people are hesitant to get vaccinated, how our public health institutions have failed to communicate effectively with the masses, and why it should be perfectly okay to ask questions about the risks and benefits of any vaccine. Plus, writers Tocarra Mallard and Kasaun Wilson bring us up to speed on the latest Harry and Meghan drama. Season 2 is now streaming on Apple TV+.CREDITS
Hosted by: Jon Stewart Featuring, in order of appearance: Kasaun Wilson, Tocarra Mallard, Gregory A. Poland, Saad Omer, Zeynep Tufekci Executive Produced by Jon Stewart, Brinda Adhikari, James Dixon, Chris McShane, and Richard Plepler.Lead Producer: Sophie EricksonProducers: Zach Goldbaum, Caity GrayAssoc. Producer: Andrea Betanzos Sound Engineer: Miguel CarrascalSenior Digital Producer: Freddie MorganDigital Producer: Cassie MurdochDigital Coordinator: Norma HernandezSupervising Producer: Lorrie BaranekHead Writer: Kris AcimovicElements Producer: Kenneth HullClearances Producer: Daniella PhilipsonSenior Talent Producer: Brittany MehmedovicTalent Manager: Marjorie McCurryTalent Coordinator: Lukas ThimmSenior Research Producer: Susan Helvenston Theme Music by: Gary Clark Jr.The Problem With Jon Stewart podcast is an Apple TV+ podcast, produced by Busboy Productions. https://apple.co/-JonStewart

Chapters
In the first episode of The Problem with Jon Stewart for 2022, the topic discussed is vaccine safety, vaccine hesitancy, and vaccine misinformation, covering its existence and the consequences of believing and spreading it.
00:00 - 01:27 (01:27)
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Vaccine Misinformation
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In the first episode of The Problem with Jon Stewart for 2022, the topic discussed is vaccine safety, vaccine hesitancy, and vaccine misinformation, covering its existence and the consequences of believing and spreading it. Joining the show are Takara Mallard and Kason Wilson, the resident doctor and professor respectively.

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A Nuanced Conversation About COVID Vaccines (Yes, Really!)
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The Problem With Jon Stewart
The episode discusses the amount of misinformation found online and how the Royal Family has had to unveil things about their personal life to combat this.
01:27 - 06:04 (04:36)
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Misinformation
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The episode discusses the amount of misinformation found online and how the Royal Family has had to unveil things about their personal life to combat this. The host also shares their view of the Royal Family as actors in a period piece.

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The DeMar Hamlin case highlighted the dangers of spreading misinformation and attaching meaning to events on social media.
06:04 - 10:22 (04:18)
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DeMar Hamlin
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The DeMar Hamlin case highlighted the dangers of spreading misinformation and attaching meaning to events on social media. His family had to ask people to stop sharing the video which caused the spread of false rumors.

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The speaker discuss the memorable moments in sports that brings unity and how those moments can be coined for the positive impact of vaccination.
10:22 - 16:53 (06:30)
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Vaccine hesitancy
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The speaker discuss the memorable moments in sports that brings unity and how those moments can be coined for the positive impact of vaccination. The speaker also highlights that the percentage of anti-vaccine people is low but those who work closely with vaccines do respect people that ask questions.

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The Problem With Jon Stewart
This episode discusses the growing movement of vaccine skepticism despite the importance of vaccines in preventing horrific diseases.
16:54 - 25:00 (08:05)
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vaccines
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This episode discusses the growing movement of vaccine skepticism despite the importance of vaccines in preventing horrific diseases.

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The Problem With Jon Stewart
The lack of clear and concise messaging on Covid-19 guidance caused confusion and mistrust among the public.
25:00 - 33:12 (08:12)
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Covid-19
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The lack of clear and concise messaging on Covid-19 guidance caused confusion and mistrust among the public. Inconsistent information provided by the FDA and government officials, in addition to controversial policies, such as delayed approval of home Covid-19 tests, contributed to the mixed messages that the public received.

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The Problem With Jon Stewart
The credibility of vaccine discourse depends on having diverse communicators, including those who are not directly affiliated with vaccine companies, to ensure the overall credibility is maintained.
33:12 - 41:25 (08:13)
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Vaccine discourse
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The credibility of vaccine discourse depends on having diverse communicators, including those who are not directly affiliated with vaccine companies, to ensure the overall credibility is maintained. However, some level of engagement with vaccine companies is still necessary for credibility and to ensure quality and robustness in the science.

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The Problem With Jon Stewart
The conversation around vaccines and public health needs to include a diverse range of experts, including cultural anthropologists, sociologists, psychologists, and linguists to address and understand the cognitive biases and deeper-rooted issues that affect people's lives and decision-making.
41:25 - 48:21 (06:55)
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Public Health
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The conversation around vaccines and public health needs to include a diverse range of experts, including cultural anthropologists, sociologists, psychologists, and linguists to address and understand the cognitive biases and deeper-rooted issues that affect people's lives and decision-making.

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The communication of scientific information to the public regarding the nature of different COVID-19 variants has been difficult for institutions of science, and a better linkage is needed.
48:21 - 53:51 (05:29)
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Science Communication
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The communication of scientific information to the public regarding the nature of different COVID-19 variants has been difficult for institutions of science, and a better linkage is needed. Empowering individuals one by one is not feasible, and institutions need to prioritize serving the public better, especially the front-line workers on the pandemic's front lines.

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The COVID-19 pandemic was exacerbated by scientific shortcomings such as not paying attention to genomic surveillance and broader isolation guidance.
53:51 - 58:30 (04:38)
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COVID-19
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The COVID-19 pandemic was exacerbated by scientific shortcomings such as not paying attention to genomic surveillance and broader isolation guidance. However, Denmark demonstrated that effective response is possible with functioning institutions.

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While the death rates from COVID-19 are declining, thousands of people still die each week due to the pandemic.
58:30 - 1:02:28 (03:58)
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COVID-19
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While the death rates from COVID-19 are declining, thousands of people still die each week due to the pandemic. Countries like Singapore have shown that while they too have faced the Omicron variant, their low hospitalization and death rates indicate that there is hope for tackling the pandemic's true casualties.

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Proposal to allocate funding for researching and combatting long COVID using the Defense Department budget in the same way other viruses have been addressed in the past, and highlighting the need to address the different types of long COVID symptoms.
1:02:28 - 1:07:05 (04:36)
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Long COVID
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Proposal to allocate funding for researching and combatting long COVID using the Defense Department budget in the same way other viruses have been addressed in the past, and highlighting the need to address the different types of long COVID symptoms.

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Podcast hosts discuss the importance of building trust through asking questions and humility in crisis management situations.
1:07:05 - 1:10:50 (03:45)
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Crisis Management
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Podcast hosts discuss the importance of building trust through asking questions and humility in crisis management situations. Additionally, the lack of humility in decision-making during catastrophic events is discussed.

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The Problem With Jon Stewart
The podcast allows for deconstructing conversations that are perceived as intractable by inviting pertinent guests to discuss them thoroughly.
1:10:50 - 1:16:39 (05:48)
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Conversations
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The podcast allows for deconstructing conversations that are perceived as intractable by inviting pertinent guests to discuss them thoroughly. The circle of politics and the importance of asking questions were discussed in particular in this episode.

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In this episode of The Problem with Jon Stewart Podcast, Jon wraps up the vaccines discussion and thanks the experts for joining the show.
1:16:39 - 1:17:27 (00:47)
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The Problem with Jon Stewart
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In this episode of The Problem with Jon Stewart Podcast, Jon wraps up the vaccines discussion and thanks the experts for joining the show. He also mentions The Problem, which is now airing on Apple TV+, and signs off on the episode.

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A Nuanced Conversation About COVID Vaccines (Yes, Really!)
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