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Ayanna Howard: Human-Robot Interaction and Ethics of Safety-Critical Systems
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1:40:23
Published: Fri Jan 17 2020
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Ayanna Howard is a roboticist and professor at Georgia Tech, director of Human-Automation Systems lab, with research interests in human-robot interaction, assistive robots in the home, therapy gaming apps, and remote robotic exploration of extreme environments. This conversation is part of the Artificial Intelligence podcast. If you would like to get more information about this podcast go to https://lexfridman.com/ai or connect with @lexfridman on Twitter, LinkedIn, Facebook, Medium, or YouTube where you can watch the video versions of these conversations. If you enjoy the podcast, please rate it 5 stars on Apple Podcasts, follow on Spotify, or support it on Patreon. This episode is presented by Cash App. Download it (App Store, Google Play), use code "LexPodcast".  Here's the outline of the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. 00:00 - Introduction 02:09 - Favorite robot 05:05 - Autonomous vehicles 08:43 - Tesla Autopilot 20:03 - Ethical responsibility of safety-critical algorithms 28:11 - Bias in robotics 38:20 - AI in politics and law 40:35 - Solutions to bias in algorithms 47:44 - HAL 9000 49:57 - Memories from working at NASA 51:53 - SpotMini and Bionic Woman 54:27 - Future of robots in space 57:11 - Human-robot interaction 1:02:38 - Trust 1:09:26 - AI in education 1:15:06 - Andrew Yang, automation, and job loss 1:17:17 - Love, AI, and the movie Her 1:25:01 - Why do so many robotics companies fail? 1:32:22 - Fear of robots 1:34:17 - Existential threats of AI 1:35:57 - Matrix 1:37:37 - Hang out for a day with a robot

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The podcast host interviews a roboticist and professor from Georgia Tech, discussing her research interests in human-robot interaction and assistive robots, among others.
00:00 - 03:00 (03:00)
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Robotics
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The podcast host interviews a roboticist and professor from Georgia Tech, discussing her research interests in human-robot interaction and assistive robots, among others. The episode includes an ad for Cash App, offering a $10 reward for new users and a donation to the charity FIRST.

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Ayanna Howard: Human-Robot Interaction and Ethics of Safety-Critical Systems
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By aiming for perfection and strictly following rules, we may be limiting the potential of self-driving cars, particularly in environments with human drivers or pedestrians.
03:00 - 11:17 (08:17)
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Self-Driving Cars
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By aiming for perfection and strictly following rules, we may be limiting the potential of self-driving cars, particularly in environments with human drivers or pedestrians. It is important to consider the context in which these cars operate and aim for more adaptable and fluid systems.

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The efficiency of robotics in decision making is undeniable yet the human judgement should still play a role in trusting these machines.
11:17 - 17:42 (06:25)
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Robotics
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The efficiency of robotics in decision making is undeniable yet the human judgement should still play a role in trusting these machines. Factors such as group behavior of pedestrians and the environment play a role in decision making.

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Ayanna Howard: Human-Robot Interaction and Ethics of Safety-Critical Systems
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The developers of robotic algorithms may be held responsible for any harm caused by the algorithm.
17:42 - 24:40 (06:57)
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Robotics
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The developers of robotic algorithms may be held responsible for any harm caused by the algorithm. As more cities design themselves around self-driving cars, the role of developers will become increasingly important in ensuring the safety of those living in the city.

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Ayanna Howard: Human-Robot Interaction and Ethics of Safety-Critical Systems
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Historically, the healthcare domain has had biases primarily based on gender and ethnicity, and the burden of responsibility often feels like a heavy weight for medical professionals.
24:40 - 33:05 (08:24)
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Healthcare
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Historically, the healthcare domain has had biases primarily based on gender and ethnicity, and the burden of responsibility often feels like a heavy weight for medical professionals. While there is a desire to do good and make the best decisions for patients, the lack of appropriate tools can make it feel like a burden.

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The idea of having an AI as a president is not universally accepted, but it can be used as an advisor.
33:05 - 40:27 (07:22)
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AI
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The idea of having an AI as a president is not universally accepted, but it can be used as an advisor. Some people believe that while AI has the potential to be a great tool for mankind, we should also remember that it should not take over human leadership positions.

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The accessibility of data means that there is a plethora of untapped research avenues, however ethical concerns still arise, meaning there is still room to find and patch potential ethics loopholes in big data.
40:28 - 47:11 (06:43)
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Big Data
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The accessibility of data means that there is a plethora of untapped research avenues, however ethical concerns still arise, meaning there is still room to find and patch potential ethics loopholes in big data.

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The role of human interaction in robotics and the ethics behind HAL 9000's decision to prioritize the mission over the lives of the astronauts.
47:12 - 52:58 (05:45)
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Robotics
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The role of human interaction in robotics and the ethics behind HAL 9000's decision to prioritize the mission over the lives of the astronauts.

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This transcript features a discussion about human-like interactions in relation to dogs and other animals.
52:58 - 57:03 (04:05)
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Animal Interactions
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This transcript features a discussion about human-like interactions in relation to dogs and other animals.

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Ayanna Howard: Human-Robot Interaction and Ethics of Safety-Critical Systems
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The cognitive science and psychology literature offer a lot of insight into human perception, developmental milestones, and human-human relationships that can be valuable when designing robots for interaction with humans.
57:03 - 1:02:14 (05:11)
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Robotics
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The cognitive science and psychology literature offer a lot of insight into human perception, developmental milestones, and human-human relationships that can be valuable when designing robots for interaction with humans. Understanding whether human-robot relationships match human-human is crucial when creating effective interactions between robots and humans.

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Ayanna Howard: Human-Robot Interaction and Ethics of Safety-Critical Systems
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Exploring the importance of trust in the human-robot interaction space, and how it relies on the behavior and actions of both the human and the technology.
1:02:15 - 1:11:43 (09:28)
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Robotics
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Exploring the importance of trust in the human-robot interaction space, and how it relies on the behavior and actions of both the human and the technology.

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Ayanna Howard: Human-Robot Interaction and Ethics of Safety-Critical Systems
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This podcast discusses the idea of close relationships and love as a mutual manipulation and the importance of personalization with a group rather than individuals.
1:11:43 - 1:18:57 (07:14)
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Love
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This podcast discusses the idea of close relationships and love as a mutual manipulation and the importance of personalization with a group rather than individuals.

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Ayanna Howard: Human-Robot Interaction and Ethics of Safety-Critical Systems
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The concept of human-robot interaction raises questions about how robots should be categorized, and whether emotions and human-like imperfections should factor into how they are treated.
1:18:57 - 1:25:37 (06:39)
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Robotics
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The concept of human-robot interaction raises questions about how robots should be categorized, and whether emotions and human-like imperfections should factor into how they are treated. This examination may lead to a better understanding of how to design robots with the capacity for compelling human-robot experiences, even if it is not truly "love."

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Understanding product-market fit is essential to create a viable, profit-bearing company.
1:25:38 - 1:31:02 (05:24)
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iRobot
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Understanding product-market fit is essential to create a viable, profit-bearing company. For iRobot, maker of Roomba vacuum cleaners, finding the right price and target market is key to growth and success.

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The popular culture's fear of legged robots, such as Boston Dynamics, stems from the uncertainty of the impact of robotics on society.
1:31:02 - 1:35:27 (04:24)
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Robotics
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The popular culture's fear of legged robots, such as Boston Dynamics, stems from the uncertainty of the impact of robotics on society. As robotics becomes more prevalent in fields such as medicine and self-driving, ethical responsibility is needed to ensure their safe deployment.

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The speaker talks about the concept of a symbiotic relationship between humans and robots, where robots can help humans learn and grow in various ways.
1:35:27 - 1:39:13 (03:46)
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Robotics
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The speaker talks about the concept of a symbiotic relationship between humans and robots, where robots can help humans learn and grow in various ways.

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Ayanna Howard: Human-Robot Interaction and Ethics of Safety-Critical Systems
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1:39:13 - 1:40:00 (00:47)
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Cash App presents a podcast conversation with Lex. Listeners can earn a reward and benefit the nonprofit, First, using the code LexPodcast with the Cash App.

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