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#190 - Christopher Berry-Dee - Death Row's Worst Killers In Their Own Words
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Published: Mon Jun 29 2020
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Christopher Berry-Dee is a criminologist and a writer. Christopher has spent a career interviewing some of history’s most notorious killers including Peter Sutcliffe, Ted Bundy, Aileen Wuornos, Dennis Nilsen and more. This is his first ever podcast. Expect to learn what it feels like to look pure evil in the eye, what makes psychopaths tick, why victims fall for these killers' deadly tricks and much more.  Sponsor: Check out everything I use from The Protein Works at https://www.theproteinworks.com/modernwisdom/ (35% off everything with the code MODERN35) Extra Stuff: Buy Dead Men Talking - https://amzn.to/3ex6l0R  Get my free Ultimate Life Hacks List to 10x your daily productivity → https://chriswillx.com/lifehacks/ - Get in touch. Join the discussion with me and other like minded listeners in the episode comments on the MW YouTube Channel or message me... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/ModernWisdomPodcast Email: https://www.chriswillx.com/contact

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James Haskell interviews Christopher Berry Dee about his latest book, Dead Men Talking, which features in-depth interviews with some of the world's most notorious serial killers.
00:00 - 05:07 (05:07)
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True Crime
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James Haskell interviews Christopher Berry Dee about his latest book, Dead Men Talking, which features in-depth interviews with some of the world's most notorious serial killers. Content warning: the episode contains disturbing details about crimes such as pedophilia and murder.

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#190 - Christopher Berry-Dee - Death Row's Worst Killers In Their Own Words
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The host asks about the experience of interviewing police officers and if there is a sense of fear during the process.
05:07 - 09:04 (03:57)
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Law Enforcement
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The host asks about the experience of interviewing police officers and if there is a sense of fear during the process.

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The interviewer shares an experience where he confronted a serial killer and used a psychological trick to get him to confess, highlighting how the mind can be easily manipulated.
09:04 - 15:37 (06:32)
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Psychology
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The interviewer shares an experience where he confronted a serial killer and used a psychological trick to get him to confess, highlighting how the mind can be easily manipulated.

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#190 - Christopher Berry-Dee - Death Row's Worst Killers In Their Own Words
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Christopher was warned not to step over the yellow line in a prison as inmates throw feces and pee at people.
15:37 - 19:39 (04:02)
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Prison
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Christopher was warned not to step over the yellow line in a prison as inmates throw feces and pee at people. He observes prisoners in a row past him with garbage, Coca Cola and candy.

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#190 - Christopher Berry-Dee - Death Row's Worst Killers In Their Own Words
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The prison system has a hierarchy where death row inmates are given more respect than other prisoners.
19:40 - 23:16 (03:36)
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Prison system
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The prison system has a hierarchy where death row inmates are given more respect than other prisoners. When a death row inmate is being interviewed, the entire prison is usually locked down.

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#190 - Christopher Berry-Dee - Death Row's Worst Killers In Their Own Words
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The speaker shares some dark jokes related to criminal trials, from outrageous excuses to a satirical take on the tendency of murderers to blame bad childhoods, potty training, and other trivial reasons for their actions.
23:17 - 26:40 (03:23)
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Dark humor
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The speaker shares some dark jokes related to criminal trials, from outrageous excuses to a satirical take on the tendency of murderers to blame bad childhoods, potty training, and other trivial reasons for their actions.

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#190 - Christopher Berry-Dee - Death Row's Worst Killers In Their Own Words
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The speaker talks about how red flags often appear in cases of domestic violence, and how women are often the first to perceive them.
26:41 - 30:37 (03:55)
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Domestic Violence
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The speaker talks about how red flags often appear in cases of domestic violence, and how women are often the first to perceive them. They discuss how someone can still commit terrible crimes even while supposedly loving someone.

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#190 - Christopher Berry-Dee - Death Row's Worst Killers In Their Own Words
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The podcast host discusses the modern day obsession with serial killers and true crime, including the phenomenon of people writing to and even marrying convicted killers in prison.
30:37 - 34:47 (04:09)
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True Crime
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The podcast host discusses the modern day obsession with serial killers and true crime, including the phenomenon of people writing to and even marrying convicted killers in prison.

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#190 - Christopher Berry-Dee - Death Row's Worst Killers In Their Own Words
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The speaker discusses the phenomenon of women fawning over and sending money to incarcerated serial killers, particularly referencing Ted Bundy and Florida's Finest Chocolate.
34:47 - 38:16 (03:29)
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True Crime
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The speaker discusses the phenomenon of women fawning over and sending money to incarcerated serial killers, particularly referencing Ted Bundy and Florida's Finest Chocolate.

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#190 - Christopher Berry-Dee - Death Row's Worst Killers In Their Own Words
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A discussion on a criminal who escaped prison and was later caught for drug smuggling after his escape, and the signs that criminals overlook when committing a crime.
38:17 - 45:08 (06:50)
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Crime
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A discussion on a criminal who escaped prison and was later caught for drug smuggling after his escape, and the signs that criminals overlook when committing a crime.

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#190 - Christopher Berry-Dee - Death Row's Worst Killers In Their Own Words
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A conversation about disturbing criminal cases and the argument for capital punishment, discussing the topic of retribution versus rehabilitation.
45:08 - 49:26 (04:18)
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Criminal Justice
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A conversation about disturbing criminal cases and the argument for capital punishment, discussing the topic of retribution versus rehabilitation.

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#190 - Christopher Berry-Dee - Death Row's Worst Killers In Their Own Words
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The speaker shares a personal story about a maid asking about their religious beliefs and a lawyer who was given advice on improving his appearance for the media.
49:27 - 54:18 (04:50)
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Anecdotes
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The speaker shares a personal story about a maid asking about their religious beliefs and a lawyer who was given advice on improving his appearance for the media.

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Summarizing the depravity of sexual serial killer Peter Curtin would require looking at his place among the synonyms of "evil" and "depraved" in the thesaurus, as well as recounting his crimes and the eyewitness accounts of those who encountered him.
54:18 - 57:57 (03:39)
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True Crime
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Summarizing the depravity of sexual serial killer Peter Curtin would require looking at his place among the synonyms of "evil" and "depraved" in the thesaurus, as well as recounting his crimes and the eyewitness accounts of those who encountered him.

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Shawcross, a serial killer with a history of assaulting and murdering prostitutes, was released after serving 15 years of a 23 year sentence.
57:57 - 1:02:07 (04:09)
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Crime
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Shawcross, a serial killer with a history of assaulting and murdering prostitutes, was released after serving 15 years of a 23 year sentence. He went on to kill approximately 12 more women, demonstrating the concerning lack of proper evaluation by the parole board.

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The speaker discusses the complexity of criminals and how they can still do good things and to not presume that all criminals are easily recognizable.
1:02:07 - 1:09:30 (07:23)
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Criminal Psychology
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The speaker discusses the complexity of criminals and how they can still do good things and to not presume that all criminals are easily recognizable.

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The emotional impact of writing about true crime can be overwhelming for authors.
1:09:30 - 1:16:04 (06:34)
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True Crime
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The emotional impact of writing about true crime can be overwhelming for authors. Interviews with relatives and victims, and constant exposure to brutality can take a toll on writers.

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The speaker describes the importance of finding closure and sense of purpose in one's work and how it can bring immense value beyond monetary gains.
1:16:04 - 1:19:54 (03:50)
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Self-fulfillment
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The speaker describes the importance of finding closure and sense of purpose in one's work and how it can bring immense value beyond monetary gains.

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#190 - Christopher Berry-Dee - Death Row's Worst Killers In Their Own Words
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