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Episode

Dr. Lex Fridman: Navigating Conflict, Finding Purpose & Maintaining Drive
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2:40:03
Published: Mon Nov 28 2022
Description

My guest this episode is Lex Fridman, Ph.D., a Research Scientist at the Massachusetts Institute for Technology (MIT), an expert on artificial intelligence (AI) and robotics, and the host of the Lex Fridman Podcast. We discuss Lex’s recent trip to the heart of the Ukrainian-Russian War, geopolitics, perspectives on people living in war zones, the shared human experience, and how information is communicated and controlled. As an experienced podcaster and public educator, Dr. Fridman offers unique insights into the art of holding conversations that grow understanding, especially when they involve people with opposing viewpoints. We also discuss the peer-review process for scientific research publications and how social media and podcasts are evolving the way science and technology are communicated. We consider how to find and follow your life’s purpose, maintain ongoing motivation and implement support systems to build and sustain momentum. Our conversation also covers capitalism, masculinity, chess and cheating, Lex’s idea for an AI robotics start-up and a Q&A from audience questions solicited on social media. As one of the main inspirations for the Huberman Lab podcast, hosting Dr. Fridman for this special centennial episode was an honor and a pleasure! For the full show notes, visit hubermanlab.com. Thank you to our sponsors Athletic Greens: https://athleticgreens.com/huberman LMNT: https://drinklmnt.com/huberman Thesis: https://takethesis.com/huberman Supplements from Momentous https://www.livemomentous.com/huberman Timestamps (00:00:00) Dr. Lex Fridman (00:04:46) Sponsors: LMNT, Thesis, Momentous (00:08:28) Podcasting (00:12:11) Ukraine, Russia, War & Geopolitics (00:23:17) Conflict & Generalized Hate (00:26:23) Typical Day in Ukraine; American Military & Information Wars (00:36:56) Sponsor: AG1 (00:38:42) Deliberate Cold Exposure & Sauna; Fertility (00:46:44) Ukraine: Science, Infrastructure & Military; Zelensky (00:53:33) Firearms; Violence & Sensitization (00:57:40) MIT & Artificial Intelligence (AI), University Teaching & Pandemic (01:05:51) Publications & Peer Review, Research, Social Media (01:13:05) InsideTracker (01:14:17) Twitter & Social Media Mindset, Andrew Tate & Masculinity (01:26:05) Donald Trump & Anthony Fauci; Ideological Extremes (01:35:11) Biotechnology & Biopharma; Money & Status (01:45:08) Robotics, AI & Social Media; Start-ups (01:53:50) Motivation & Competition; Relationships (02:01:55) Jobs; A Career vs. A Calling; Robotics & Relationships (02:12:11) Chess, Poker & Cheating (02:22:25) Ideas of Lately (02:24:44) Why Lex Wears a Suit & Tie (02:27:50) Is There an AI Equivalent of Psychedelics?  (02:29:06) Hardest Jiu-Jitsu Belt to Achieve (02:32:07) Advice to Young People (02:39:29) Zero-Cost Support, YouTube Feedback, Spotify & Apple Reviews, Sponsors, Momentous Supplements, Neural Network Newsletter, Social Media Title Card Photo Credit: Mike Blabac Disclaimer

Chapters
The Lex Friedman podcast covers topics related to technology, science, mental health, geopolitics, and sport, while The Huberman Lab Podcast focuses on science-based tools for everyday life.
00:00 - 01:46 (01:46)
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Podcasts
Summary

The Lex Friedman podcast covers topics related to technology, science, mental health, geopolitics, and sport, while The Huberman Lab Podcast focuses on science-based tools for everyday life.

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Dr. Lex Fridman: Navigating Conflict, Finding Purpose & Maintaining Drive
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Huberman Lab
Lex Friedman shares incredible insights about the human experience and what is optimal for us to gain from our time on this planet, zooming out to view topics through different lenses to provide new perspectives.
01:46 - 08:30 (06:43)
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World Politics
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Lex Friedman shares incredible insights about the human experience and what is optimal for us to gain from our time on this planet, zooming out to view topics through different lenses to provide new perspectives. There is an ad for 8 Sleep, which allows users to adjust their sleeping environment for the best night's sleep, and a mention of the importance of electrolytes for brain function.

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Dr. Lex Fridman: Navigating Conflict, Finding Purpose & Maintaining Drive
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The aftermath of war is not only about fatalities, but also about the prolonged hatred and impact it has on the people, especially those who have lost loved ones.
08:30 - 18:24 (09:54)
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War
Summary

The aftermath of war is not only about fatalities, but also about the prolonged hatred and impact it has on the people, especially those who have lost loved ones. The lack of basic necessities and the destruction of infrastructure can also heavily impact a population's quality of life.

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Dr. Lex Fridman: Navigating Conflict, Finding Purpose & Maintaining Drive
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The speaker expresses their difficulty in seeing a culture torn apart by hate and reflects on how wars and the pandemic have impacted society and government control over people's actions.
18:24 - 28:11 (09:46)
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Wars, Pandemic, Government Control
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The speaker expresses their difficulty in seeing a culture torn apart by hate and reflects on how wars and the pandemic have impacted society and government control over people's actions.

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Dr. Lex Fridman: Navigating Conflict, Finding Purpose & Maintaining Drive
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The speaker shares his personal experience of getting insights about war and conflicts after spending time with people who are affected by it.
28:11 - 36:19 (08:08)
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War, Conflict
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The speaker shares his personal experience of getting insights about war and conflicts after spending time with people who are affected by it. He talks about how people on both sides actually believe that they are fighting for what is right.

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Huberman Lab
Some people break under confinement while others find richness in their isolation.
36:19 - 41:16 (04:56)
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Freedom and Risk
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Some people break under confinement while others find richness in their isolation. Embracing risk can be easier when we embrace the opportunities life is offering us at the moment.

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Dr. Lex Fridman: Navigating Conflict, Finding Purpose & Maintaining Drive
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Huberman Lab
The host discusses the requirements for building a lab, which includes the need for buildings, laboratories, robots, equipment, minus 80 freezers, incubators, money, and technicians.
41:16 - 48:35 (07:18)
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Science
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The host discusses the requirements for building a lab, which includes the need for buildings, laboratories, robots, equipment, minus 80 freezers, incubators, money, and technicians. In addition, he talks about the impact of heat on the viability of sperm and the importance of infrastructure for science.

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Dr. Lex Fridman: Navigating Conflict, Finding Purpose & Maintaining Drive
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The speaker discusses how sudden events, like an explosion or a terrorist attack, can shock people and make them question what they consider to be familiar or dangerous.
48:35 - 58:51 (10:16)
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Safety
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The speaker discusses how sudden events, like an explosion or a terrorist attack, can shock people and make them question what they consider to be familiar or dangerous. He also highlights how different cultures have varying levels of familiarity with firearms, which can lead to drastically different perceptions of safety.

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Dr. Lex Fridman: Navigating Conflict, Finding Purpose & Maintaining Drive
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The pandemic has shifted power dynamics by giving more power to administration, while taking away from the faculty and students.
58:51 - 1:06:22 (07:30)
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University Education
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The pandemic has shifted power dynamics by giving more power to administration, while taking away from the faculty and students. Remote teaching has made it difficult for university communities to flourish; however, with the return to normal, there is hope for more interactions among different majors to foster better community learning.

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Dr. Lex Fridman: Navigating Conflict, Finding Purpose & Maintaining Drive
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This podcast discusses the culture in computer science of posting on archive and pre-prints without peer review and the importance of research and the scientific process.
1:06:22 - 1:13:19 (06:57)
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Computer Science
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This podcast discusses the culture in computer science of posting on archive and pre-prints without peer review and the importance of research and the scientific process.

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Dr. Lex Fridman: Navigating Conflict, Finding Purpose & Maintaining Drive
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InsideTracker offers personalized guidance to adjust metabolic factors for optimal and immediate health through easy to understand nutritional, supplementation and behavioral interventions that can be analyzed from a quality blood test.
1:13:19 - 1:21:48 (08:28)
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Health
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InsideTracker offers personalized guidance to adjust metabolic factors for optimal and immediate health through easy to understand nutritional, supplementation and behavioral interventions that can be analyzed from a quality blood test.

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Dr. Lex Fridman: Navigating Conflict, Finding Purpose & Maintaining Drive
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The speaker disagrees with a man's disrespectful attitude towards women and believes it goes against being a good man.
1:21:48 - 1:29:40 (07:51)
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Women's Rights
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The speaker disagrees with a man's disrespectful attitude towards women and believes it goes against being a good man. She also notes that some individuals maintain their privacy as a way to protect themselves.

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Dr. Lex Fridman: Navigating Conflict, Finding Purpose & Maintaining Drive
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People are often constrained in their ability to choose what policies work best for them during the COVID-19 pandemic.
1:29:40 - 1:34:42 (05:02)
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COVID-19
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People are often constrained in their ability to choose what policies work best for them during the COVID-19 pandemic. The majority of people are in the middle of the argument, trying to navigate the situation while also acknowledging uncertainty, especially with regards to vaccines and policies implemented by the government.

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Dr. Lex Fridman: Navigating Conflict, Finding Purpose & Maintaining Drive
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The speaker reflects on his experience interviewing a controversial figure and how he realized the importance of approaching interviews and science with empathy and humility.
1:34:42 - 1:40:00 (05:17)
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Empathy and Humility
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The speaker reflects on his experience interviewing a controversial figure and how he realized the importance of approaching interviews and science with empathy and humility.

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Dr. Lex Fridman: Navigating Conflict, Finding Purpose & Maintaining Drive
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The best way to make money is by coming up with medicine that helps a lot of people, but people who have a lot of money are often held to a different standard because of resentment.
1:40:00 - 1:45:24 (05:24)
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Business and Medicine
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The best way to make money is by coming up with medicine that helps a lot of people, but people who have a lot of money are often held to a different standard because of resentment.

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Dr. Lex Fridman: Navigating Conflict, Finding Purpose & Maintaining Drive
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The conversation centers around the potential for robots to be a part of everyday life in the future, including robot-human interaction and the role of robots in the household.
1:45:24 - 1:48:34 (03:10)
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Robotics
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The conversation centers around the potential for robots to be a part of everyday life in the future, including robot-human interaction and the role of robots in the household.

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Dr. Lex Fridman: Navigating Conflict, Finding Purpose & Maintaining Drive
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Optimal trials at 85% can help with language learning, mathematics and physical pursuits.
1:48:34 - 1:57:15 (08:40)
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Learning
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Optimal trials at 85% can help with language learning, mathematics and physical pursuits. Focusing on a company and not other things helps to close the hatch on dopamine retrieval from other sources.

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Dr. Lex Fridman: Navigating Conflict, Finding Purpose & Maintaining Drive
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The decision to follow your calling or to stick with a career path comes with different levels of energetic pull as it pertains to your happiness and life satisfaction.
1:57:15 - 2:03:49 (06:34)
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Career Choices
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The decision to follow your calling or to stick with a career path comes with different levels of energetic pull as it pertains to your happiness and life satisfaction. Although there may be pressure to choose a career path, aligning with your calling may lead to greater fulfillment in life.

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Dr. Lex Fridman: Navigating Conflict, Finding Purpose & Maintaining Drive
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The speaker discusses noticing a special "magic" between two people when they first meet, and explains that this same feeling is crucial in building trust and transparent communication.
2:03:49 - 2:12:05 (08:16)
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Trust and Communication
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The speaker discusses noticing a special "magic" between two people when they first meet, and explains that this same feeling is crucial in building trust and transparent communication. They also discuss the difficulty of communicating how a company truly works on a podcast like Joe Rogan's.

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Dr. Lex Fridman: Navigating Conflict, Finding Purpose & Maintaining Drive
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In this podcast, the host discusses the unique heart of cuttlefish as well as his Instagram post soliciting questions about personal and work topics.
2:12:05 - 2:14:18 (02:12)
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Entrepreneurship
Summary

In this podcast, the host discusses the unique heart of cuttlefish as well as his Instagram post soliciting questions about personal and work topics.

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Dr. Lex Fridman: Navigating Conflict, Finding Purpose & Maintaining Drive
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The use of a tactile device for card counting in poker has been proven not to be cheating, but is stimulating the vagus nerve causing some discomfort to the person wearing it.
2:14:18 - 2:22:16 (07:57)
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Poker
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The use of a tactile device for card counting in poker has been proven not to be cheating, but is stimulating the vagus nerve causing some discomfort to the person wearing it. A neurosurgeon at Neuralink has even implanted a radio receiver in his hand to open locks of his house.

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Dr. Lex Fridman: Navigating Conflict, Finding Purpose & Maintaining Drive
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The speaker discusses feeling alone as the concept of "home" has changed for them and also touches on the growing distrust of science and how to regain trust.
2:22:16 - 2:28:08 (05:51)
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Home, Distrust of Science
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The speaker discusses feeling alone as the concept of "home" has changed for them and also touches on the growing distrust of science and how to regain trust.

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Dr. Lex Fridman: Navigating Conflict, Finding Purpose & Maintaining Drive
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The speaker reflects on the importance of hard work and sacrifice towards a goal, utilizing examples such as achieving high belts in Jiu-Jitsu and the struggles of accomplished individuals in their 20s.
2:28:08 - 2:39:49 (11:41)
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Hard work, Sacrifice
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The speaker reflects on the importance of hard work and sacrifice towards a goal, utilizing examples such as achieving high belts in Jiu-Jitsu and the struggles of accomplished individuals in their 20s. They also discuss the deeper meaning of Robert Frost's poem "Stopping by Woods on a Snowy Evening."

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Dr. Lex Fridman: Navigating Conflict, Finding Purpose & Maintaining Drive
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The Huberman Lab podcast covers topics related to improving mental and physical performance and health through science-based approaches, with a focus on neuroscience.
2:39:49 - 2:41:59 (02:10)
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Health, Performance
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The Huberman Lab podcast covers topics related to improving mental and physical performance and health through science-based approaches, with a focus on neuroscience. Although supplements were not discussed in this particular episode, they have been covered in previous episodes along with various other tools for optimizing health and performance.

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Dr. Lex Fridman: Navigating Conflict, Finding Purpose & Maintaining Drive
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Huberman Lab