Episode
E116: Toxic out-of-control trains, regulators, and AI
1:31:12
Published: Fri Feb 17 2023
Description
(0:00) Bestie intros, poker recap, charity shoutouts! (8:34) Toxic Ohio train derailment (25:30) Lina Khan's flawed strategy and rough past few weeks as FTC Chair; rewriting Section 230 (57:27) AI chatbot bias and problems: Bing Chat's strange answers, jailbreaking ChatGPT, and more DONATE: https://www.humanesociety.org/news/going-big-beagles https://www.beastphilanthropy.org/donate Follow the besties: https://twitter.com/chamath https://linktr.ee/calacanis https://twitter.com/DavidSacks https://twitter.com/friedberg Follow the pod: https://twitter.com/theallinpod https://linktr.ee/allinpodcast Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://twitter.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://twitter.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://techcrunch.com/2023/02/10/mrbeasts-blindness-video-puts-systemic-ableism-on-display https://doomberg.substack.com/p/railroaded https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2023/02/14/norfolk-southerns-ohio-train-derailment-emblematic-rail-trends/11248956002 https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2023-02-15/zantac-cancer-risk-data-was-kept-quiet-by-manufacturer-glaxo-for-40-years https://www.foxnews.com/video/6320573959112 https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-im-resigning-from-the-ftc-commissioner-ftc-lina-khan-regulation-rule-violation-antitrust-339f115d https://fedsoc.org/commentary/fedsoc-blog/gonzalez-google-and-section-230-all-on-the-same-side https://www.investopedia.com/section-230-definition-5207317 https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2023/02/14/norfolk-southerns-ohio-train-derailment-emblematic-rail-trends/11248956002 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1626097497109311495 https://chat.openai.com/chat https://twitter.com/Jason/status/1626091654120894464 https://politiquerepublic.substack.com/p/chatgpt-is-democrat-propoganda https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-35902104 https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/16/technology/bing-chatbot-microsoft-chatgpt.html https://unusualwhales.com/news/openais-chatgpt-has-reportedly-predicted-that-the-stock-market-will-crash-on-march-15-2023 https://www.history.com/news/josef-stalin-great-purge-photo-retouching https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/ec-funds-france-build-google-106934 https://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/21/technology/21iht-quaero24.html
Chapters
Podcasters Freeberg and Chamath raised a total of $450,000 for charity by playing poker live on television at the Hustler Casino in California.
00:00 - 01:10 (01:10)
Summary
Podcasters Freeberg and Chamath raised a total of $450,000 for charity by playing poker live on television at the Hustler Casino in California. Chamath raised the most with a total of $360,000 for his beef philanthropy.
EpisodeE116: Toxic out-of-control trains, regulators, and AI
PodcastAll-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
The hosts discuss a hypothetical scenario where LeBron James saves a beagle from being used for cosmetic research and consider whether or not he would donate to one of Governor DeSantis' charities.
01:10 - 03:00 (01:50)
Summary
The hosts discuss a hypothetical scenario where LeBron James saves a beagle from being used for cosmetic research and consider whether or not he would donate to one of Governor DeSantis' charities.
EpisodeE116: Toxic out-of-control trains, regulators, and AI
PodcastAll-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
This podcast discusses the controversy over whether doing good deeds should merit praise or criticism, citing examples such as paying for cataract surgery for those who cannot afford it and donating money to save dogs from torture.
03:00 - 06:08 (03:07)
Summary
This podcast discusses the controversy over whether doing good deeds should merit praise or criticism, citing examples such as paying for cataract surgery for those who cannot afford it and donating money to save dogs from torture.
EpisodeE116: Toxic out-of-control trains, regulators, and AI
PodcastAll-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
The explosion at a chemical plant in Port Neches Texas was a result of a controlled burn of vinyl chloride that released a plume of phosphine gas into the air, which is a strong chemical gas used in pesticides.
06:08 - 12:42 (06:34)
Summary
The explosion at a chemical plant in Port Neches Texas was a result of a controlled burn of vinyl chloride that released a plume of phosphine gas into the air, which is a strong chemical gas used in pesticides.
EpisodeE116: Toxic out-of-control trains, regulators, and AI
PodcastAll-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
The author speculates on the possible effects of the hydrochloric acid in the river due to a recent incident and mentions the danger of inhaling hydrochloric acid gas.
12:42 - 17:18 (04:35)
Summary
The author speculates on the possible effects of the hydrochloric acid in the river due to a recent incident and mentions the danger of inhaling hydrochloric acid gas.
EpisodeE116: Toxic out-of-control trains, regulators, and AI
PodcastAll-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
The podcast discusses the common human desire to blame and regulate in the wake of negative events, and how this can often lead to bureaucratic inefficiencies.
17:18 - 21:23 (04:05)
Summary
The podcast discusses the common human desire to blame and regulate in the wake of negative events, and how this can often lead to bureaucratic inefficiencies.
EpisodeE116: Toxic out-of-control trains, regulators, and AI
PodcastAll-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Glaxo is being questioned for covering up the presence of a cancer-causing carcinogen in the over-the-counter product Zantac that has been consumed by millions of people worldwide for 40 years.
21:23 - 25:26 (04:03)
Summary
Glaxo is being questioned for covering up the presence of a cancer-causing carcinogen in the over-the-counter product Zantac that has been consumed by millions of people worldwide for 40 years. The powerful groups of elites including corporations, media, and politicians are manipulating the audience with their agendas to hide the wrongdoings of powerful people.
EpisodeE116: Toxic out-of-control trains, regulators, and AI
PodcastAll-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
The speaker highlights the role of the government in protecting individuals' rights and ensuring that big tech companies do not discriminate against the apps of downstream developers.
25:26 - 30:09 (04:43)
Summary
The speaker highlights the role of the government in protecting individuals' rights and ensuring that big tech companies do not discriminate against the apps of downstream developers. Additionally, they mention the concern of both political parties that big tech is too powerful and has the potential to impede on individuals' rights or limit app developers' ability to create a healthy ecosystem.
EpisodeE116: Toxic out-of-control trains, regulators, and AI
PodcastAll-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
The speaker predicts that platforms like YouTube, which began with a generalized and uniform feature, will inevitably be regulated due to multiple stakeholders' interests and the challenge of controlling content.
30:09 - 38:48 (08:38)
Summary
The speaker predicts that platforms like YouTube, which began with a generalized and uniform feature, will inevitably be regulated due to multiple stakeholders' interests and the challenge of controlling content.
EpisodeE116: Toxic out-of-control trains, regulators, and AI
PodcastAll-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
The conservative media is worried that conservative content is being taken down more than usual under novel theories of harm that allege it creates harm to various communities.
38:48 - 43:44 (04:55)
Summary
The conservative media is worried that conservative content is being taken down more than usual under novel theories of harm that allege it creates harm to various communities. The potential limiting of Section 230 protection by the Supreme Court could have negative consequences and better addressed in Congress.
EpisodeE116: Toxic out-of-control trains, regulators, and AI
PodcastAll-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
The speaker argues that the liability on user-generated content platforms for everything published on their platforms seems difficult to sustain, and discusses the focus of outsourcing content moderation to business process organizations in the Philippines as part of the issue.
43:44 - 49:29 (05:45)
Summary
The speaker argues that the liability on user-generated content platforms for everything published on their platforms seems difficult to sustain, and discusses the focus of outsourcing content moderation to business process organizations in the Philippines as part of the issue.
EpisodeE116: Toxic out-of-control trains, regulators, and AI
PodcastAll-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Many conversations and issues in our society revolve around the role of the government, with people usually blaming it for issues or expecting it to solve them.
49:29 - 54:35 (05:05)
Summary
Many conversations and issues in our society revolve around the role of the government, with people usually blaming it for issues or expecting it to solve them. This raises the question of whether the government's role is overstated in our society and marketplace.
EpisodeE116: Toxic out-of-control trains, regulators, and AI
PodcastAll-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Technology's impact on politics, elections, finance, and entrepreneurship is becoming increasingly apparent.
54:35 - 1:00:15 (05:39)
Summary
Technology's impact on politics, elections, finance, and entrepreneurship is becoming increasingly apparent. While politicians are focused on addressing the challenges that come alongside these advancements, there is also an opportunity to build and invest outside of the current agenda.
EpisodeE116: Toxic out-of-control trains, regulators, and AI
PodcastAll-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
There is mounting evidence that the safety layer programmed by Open AI is biased towards one direction, similar to how Twitter's trust and safety was biased under previous management, making it difficult to implement a user filter.
1:00:15 - 1:06:45 (06:30)
Summary
There is mounting evidence that the safety layer programmed by Open AI is biased towards one direction, similar to how Twitter's trust and safety was biased under previous management, making it difficult to implement a user filter. However, it is expected that there will be competing versions of these tools in the future.
EpisodeE116: Toxic out-of-control trains, regulators, and AI
PodcastAll-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
The use of potentially biased algorithms in search engines and other platforms may lead to negative consequences for both the reputation of these platforms and the users who rely on them.
1:06:45 - 1:11:00 (04:14)
Summary
The use of potentially biased algorithms in search engines and other platforms may lead to negative consequences for both the reputation of these platforms and the users who rely on them.
EpisodeE116: Toxic out-of-control trains, regulators, and AI
PodcastAll-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
AI manifests differently based on cultural and ethical interests ultimately leading to the development of siloed media systems that deliver differing types of media.
1:11:00 - 1:17:37 (06:37)
Summary
AI manifests differently based on cultural and ethical interests ultimately leading to the development of siloed media systems that deliver differing types of media.
EpisodeE116: Toxic out-of-control trains, regulators, and AI
PodcastAll-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
The ability of AI chatbots to give different answers to different people based on prompts is a cause for concern, especially when filtering is not enough to prevent dangerous misinterpretations.
1:17:37 - 1:24:22 (06:45)
Summary
The ability of AI chatbots to give different answers to different people based on prompts is a cause for concern, especially when filtering is not enough to prevent dangerous misinterpretations. Cleverly written prompts that bypass trust and safety layers can pose a serious threat if people rely on the bot's answers to inform actions in the world.
EpisodeE116: Toxic out-of-control trains, regulators, and AI
PodcastAll-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
The US intelligence community has been collaborating with big tech companies through a tool called teleporter which raises concerns.
1:24:22 - 1:27:21 (02:58)
Summary
The US intelligence community has been collaborating with big tech companies through a tool called teleporter which raises concerns. The growing ability to run LLMs along with the monopoly of big tech companies may spark the emergence of alternative search engines in the future.
EpisodeE116: Toxic out-of-control trains, regulators, and AI
PodcastAll-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
The conversation discusses the feasibility of for-profit AI businesses raising a billion dollars in funding similar to non-profit organizations.
1:27:21 - 1:29:36 (02:15)
Summary
The conversation discusses the feasibility of for-profit AI businesses raising a billion dollars in funding similar to non-profit organizations.
EpisodeE116: Toxic out-of-control trains, regulators, and AI
PodcastAll-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
The podcast ends with congratulations to two hosts for generating over $400,000 for charity and acknowledging the need for merchandise.
1:29:36 - 1:31:17 (01:40)
Summary
The podcast ends with congratulations to two hosts for generating over $400,000 for charity and acknowledging the need for merchandise. There is also a suggestion for a group orgy among the hosts.