Episode
Excessive Use of Force: Diagnosing Our Over-Policing Problem
52:18
Published: Wed Feb 01 2023
Description
The media may have moved on from its wall-to-wall coverage of the killing of Tyre Nichols, but the nation is still hurting. This week, we’re discussing how incorrectly diagnosing the problem of police brutality has led to a system that hurts everyone. We’re joined by Heather McGhee, author and chair of the racial justice organization Color of Change, and Phillip Atiba Goff, Ph.D. Chair and Carl I. Hovland Professor of African American Studies and Professor of Psychology at Yale University. Dr. Goff is also the cofounder and CEO at Center For Policing Equity. They share their thoughts on why armed cops shouldn’t be doing minor traffic stops, how the system changes a cop from the inside out, and how investing in human infrastructure is our best solution to the ongoing problem of police brutality. Also, writers Rob Christensen and Kasaun Wilson weigh in on the sensationalization of the body cam footage and their own run-ins with the law. Season 2 is now streaming on Apple TV+. CREDITS Hosted by: Jon Stewart Featuring, in order of appearance: Heather McGhee, Phillip Atiba Goff, Kasaun Wilson, Rob ChristensenExecutive Produced by Jon Stewart, Brinda Adhikari, James Dixon, Chris McShane, and Richard PleplerLead Producer: Sophie EricksonProducers: Zach Goldbaum, Caity GrayAssoc. Producer: Andrea Betanzos Editor: Zach SilberbergEditor & Sound Engineer: Miguel CarrascalSenior Digital Producer: Freddie Morgan Digital Producer: Cassie MurdochDigital Coordinator: Norma HernandezSupervising Producer: Lorrie BaranekHead Writer: Kris AcimovicElements Producer: Kenneth HullClearances Producer: Daniella PhilipsonSenior Talent Producer: Brittany MehmedovicTalent Manager: Marjorie McCurryTalent Coordinator: Lukas ThimmSenior Research Producer: Susan Helvenston Theme Music by: Gary Clark Jr.The Problem With Jon Stewart podcast is an Apple TV+ podcast, produced by Busboy Productions.https://apple.co/-JonStewart
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EpisodeExcessive Use of Force: Diagnosing Our Over-Policing Problem
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EpisodeExcessive Use of Force: Diagnosing Our Over-Policing Problem
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