Episode

#327 – GothamChess: Hans Niemann, Magnus Carlsen, Cheating Scandal & Chess Bots
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3:38:31
Published: Fri Oct 07 2022
Description

Levy Rozman, also known as GothamChess, is a professional chess player, streamer, and educator. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: - Notion: https://notion.com - Athletic Greens: https://athleticgreens.com/lex to get 1 month of fish oil - ExpressVPN: https://expressvpn.com/lexpod to get 3 months free - InsideTracker: https://insidetracker.com/lex to get 20% off EPISODE LINKS: GothamChess's YouTube: https://youtube.com/gothamchess GothamChess's Twitch: https://twitch.tv/gothamchess GothamChess's Twitter: https://twitter.com/GothamChess GothamChess's Instagram: https://instagram.com/gothamchess GothamChess's Website: https://gotham-chess.com PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: - Check out the sponsors above, it's the best way to support this podcast - Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman - Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman - Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here's the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) - Introduction (06:14) - Elo rating (07:18) - Chess.com vs lichess.org (18:09) - Teaching chess (22:37) - Magnus Carlsen (37:52) - Greatest chess player of all time (42:35) - Hans Niemann cheating scandal (44:04) - Pin of Shame (58:12) - Bullying (1:00:04) - Indonesia incident (1:11:39) - Retiring from chess (1:18:16) - Death (1:21:58) - Streamers (1:35:34) - Hans Niemann cheating scandal continued (2:13:16) - Magnus Carlsen's statement (2:24:37) - Podcasts (2:27:04) - Parasocial interaction (2:30:53) - How to cheat in chess (2:40:39) - Reddit questions (2:47:03) - Chess boxing (2:55:49) - Chess bots (3:01:31) - AlphaZero (3:07:18) - Did Hans Niemann cheat? (3:14:34) - Chess openings (3:19:14) - Magnus Carlsen's poker game (3:21:56) - Chess advice (3:28:17) - Depression

Chapters
Notion has a powerful note-taking feature, but it also excels at team collaboration, providing an all-in-one operating system for managing any kind of task.
00:00 - 02:01 (02:01)
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Notion
Summary

Notion has a powerful note-taking feature, but it also excels at team collaboration, providing an all-in-one operating system for managing any kind of task. On the other hand, the podcast contains an ad for Athletic Greens AG1 Drink and Notion.

Episode
#327 – GothamChess: Hans Niemann, Magnus Carlsen, Cheating Scandal & Chess Bots
Podcast
Lex Fridman Podcast
The discussion covers the features of a game review service that offers detailed and sophisticated analysis and a personal health data analysis service that analyzes your blood data, fitness tracker data, and DNA data to provide advice based on machine learning algorithms.
02:01 - 09:42 (07:40)
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Game Review, Health Data Analysis
Summary

The discussion covers the features of a game review service that offers detailed and sophisticated analysis and a personal health data analysis service that analyzes your blood data, fitness tracker data, and DNA data to provide advice based on machine learning algorithms. They also talk about the role of humor in human civilization.

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#327 – GothamChess: Hans Niemann, Magnus Carlsen, Cheating Scandal & Chess Bots
Podcast
Lex Fridman Podcast
The podcast discusses the differences between Chess.com and LeeChess, noting that while they are competitors, Chess.com is viewed as more professional and structured, while LeeChess is more chaotic.
09:42 - 14:55 (05:13)
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Chess
Summary

The podcast discusses the differences between Chess.com and LeeChess, noting that while they are competitors, Chess.com is viewed as more professional and structured, while LeeChess is more chaotic.

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#327 – GothamChess: Hans Niemann, Magnus Carlsen, Cheating Scandal & Chess Bots
Podcast
Lex Fridman Podcast
The host and guest discuss common strategies for improving at chess, including emulating the playstyles of more advanced players and simplifying explanations for beginners.
14:55 - 19:08 (04:12)
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Chess
Summary

The host and guest discuss common strategies for improving at chess, including emulating the playstyles of more advanced players and simplifying explanations for beginners.

Episode
#327 – GothamChess: Hans Niemann, Magnus Carlsen, Cheating Scandal & Chess Bots
Podcast
Lex Fridman Podcast
This podcast discusses the level of intensity and focus required to compete in chess, including the development of spatial visualization skills and a strong memory for patterns.
19:08 - 24:32 (05:23)
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Chess
Summary

This podcast discusses the level of intensity and focus required to compete in chess, including the development of spatial visualization skills and a strong memory for patterns.

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#327 – GothamChess: Hans Niemann, Magnus Carlsen, Cheating Scandal & Chess Bots
Podcast
Lex Fridman Podcast
The speaker reflects on the recent World Championship, focusing on the excitement of listening to the commentators and the importance of a player's performance in the first and second half of the tournament.
24:33 - 30:55 (06:22)
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Chess
Summary

The speaker reflects on the recent World Championship, focusing on the excitement of listening to the commentators and the importance of a player's performance in the first and second half of the tournament.

Episode
#327 – GothamChess: Hans Niemann, Magnus Carlsen, Cheating Scandal & Chess Bots
Podcast
Lex Fridman Podcast
Chess players in the streaming industry can make more money than world champions, with the exciting and dramatic streaming world potentially taking over the traditional world championship.
30:55 - 37:03 (06:07)
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Chess
Summary

Chess players in the streaming industry can make more money than world champions, with the exciting and dramatic streaming world potentially taking over the traditional world championship. The balance between the two worlds is yet to be determined.

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#327 – GothamChess: Hans Niemann, Magnus Carlsen, Cheating Scandal & Chess Bots
Podcast
Lex Fridman Podcast
The FIDE rating system for over the board chess had a change where players under 16 or 18 years old with a rating below 2300 had a rating change factor that was three to four times higher, resulting in a skewed ranking system.
37:03 - 43:44 (06:41)
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FIDE rating system
Summary

The FIDE rating system for over the board chess had a change where players under 16 or 18 years old with a rating below 2300 had a rating change factor that was three to four times higher, resulting in a skewed ranking system.

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#327 – GothamChess: Hans Niemann, Magnus Carlsen, Cheating Scandal & Chess Bots
Podcast
Lex Fridman Podcast
In this podcast episode, the host discusses the importance of managing social media response to negative comments with guest, Ryan Holiday.
43:44 - 49:32 (05:48)
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Social Media
Summary

In this podcast episode, the host discusses the importance of managing social media response to negative comments with guest, Ryan Holiday. They talk about how to handle criticism and negative feedback without letting it affect your mental health or business.

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#327 – GothamChess: Hans Niemann, Magnus Carlsen, Cheating Scandal & Chess Bots
Podcast
Lex Fridman Podcast
The speaker suggests that people should have empathy for each other's mistakes and be able to introspect on their own stupid actions.
49:32 - 1:00:36 (11:03)
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Empathy
Summary

The speaker suggests that people should have empathy for each other's mistakes and be able to introspect on their own stupid actions. They propose the idea of being able to search and summarize all the stupid things said in past emails to reveal to oneself.

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#327 – GothamChess: Hans Niemann, Magnus Carlsen, Cheating Scandal & Chess Bots
Podcast
Lex Fridman Podcast
A 73-year-old viewer of chess streamer, Gotham Chess, was allegedly banned for cheating after beating the streamer which caused the streamer's community to mass report him.
1:00:36 - 1:04:30 (03:54)
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Chess
Summary

A 73-year-old viewer of chess streamer, Gotham Chess, was allegedly banned for cheating after beating the streamer which caused the streamer's community to mass report him. Chess expert, Danny Wrench, who inspected the player's account stated that the win rate and average accuracy were suspiciously high.

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#327 – GothamChess: Hans Niemann, Magnus Carlsen, Cheating Scandal & Chess Bots
Podcast
Lex Fridman Podcast
The speaker opens up about how the lack of control over the narrative can lead to misinterpreted and misconstrued information, which is difficult to handle, especially when in the public eye.
1:04:30 - 1:11:40 (07:09)
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Misinterpreted Information
Summary

The speaker opens up about how the lack of control over the narrative can lead to misinterpreted and misconstrued information, which is difficult to handle, especially when in the public eye. This is relatable not only to political figures but also to content creators like her and streamers of other fields.

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#327 – GothamChess: Hans Niemann, Magnus Carlsen, Cheating Scandal & Chess Bots
Podcast
Lex Fridman Podcast
In 2016, the speaker took a break from teaching private chess lessons to focus on becoming an international master.
1:11:40 - 1:18:50 (07:09)
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Chess
Summary

In 2016, the speaker took a break from teaching private chess lessons to focus on becoming an international master. He spent six to seven hours every day studying opening trends, analyzing games, and training.

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#327 – GothamChess: Hans Niemann, Magnus Carlsen, Cheating Scandal & Chess Bots
Podcast
Lex Fridman Podcast
The podcast host discusses the importance of embracing every moment with loved ones and experiencing life as intensely as possible, as life moves on for everyone and there will eventually be no more moments.
1:18:50 - 1:22:37 (03:47)
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Life, Emotions
Summary

The podcast host discusses the importance of embracing every moment with loved ones and experiencing life as intensely as possible, as life moves on for everyone and there will eventually be no more moments.

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#327 – GothamChess: Hans Niemann, Magnus Carlsen, Cheating Scandal & Chess Bots
Podcast
Lex Fridman Podcast
The podcasters discuss the world of Twitch streaming, highlighting both the benefits and challenges of the platform for content creators.
1:22:37 - 1:30:10 (07:33)
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Twitch streaming
Summary

The podcasters discuss the world of Twitch streaming, highlighting both the benefits and challenges of the platform for content creators.

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#327 – GothamChess: Hans Niemann, Magnus Carlsen, Cheating Scandal & Chess Bots
Podcast
Lex Fridman Podcast
The speaker shares his experience of carrying a backpack with his essentials while being grateful about his life after almost getting run over by a car.
1:30:10 - 1:35:01 (04:51)
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Lifestyle
Summary

The speaker shares his experience of carrying a backpack with his essentials while being grateful about his life after almost getting run over by a car.

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#327 – GothamChess: Hans Niemann, Magnus Carlsen, Cheating Scandal & Chess Bots
Podcast
Lex Fridman Podcast
Two chess players discuss the importance of practice and dedication when it comes to improving your skills in chess.
1:35:01 - 1:39:09 (04:07)
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Chess
Summary

Two chess players discuss the importance of practice and dedication when it comes to improving your skills in chess.

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#327 – GothamChess: Hans Niemann, Magnus Carlsen, Cheating Scandal & Chess Bots
Podcast
Lex Fridman Podcast
A young American chess player gains fame during the pandemic by streaming and talking trash, then sets his sights on winning a live tournament and achieving his final Grandmaster norm.
1:39:09 - 1:42:46 (03:36)
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Chess
Summary

A young American chess player gains fame during the pandemic by streaming and talking trash, then sets his sights on winning a live tournament and achieving his final Grandmaster norm.

Episode
#327 – GothamChess: Hans Niemann, Magnus Carlsen, Cheating Scandal & Chess Bots
Podcast
Lex Fridman Podcast
In a Miami tournament, chess player Hans Niemann, who had previously lost a match, defeated Magnus Carlsen in their best of four game, with a significant difference in skill level.
1:42:46 - 1:47:24 (04:38)
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Chess
Summary

In a Miami tournament, chess player Hans Niemann, who had previously lost a match, defeated Magnus Carlsen in their best of four game, with a significant difference in skill level. This surprising win was witnessed by only a few thousand people at the time, but has gained attention in the chess community since then.

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#327 – GothamChess: Hans Niemann, Magnus Carlsen, Cheating Scandal & Chess Bots
Podcast
Lex Fridman Podcast
A controversy surrounding anti-cheat measures in chess resurfaced with Magnus Carlsen's participation and Hans Niemann's impressive performance.
1:47:24 - 1:54:48 (07:23)
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Chess
Summary

A controversy surrounding anti-cheat measures in chess resurfaced with Magnus Carlsen's participation and Hans Niemann's impressive performance. The interview pointed out red flags and discussed the debate on the various methods of implementing anti-cheat measures.

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#327 – GothamChess: Hans Niemann, Magnus Carlsen, Cheating Scandal & Chess Bots
Podcast
Lex Fridman Podcast
Magnus Carlsen played in the Meltwater Champions Chess Tour, a 16 player tournament, but did not make it to the final round.
1:54:48 - 2:02:50 (08:02)
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Chess
Summary

Magnus Carlsen played in the Meltwater Champions Chess Tour, a 16 player tournament, but did not make it to the final round. Hans, who beat Magnus in a previous round, also gave a statement after losing in the first round.

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#327 – GothamChess: Hans Niemann, Magnus Carlsen, Cheating Scandal & Chess Bots
Podcast
Lex Fridman Podcast
The chess world is currently focused on dissecting evidence related to accusations of cheating against player Hans, while chess podcasts offer insights into the balance between life and the game.
2:02:50 - 2:06:31 (03:40)
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Chess
Summary

The chess world is currently focused on dissecting evidence related to accusations of cheating against player Hans, while chess podcasts offer insights into the balance between life and the game.

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#327 – GothamChess: Hans Niemann, Magnus Carlsen, Cheating Scandal & Chess Bots
Podcast
Lex Fridman Podcast
The podcast discusses the issue of cheating in chess, the perils of circumstantial evidence, and the potential influence of advanced chess engines.
2:06:31 - 2:12:10 (05:38)
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Chess
Summary

The podcast discusses the issue of cheating in chess, the perils of circumstantial evidence, and the potential influence of advanced chess engines. It also briefly touches upon cheating in other fields.

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#327 – GothamChess: Hans Niemann, Magnus Carlsen, Cheating Scandal & Chess Bots
Podcast
Lex Fridman Podcast
Magnus Carlsen accuses fellow chess player Hans Niemann of cheating during the 2022 Sinkfield Cup and calls for increased security measures to prevent cheating in chess.
2:12:10 - 2:17:10 (05:00)
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Chess
Summary

Magnus Carlsen accuses fellow chess player Hans Niemann of cheating during the 2022 Sinkfield Cup and calls for increased security measures to prevent cheating in chess.

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#327 – GothamChess: Hans Niemann, Magnus Carlsen, Cheating Scandal & Chess Bots
Podcast
Lex Fridman Podcast
In this podcast episode, the host talks about the power of reputation spreading and how it helped him become more recognized in the chess community.
2:17:10 - 2:26:15 (09:05)
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Chess
Summary

In this podcast episode, the host talks about the power of reputation spreading and how it helped him become more recognized in the chess community. He also talks about his admiration for Magnus, one of the greatest chess players of all time.

Episode
#327 – GothamChess: Hans Niemann, Magnus Carlsen, Cheating Scandal & Chess Bots
Podcast
Lex Fridman Podcast
Despite having limited interaction, listeners tend to view podcast creators as friends, forming a social interaction through media that makes them feel less alone.
2:26:15 - 2:30:25 (04:09)
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Podcasting
Summary

Despite having limited interaction, listeners tend to view podcast creators as friends, forming a social interaction through media that makes them feel less alone.

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#327 – GothamChess: Hans Niemann, Magnus Carlsen, Cheating Scandal & Chess Bots
Podcast
Lex Fridman Podcast
In this podcast episode, a chess YouTuber discusses the story behind the "anal beads" rumor involving Elon Musk and how he unintentionally became a part of it during a Twitch stream.
2:30:25 - 2:38:30 (08:05)
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Chess
Summary

In this podcast episode, a chess YouTuber discusses the story behind the "anal beads" rumor involving Elon Musk and how he unintentionally became a part of it during a Twitch stream. He also talks about using computer vision to cheat in chess, which became the basis for the rumor.

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#327 – GothamChess: Hans Niemann, Magnus Carlsen, Cheating Scandal & Chess Bots
Podcast
Lex Fridman Podcast
The chest subreddit denies cheating with anal beads, which caused a huge buzz on Reddit and international news, even though the average age on Reddit is lower than the chest subreddit.
2:38:30 - 2:41:49 (03:19)
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Reddit
Summary

The chest subreddit denies cheating with anal beads, which caused a huge buzz on Reddit and international news, even though the average age on Reddit is lower than the chest subreddit.

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#327 – GothamChess: Hans Niemann, Magnus Carlsen, Cheating Scandal & Chess Bots
Podcast
Lex Fridman Podcast
The speaker discusses the difficulty of determining what makes a good tutorial video and emphasizes the importance of following trustworthy creators.
2:41:49 - 2:46:59 (05:10)
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Online Education
Summary

The speaker discusses the difficulty of determining what makes a good tutorial video and emphasizes the importance of following trustworthy creators. They also express the desire to find the best online educators.

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#327 – GothamChess: Hans Niemann, Magnus Carlsen, Cheating Scandal & Chess Bots
Podcast
Lex Fridman Podcast
The speaker talks about the concept of chess boxing, a combination of boxing and chess, and shares his personal experience with it.
2:46:59 - 2:50:57 (03:57)
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Chess Boxing
Summary

The speaker talks about the concept of chess boxing, a combination of boxing and chess, and shares his personal experience with it. He also discusses the possibility of trying it out for himself.

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#327 – GothamChess: Hans Niemann, Magnus Carlsen, Cheating Scandal & Chess Bots
Podcast
Lex Fridman Podcast
Hikaru Nakamura discusses his thoughts on the potential boxing match against Eric Rosen and the impact that taking combat sports seriously can have on a person.
2:50:57 - 2:54:31 (03:33)
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Combat sports
Summary

Hikaru Nakamura discusses his thoughts on the potential boxing match against Eric Rosen and the impact that taking combat sports seriously can have on a person.

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#327 – GothamChess: Hans Niemann, Magnus Carlsen, Cheating Scandal & Chess Bots
Podcast
Lex Fridman Podcast
In this episode, the discussion centers around chess playing bots and the differences in how they play versus humans.
2:54:31 - 3:02:20 (07:48)
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Chess
Summary

In this episode, the discussion centers around chess playing bots and the differences in how they play versus humans. The guest also speaks about his experience building an infinite chess board and the physical toll it took on his hands.

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#327 – GothamChess: Hans Niemann, Magnus Carlsen, Cheating Scandal & Chess Bots
Podcast
Lex Fridman Podcast
This episode discusses the idea of computer moves in chess - how they differ from moves played by humans and the advantages they offer.
3:02:20 - 3:10:54 (08:34)
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Chess
Summary

This episode discusses the idea of computer moves in chess - how they differ from moves played by humans and the advantages they offer. They also touch upon the concept of "dumb moves" and "brilliant moves" and how it's not always easy to differentiate between them.

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#327 – GothamChess: Hans Niemann, Magnus Carlsen, Cheating Scandal & Chess Bots
Podcast
Lex Fridman Podcast
Theoretically, an AI engine should be able to beat a gambit in chess.
3:10:54 - 3:15:47 (04:53)
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Chess
Summary

Theoretically, an AI engine should be able to beat a gambit in chess. The game has been played by many people, and nations have fought wars over it, yet it remains a game.

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#327 – GothamChess: Hans Niemann, Magnus Carlsen, Cheating Scandal & Chess Bots
Podcast
Lex Fridman Podcast
In this episode, Wesley So's self-critical nature and his drive to constantly improve is discussed, as well as his love for chess and poker.
3:15:47 - 3:21:13 (05:25)
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Wesley So
Summary

In this episode, Wesley So's self-critical nature and his drive to constantly improve is discussed, as well as his love for chess and poker.

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#327 – GothamChess: Hans Niemann, Magnus Carlsen, Cheating Scandal & Chess Bots
Podcast
Lex Fridman Podcast
Learning the art of grappling involves not just physical strength but also mental strength and the ability to relax your mind and body to master the game.
3:21:13 - 3:27:27 (06:14)
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Grappling sport
Summary

Learning the art of grappling involves not just physical strength but also mental strength and the ability to relax your mind and body to master the game. However, many people overlook this aspect and only focus on the goal of competing at a professional level such as in the UFC.

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#327 – GothamChess: Hans Niemann, Magnus Carlsen, Cheating Scandal & Chess Bots
Podcast
Lex Fridman Podcast
The speaker recounts their experience of living in a traumatic household situation at the age of 16 and feeling like a prisoner while confiding in their grandmother to cope.
3:27:27 - 3:31:50 (04:22)
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Trauma
Summary

The speaker recounts their experience of living in a traumatic household situation at the age of 16 and feeling like a prisoner while confiding in their grandmother to cope.

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#327 – GothamChess: Hans Niemann, Magnus Carlsen, Cheating Scandal & Chess Bots
Podcast
Lex Fridman Podcast
The speaker shares his experience dealing with anxiety and how he copes with it by putting himself in annoying and quiet situations like going to coffee shops or staying in Malibu to find peace.
3:31:50 - 3:36:31 (04:40)
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Anxiety
Summary

The speaker shares his experience dealing with anxiety and how he copes with it by putting himself in annoying and quiet situations like going to coffee shops or staying in Malibu to find peace.

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#327 – GothamChess: Hans Niemann, Magnus Carlsen, Cheating Scandal & Chess Bots
Podcast
Lex Fridman Podcast
A chess player reflects on how people often put on personas on social media, and how they use highlights or lowlights to be dramatic.
3:36:31 - 3:37:59 (01:28)
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Social media
Summary

A chess player reflects on how people often put on personas on social media, and how they use highlights or lowlights to be dramatic. He shares how he talks about his life on his show, but does not put much emphasis on viewers on stream as he's fully invested in YouTube.

Episode
#327 – GothamChess: Hans Niemann, Magnus Carlsen, Cheating Scandal & Chess Bots
Podcast
Lex Fridman Podcast