Episode
Jan. 6, Part 2: Liz Cheney’s Battle Against the 'Big Lie'
Description
This episode contains strong language. In the aftermath of the 2020 election, Representative Liz Cheney of Wyoming was the only Republican leader calling on President Donald Trump to move on from his efforts to overturn the results. Then, after the storming of the Capitol on Jan. 6, she gave a full-throated condemnation of what had happened and the rhetoric that facilitated it. A year later, while many of her party have backed down from criticizing the former president, she has remained steadfast — a conviction that’s cost her leadership position.In the second part of our look at the legacy of the Capitol riot, we speak to Ms. Cheney about that day and its aftermath, the work of the Jan. 6 commission and the future of the Republican Party. Guest: Representative Liz Cheney, Republican of Wyoming and former No. 3 Republican in the House of Representatives. Sign up here to get The Daily in your inbox each morning. And for an exclusive look at how the biggest stories on our show come together, subscribe to our newsletter. Background reading: The Jan. 6, 2021, assault has shaken the foundations of the Capitol, a symbol of American strength and unity, transforming how lawmakers view their surroundings and one another.A year after the Capitol riot, Donald Trump’s continued hold on the Republican Party shows, once again, that the former president can outlast almost any outrage cycle.For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday.
Chapters
A Congresswoman recounts her experience during the Capitol Hill insurrection, including a conversation about the security implications of being mentioned by the President and an encounter with Jim Jordan, who had been coordinating with the White House to prevent the election from being certified.
00:00 - 05:53 (05:53)
Summary
A Congresswoman recounts her experience during the Capitol Hill insurrection, including a conversation about the security implications of being mentioned by the President and an encounter with Jim Jordan, who had been coordinating with the White House to prevent the election from being certified.
EpisodeJan. 6, Part 2: Liz Cheney’s Battle Against the 'Big Lie'
PodcastThe Daily
A discussion about the Republican Party's loss of courage to deal with the truth and danger of what happened at the Capitol attack, as well as their disagreement on impeaching the President.
05:53 - 11:00 (05:07)
Summary
A discussion about the Republican Party's loss of courage to deal with the truth and danger of what happened at the Capitol attack, as well as their disagreement on impeaching the President.
EpisodeJan. 6, Part 2: Liz Cheney’s Battle Against the 'Big Lie'
PodcastThe Daily
Republican leadership discusses moving forward, but acknowledging that embracing Trump is going to be an inevitable part of their future.
11:00 - 21:41 (10:40)
Summary
Republican leadership discusses moving forward, but acknowledging that embracing Trump is going to be an inevitable part of their future.
EpisodeJan. 6, Part 2: Liz Cheney’s Battle Against the 'Big Lie'
PodcastThe Daily
Congressman Adam Kinzinger expresses his concern over his colleagues spreading false information and explains how his own party’s handling of Trump’s misconduct led to his involvement with the Democrats’ efforts towards accountability.
21:42 - 32:10 (10:27)
Summary
Congressman Adam Kinzinger expresses his concern over his colleagues spreading false information and explains how his own party’s handling of Trump’s misconduct led to his involvement with the Democrats’ efforts towards accountability.
EpisodeJan. 6, Part 2: Liz Cheney’s Battle Against the 'Big Lie'
PodcastThe Daily
Senator Mitt Romney discusses the Republican Party's continued insistence on the "big lie" that the election was stolen from President Trump, and the efforts of the committee investigating the January 6th insurrection.
32:10 - 38:51 (06:41)
Summary
Senator Mitt Romney discusses the Republican Party's continued insistence on the "big lie" that the election was stolen from President Trump, and the efforts of the committee investigating the January 6th insurrection. Romney highlights the danger of colleagues placating and enabling President Trump's behavior.
EpisodeJan. 6, Part 2: Liz Cheney’s Battle Against the 'Big Lie'
PodcastThe Daily
The GOP is finding itself trapped in a cycle of fear, as it struggles to challenge its own voters' belief in the 'election stolen' narrative.
38:51 - 46:33 (07:42)
Summary
The GOP is finding itself trapped in a cycle of fear, as it struggles to challenge its own voters' belief in the 'election stolen' narrative. Breaking free from this cycle requires individual Americans to support elected officials who will stand up against the lie and uphold the Constitution.