Episode
#329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT
3:09:50
Published: Sat Oct 15 2022
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Kate Darling is a researcher at MIT Media Lab interested in human robot interaction and robot ethics. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: - True Classic Tees: https://trueclassictees.com/lex and use code LEX to get 25% off - Shopify: https://shopify.com/lex to get 14-day free trial - Linode: https://linode.com/lex to get $100 free credit - InsideTracker: https://insidetracker.com/lex to get 20% off - ExpressVPN: https://expressvpn.com/lexpod to get 3 months free EPISODE LINKS: Kate's Twitter: http://twitter.com/grok_ Kate's Website: http://katedarling.org Kate's Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/grok_ The New Breed (book): https://amzn.to/3ExhBuf Creativity without Law (book): https://amzn.to/3MqV5F3 LuLaRobot (paper): http://drive.google.com/file/d/1PtYpkDQaQVPbhQIc6wcCC50JKWVsDo3k/view PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: - Check out the sponsors above, it's the best way to support this podcast - Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman - Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman - Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here's the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) - Introduction (07:57) - What is a robot? (23:57) - Metaverse (33:19) - Bias in robots (47:02) - Modern robotics (49:34) - Automation (53:57) - Autonomous driving (1:02:22) - Privacy (1:05:48) - Google's LaMDA (1:10:35) - Robot animal analogy (1:23:38) - Data concerns (1:41:40) - Humanoid robots (2:00:42) - LuLaRobot (2:09:36) - Ethics in robotics (2:24:57) - Jeffrey Epstein (2:58:31) - Love and relationships
Chapters
Kate Darling, a research scientist at MIT Media Lab, and author of "The New Breed" discusses human-robot interaction and robot ethics.
00:00 - 01:48 (01:48)
Summary
Kate Darling, a research scientist at MIT Media Lab, and author of "The New Breed" discusses human-robot interaction and robot ethics. She also reflects on the lessons learned from the Jeffrey Epstein scandal at MIT and our optimistic vision for the future of the university.
Episode#329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
In this podcast, the host promotes InsideTracker, a service that tracks biological and biological health, and True Classic Tee, a comfortable t-shirt company with an exclusive discount code.
01:48 - 08:15 (06:27)
Summary
In this podcast, the host promotes InsideTracker, a service that tracks biological and biological health, and True Classic Tee, a comfortable t-shirt company with an exclusive discount code.
Episode#329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The biggest problems in robotics lie in social aspects, interacting with humans, perception, interpretation of the world, and the brain part.
08:15 - 17:16 (09:00)
Summary
The biggest problems in robotics lie in social aspects, interacting with humans, perception, interpretation of the world, and the brain part. People need to relate to robots, but they don't necessarily have to look or act human-like.
Episode#329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The potential of the Metaverse and the legacy of Clippy, Microsoft’s virtual assistant from the 1990s, in terms of human-computer interaction theory.
17:16 - 26:17 (09:00)
Summary
The potential of the Metaverse and the legacy of Clippy, Microsoft’s virtual assistant from the 1990s, in terms of human-computer interaction theory.
Episode#329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The podcast explores the significance of creativity and risks in developing better human connections and advanced social robotics that do not rely on humanoid appearances or biases.
26:17 - 33:39 (07:22)
Summary
The podcast explores the significance of creativity and risks in developing better human connections and advanced social robotics that do not rely on humanoid appearances or biases. It also highlights the negative impact of cancel culture on the creative process.
Episode#329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
A discussion about the gendering of robots and the importance of considering the future of social agents in the home when designing them.
33:39 - 39:40 (06:00)
Summary
A discussion about the gendering of robots and the importance of considering the future of social agents in the home when designing them.
Episode#329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The speaker talks about working with robot dogs and quadrupeds and the difficulty of having a passively functioning robot while explaining the labor of love that went into creating videos of these robots.
39:40 - 44:26 (04:46)
Summary
The speaker talks about working with robot dogs and quadrupeds and the difficulty of having a passively functioning robot while explaining the labor of love that went into creating videos of these robots.
Episode#329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The increasing use of robotics in the workplace, particularly in Amazon warehouses and industrial spaces, has prompted discussions about the future of certain jobs.
44:26 - 53:08 (08:42)
Summary
The increasing use of robotics in the workplace, particularly in Amazon warehouses and industrial spaces, has prompted discussions about the future of certain jobs. Although some jobs may be automated, the introduction of robots does not necessarily result in job loss but rather the creation of new jobs, including the rise of cobotics in which robots and humans can work together safely.
Episode#329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The challenge for self-driving cars is not in predictable situations, in which they can react faster and more precisely than humans, but in unexpected and common sense reasoning scenarios.
53:08 - 59:53 (06:44)
Summary
The challenge for self-driving cars is not in predictable situations, in which they can react faster and more precisely than humans, but in unexpected and common sense reasoning scenarios. Waymo has driverless cars in Arizona, but they still have difficulty in beating the records of just one death per 80 million miles one car accident.
Episode#329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The safety measures for autonomous cars include a map showing what the car can see and the ability to stop and wait for help, but there may be risks involved in relying solely on technology.
59:53 - 1:03:22 (03:29)
Summary
The safety measures for autonomous cars include a map showing what the car can see and the ability to stop and wait for help, but there may be risks involved in relying solely on technology.
Episode#329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The development of AI that can mimic human-like feelings and consciousness will have a significant impact on privacy and data security, potentially enabling manipulation of consumers without their knowledge or consent.
1:03:22 - 1:07:59 (04:37)
Summary
The development of AI that can mimic human-like feelings and consciousness will have a significant impact on privacy and data security, potentially enabling manipulation of consumers without their knowledge or consent.
Episode#329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The speaker emphasizes the importance of looking at the history of animals and their interactions with humans when thinking about the future of AI and robotics, as animals have been utilized in a multitude of ways and can provide insight into the design and integration of these technologies into society.
1:07:59 - 1:12:48 (04:49)
Summary
The speaker emphasizes the importance of looking at the history of animals and their interactions with humans when thinking about the future of AI and robotics, as animals have been utilized in a multitude of ways and can provide insight into the design and integration of these technologies into society.
Episode#329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
This podcast discusses the limitations of relying solely on robots and the continued importance of animals in society, both in utilitarian and social contexts such as military dolphins and pets.
1:12:48 - 1:18:19 (05:30)
Summary
This podcast discusses the limitations of relying solely on robots and the continued importance of animals in society, both in utilitarian and social contexts such as military dolphins and pets.
Episode#329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
Social robots have the capacity to capture the magic of connection in the same way pets and children do, and hold a lot of possibility for creating cool interactions and connections between people.
1:18:19 - 1:22:58 (04:38)
Summary
Social robots have the capacity to capture the magic of connection in the same way pets and children do, and hold a lot of possibility for creating cool interactions and connections between people.
Episode#329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The speaker discusses the potential benefits of allowing companies to collect personal data in order to create a deeper, more meaningful connection with their consumers.
1:22:58 - 1:32:48 (09:50)
Summary
The speaker discusses the potential benefits of allowing companies to collect personal data in order to create a deeper, more meaningful connection with their consumers.
Episode#329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
As the use of robots in marketing and advertising becomes more prevalent, questions arise as to how transparency and ethics can be maintained in these interactions.
1:32:48 - 1:41:11 (08:23)
Summary
As the use of robots in marketing and advertising becomes more prevalent, questions arise as to how transparency and ethics can be maintained in these interactions. While some children express confusion about the role of robots in marketing, it is clear that transparency is necessary to ensure ethical interactions between humans and robots.
Episode#329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The infrastructure for computer vision and manipulation tasks in autonomous driving can be used for building humanoid robots for factory tasks.
1:41:11 - 1:49:03 (07:51)
Summary
The infrastructure for computer vision and manipulation tasks in autonomous driving can be used for building humanoid robots for factory tasks. The goal is to create a system that is cheap, but not crappy.
Episode#329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The development of humanoid robots for warehouse applications has the potential for other uses outside of their intended setting, which is not being fully explored.
1:49:03 - 1:55:55 (06:52)
Summary
The development of humanoid robots for warehouse applications has the potential for other uses outside of their intended setting, which is not being fully explored. While current robots such as Quadruped and Atlas are being developed for tasks such as picking up and moving boxes, a social robot could emerge from the collaboration aspect of human-robot interaction.
Episode#329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The speaker is excited about exploring other parts of the universe and believes that researching humanoid robots can contribute to learning more about how nature works.
1:55:55 - 2:01:41 (05:45)
Summary
The speaker is excited about exploring other parts of the universe and believes that researching humanoid robots can contribute to learning more about how nature works. While there are other challenges and problems to solve, they believe that we should be exploring all fields of science simultaneously.
Episode#329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The immersive nature of virtual reality and its capability to mimic suffering can potentially increase empathy in individuals.
2:01:41 - 2:09:18 (07:36)
Summary
The immersive nature of virtual reality and its capability to mimic suffering can potentially increase empathy in individuals. However, the use of virtual objects also raises questions on embodiment and the boundaries between reality and virtuality.
Episode#329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
Researchers consider the increasing emotional attachment to AI agents an ethical issue that impacts people, and they are looking for ways to deal with the fact that robots "die".
2:09:18 - 2:14:43 (05:25)
Summary
Researchers consider the increasing emotional attachment to AI agents an ethical issue that impacts people, and they are looking for ways to deal with the fact that robots "die". Moreover, the increasing demand for AI companions could lead to higher prices, just like with marriage and divorce.
Episode#329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The debate around how AI should factor in individual word choices is long and complicated, but it starts with addressing the nuances of language.
2:14:43 - 2:22:36 (07:53)
Summary
The debate around how AI should factor in individual word choices is long and complicated, but it starts with addressing the nuances of language.
Episode#329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The speaker delves into the networks and various individuals who enabled Jeffrey Epstein's crimes of sexual exploitation and underage sex trafficking, including how he managed to gain the trust of powerful people despite having a criminal record.
2:22:36 - 2:37:06 (14:30)
Summary
The speaker delves into the networks and various individuals who enabled Jeffrey Epstein's crimes of sexual exploitation and underage sex trafficking, including how he managed to gain the trust of powerful people despite having a criminal record. They also discuss the responsibility of institutions and individuals in preventing similar situations from happening again in the future.
Episode#329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
This podcast discusses the unconventional behavior of Richard Stallman, founder of the Free Software Foundation, and the importance of accepting people's differences.
2:37:06 - 2:44:12 (07:05)
Summary
This podcast discusses the unconventional behavior of Richard Stallman, founder of the Free Software Foundation, and the importance of accepting people's differences.
Episode#329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The speaker highlights that people who have interacted with bad people may feel like their ethical grounds have been shaken, but most people are trying to do their best.
2:44:12 - 2:50:34 (06:21)
Summary
The speaker highlights that people who have interacted with bad people may feel like their ethical grounds have been shaken, but most people are trying to do their best. The speaker also shares a personal experience of reporting her supervisor after he made inappropriate advances towards her.
Episode#329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
Reflecting on inappropriate behavior and owning mistakes can lead to growth, even in cases like the Stallman controversy.
2:50:34 - 3:01:40 (11:06)
Summary
Reflecting on inappropriate behavior and owning mistakes can lead to growth, even in cases like the Stallman controversy. Additionally, humor and lighthearted teasing can lead to healthy relationships with those close to us.
Episode#329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The speaker explores the idea of romantic relationships, the different aspects that make them work, and how they differ from other types of relationships.
3:01:40 - 3:09:14 (07:33)
Summary
The speaker explores the idea of romantic relationships, the different aspects that make them work, and how they differ from other types of relationships. The topic of robot partners is also introduced, with the speaker believing that although it may be an interesting concept, it will not replace human romantic relationships.