Episode
#164: Kevin Kelly - AI, Virtual Reality, and The Inevitable
1:45:22
Published: Sun Jun 05 2016
Description
Kevin Kelly (@kevin2kelly) is back again and, as I've said before, he might be the real-life "Most Interesting Man In The World." Kevin is Senior Maverick at Wired Magazine, which he co-founded in 1993. He also co-founded the All Species Foundation, a non-profit aimed at cataloging and identifying every living species on earth. In his spare time, he writes bestselling books, co-founded the Rosetta Project, which is building an archive of all†documented human languages, and serves on the board of the Long Now Foundation. As part of the last, he's investigating how to revive and restore endangered or extinct species, including the Wooly Mammoth. Kevin's most recent project is The Inevitable: Understanding the 12 Technological Forces That Will Shape Our Future. The praise for the book is incredible, with Marc Andreessen saying it's, "an automatic must-read." In this conversation, we touch on all sorts of things, including: Stories about Jeff Bezos and his email management approach. Tech literacy. Why there are no "VR experts." Artificial Intelligence (AI). Network effects. GMOs. And much, much more Show notes and links for this episode can be found at www.fourhourworkweek.com/podcast. This episode is brought to you by Headspace, the world’s most popular meditation app (more than 4,000,000 users). It’s used in more than 150 countries, and many of my closest friends swear by it. Try Headspace’s free Take10 program — 10 minutes of guided meditation a day for 10 days. It’s like a warm bath for your mind. Meditation doesn’t need to be complicated or expensive, and it’s had a huge impact on my life. Try Headspace for free for a few days and see what I m This podcast is also brought to you by 99Designs, the world's largest marketplace of graphic designers. I have used them for years to create some amazing designs. When your business needs a logo, website design, business card, or anything you can imagine, check out 99Designs. I used them to rapid prototype the cover for The 4-Hour Body, and I've also had them help with display advertising and illustrations. If you want a more personalized approach, I recommend their 1-on-1 service. You get original designs from designers around the world. The best part? You provide your feedback, and then you end up with a product that you're happy with or your money back. Click this link and get a free $99 upgrade. Give it a test run.***If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes? It takes less than 60 seconds, and it really makes a difference in helping to convince hard-to-get guests. I also love reading the reviews!For show notes and past guests, please visit tim.blog/podcast.Sign up for Tim’s email newsletter (“5-Bullet Friday”) at tim.blog/friday.For transcripts of episodes, go to tim.blog/transcripts.Interested in sponsoring the podcast? Visit tim.blog/sponsor and fill out the form.Discover Tim’s books: tim.blog/books.Follow Tim:Twitter: twitter.com/tferriss Instagram: instagram.com/timferrissFacebook: facebook.com/timferriss YouTube: youtube.com/timferrissPast guests on The Tim Ferriss Show include Jerry Seinfeld, Hugh Jackman, Dr. Jane Goodall, LeBron James, Kevin Hart, Doris Kearns Goodwin, Jamie Foxx, Matthew McConaughey, Esther Perel, Elizabeth Gilbert, Terry Crews, Sia, Yuval Noah Harari, Malcolm Gladwell, Madeleine Albright, Cheryl Strayed, Jim Collins, Mary Karr, Maria Popova, Sam Harris, Michael Phelps, Bob Iger, Edward Norton, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Neil Strauss, Ken Burns, Maria Sharapova, Marc Andreessen, Neil Gaiman, Neil de Grasse Tyson, Jocko Willink, Daniel Ek, Kelly Slater, Dr. Peter Attia, Seth Godin, Howard Marks, Dr. Brené Brown, Eric Schmidt, Michael Lewis, Joe Gebbia, Michael Pollan, Dr. Jordan Peterson, Vince Vaughn, Brian Koppelman, Ramit Sethi, Dax Shepard, Tony Robbins, Jim Dethmer, Dan Harris, Ray Dalio, Naval Ravikant, Vitalik Buterin, Elizabeth Lesser, Amanda Palmer, Katie Haun, Sir Richard Branson, Chuck Palahniuk, Arianna Huffington, Reid Hoffman, Bill Burr, Whitney Cummings, Rick Rubin, Dr. Vivek Murthy, Darren Aronofsky, and many more.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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00:00 - 04:12 (04:12)
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In this episode of the Tim Ferriss Show, Tim has a conversation with a friend who is not a world-class performer across different industries but a regular person with an exceptional story.
Episode#164: Kevin Kelly - AI, Virtual Reality, and The Inevitable
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
In this episode of the podcast, Tim Ferriss catches up with Kevin Kelly, the co-founder of Wired magazine and a renowned futurist and technologist.
04:12 - 10:04 (05:51)
Summary
In this episode of the podcast, Tim Ferriss catches up with Kevin Kelly, the co-founder of Wired magazine and a renowned futurist and technologist. The conversation covers a variety of topics including technology, network effects, virtual reality, China, and artificial intelligence.
Episode#164: Kevin Kelly - AI, Virtual Reality, and The Inevitable
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
Alvin Toffler's book The Future Shock introduced the term prosumer, predicting the rise of user-generated content and the idea of people being both producers and consumers.
10:04 - 16:47 (06:43)
Summary
Alvin Toffler's book The Future Shock introduced the term prosumer, predicting the rise of user-generated content and the idea of people being both producers and consumers. Additionally, Toffler's work explored the concept of a resistance or reaction to rapidly changing technology and the future, which is still relevant today.
Episode#164: Kevin Kelly - AI, Virtual Reality, and The Inevitable
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
China's huge population, a good education system and financial resources place it in a strong position to create an equivalent to Silicon Valley, but the country's size could be a barrier.
16:48 - 21:54 (05:05)
Summary
China's huge population, a good education system and financial resources place it in a strong position to create an equivalent to Silicon Valley, but the country's size could be a barrier.
Episode#164: Kevin Kelly - AI, Virtual Reality, and The Inevitable
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
This podcast episode explains how the hippie generation embraced computers and created a new model of innovation that became influential in the tech industry.
21:54 - 28:04 (06:10)
Summary
This podcast episode explains how the hippie generation embraced computers and created a new model of innovation that became influential in the tech industry. The episode discusses the cultural and economic factors that led to the success of Silicon Valley over other tech hubs like Route 128 in Boston.
Episode#164: Kevin Kelly - AI, Virtual Reality, and The Inevitable
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
Tim Ferris discusses email management with Jeff Bezos and later talks about the "official future" and the benefits of overseas experiences and international travel.
28:04 - 35:52 (07:47)
Summary
Tim Ferris discusses email management with Jeff Bezos and later talks about the "official future" and the benefits of overseas experiences and international travel.
Episode#164: Kevin Kelly - AI, Virtual Reality, and The Inevitable
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
The integration of technological developments such as transportation and electric cars requires convergence and collaboration between different areas.
35:52 - 42:41 (06:48)
Summary
The integration of technological developments such as transportation and electric cars requires convergence and collaboration between different areas. With the need to verify every statement made in scholarly articles, scientific research is fundamental in ensuring the effectiveness of the technology developed.
Episode#164: Kevin Kelly - AI, Virtual Reality, and The Inevitable
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
The podcast host talks about the importance of being present in the moment and finding joy in our experiences.
42:41 - 49:09 (06:27)
Summary
The podcast host talks about the importance of being present in the moment and finding joy in our experiences. He also discusses the delicate balance between order and chaos in life and the inevitability of increasing complexity over time.
Episode#164: Kevin Kelly - AI, Virtual Reality, and The Inevitable
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
In this podcast, the guest discusses the skills needed to navigate the digital world and how the ownership of technology involves more than just the initial purchase cost.
49:10 - 1:01:00 (11:50)
Summary
In this podcast, the guest discusses the skills needed to navigate the digital world and how the ownership of technology involves more than just the initial purchase cost. Techno-literacy skills and the value of doing things repeatedly to find out what one is good at are emphasized.
Episode#164: Kevin Kelly - AI, Virtual Reality, and The Inevitable
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
The emergence of VR has brought about a lot of exciting developments for content creators and users alike.
1:01:00 - 1:06:57 (05:56)
Summary
The emergence of VR has brought about a lot of exciting developments for content creators and users alike. However, the technology still faces significant challenges such as issues with lighting, continuity, editing and having no standard vocabulary yet.
Episode#164: Kevin Kelly - AI, Virtual Reality, and The Inevitable
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
AI will add intelligence to everything, making machines smarter and leading to a disruptive transformation akin to the Industrial Revolution.
1:06:58 - 1:12:51 (05:53)
Summary
AI will add intelligence to everything, making machines smarter and leading to a disruptive transformation akin to the Industrial Revolution. Many jobs may be automated as a result, but AI will also create new jobs and opportunities.
Episode#164: Kevin Kelly - AI, Virtual Reality, and The Inevitable
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
The advancement of VR technology has led to the creation of Sansar and The Void, two VR experiences in which users can fully immerse themselves in a new reality, with advanced body language, 3D volumetric capture and sensory equipment that provides touch and feel.
1:12:51 - 1:23:36 (10:44)
Summary
The advancement of VR technology has led to the creation of Sansar and The Void, two VR experiences in which users can fully immerse themselves in a new reality, with advanced body language, 3D volumetric capture and sensory equipment that provides touch and feel.
Episode#164: Kevin Kelly - AI, Virtual Reality, and The Inevitable
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
The development of haptic suits is inevitable and will be available to those who can afford it in less than five years, however, the regulation of the technology by economics is still questioned while cyber warfare could amplify the use of AI.
1:23:36 - 1:31:22 (07:45)
Summary
The development of haptic suits is inevitable and will be available to those who can afford it in less than five years, however, the regulation of the technology by economics is still questioned while cyber warfare could amplify the use of AI.
Episode#164: Kevin Kelly - AI, Virtual Reality, and The Inevitable
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
The development of AI-driven technology is still in its infancy and there are potentially dangerous consequences if it isn't handled appropriately.
1:31:22 - 1:38:26 (07:04)
Summary
The development of AI-driven technology is still in its infancy and there are potentially dangerous consequences if it isn't handled appropriately. The goal is to build AI to think differently than humans and to augment our ability to complete tasks more efficiently.
Episode#164: Kevin Kelly - AI, Virtual Reality, and The Inevitable
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
In this podcast episode, Tim Ferriss interviews Kevin Kelly about his strategies for cultivating gratitude and expressing it daily, as well as his upcoming speaking engagements and other projects.
1:38:26 - 1:45:17 (06:50)
Summary
In this podcast episode, Tim Ferriss interviews Kevin Kelly about his strategies for cultivating gratitude and expressing it daily, as well as his upcoming speaking engagements and other projects. They also briefly touch on Kelly's book, "The Inevitable: Understanding the 12 Technological Forces That Will Shape Our Future."