Episode
#128 – Michael Malice: Anarchy, Democracy, Libertarianism, Love, and Trolling
3:24:34
Published: Fri Oct 02 2020
Description
Michael Malice is a political thinker, podcaster, and author. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: - SEMrush: https://www.semrush.com/partner/lex/ to get a free month of Guru - DoorDash: https://doordash.com/ and use code LEX to get $5 off - MasterClass: https://masterclass.com/lex to get 15% off annual sub EPISODE LINKS: Michael's Twitter: https://twitter.com/michaelmalice Michael's Community: https://malice.locals.com/ Michael's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5tj5QCpJKIl-KIa4Gib5Xw Michael's Website: http://michaelmalice.com/about/ Your Welcome podcast: https://bit.ly/30q8oz1 The New Right (book): https://amzn.to/34gxLo3 Dear Reader (book): https://amzn.to/2HPPlHS PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: - Check out the sponsors above, it's the best way to support this podcast - Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman - Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LexFridmanPage - Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here's the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. 00:00 - Introduction 04:15 - Sponsors 07:58 - Putin and the Russian soul 15:01 - Love and trolling 25:31 - Problem with government 31:03 - Anarchism 53:07 - Politics 54:59 - Are most people capable of thinking deeply? 1:02:08 - Willy Wonka and Albert Camus view of life 1:08:08 - Trolling 1:12:26 - Conspiracy theories 1:29:43 - Donald Trump and the Election 1:36:58 - Trump Biden presidential debates 1:41:15 - Journalism is broken 1:47:56 - Communism 1:54:02 - Presidential candidates 2:04:34 - Libertarian party 2:14:56 - Objectivism 2:24:17 - Trolling 2:35:21 - The New Right 2:43:29 - Cancel culture 3:13:17 - Book recommendations 3:18:08 - Fear of mortality 3:21:08 - Meaning of life
Chapters
In this episode, Tim Ferriss talks with anarchist, political thinker and author, Michael Malice about his book, The New Right, his political beliefs and his approach to trolling.
00:00 - 02:30 (02:30)
Summary
In this episode, Tim Ferriss talks with anarchist, political thinker and author, Michael Malice about his book, The New Right, his political beliefs and his approach to trolling.
Episode#128 – Michael Malice: Anarchy, Democracy, Libertarianism, Love, and Trolling
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The podcast is sponsored by Masterclass, which offers an all-access pass for $180 per year to watch courses from experts in various fields.
02:30 - 08:15 (05:44)
Summary
The podcast is sponsored by Masterclass, which offers an all-access pass for $180 per year to watch courses from experts in various fields. The host, Lex Fridman, also mentions potentially adding interviews with friends and interesting strangers to the podcast feed.
Episode#128 – Michael Malice: Anarchy, Democracy, Libertarianism, Love, and Trolling
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The speaker recounts a story about bringing in a black lab to confront his friend's fear of dogs, with plans to record the experience with a videographer and another friend.
08:15 - 10:17 (02:01)
Summary
The speaker recounts a story about bringing in a black lab to confront his friend's fear of dogs, with plans to record the experience with a videographer and another friend.
Episode#128 – Michael Malice: Anarchy, Democracy, Libertarianism, Love, and Trolling
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The way we perceive strangers can differ based on our upbringing and cultural norms.
10:17 - 13:33 (03:16)
Summary
The way we perceive strangers can differ based on our upbringing and cultural norms. In some cultures, such as the Russian culture, strangers are often viewed with caution and suspicion.
Episode#128 – Michael Malice: Anarchy, Democracy, Libertarianism, Love, and Trolling
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The speaker explains that love is a strong sense of attraction towards another person or thing, while like is simply enjoying something or having a preference for it.
13:33 - 16:07 (02:34)
Summary
The speaker explains that love is a strong sense of attraction towards another person or thing, while like is simply enjoying something or having a preference for it.
Episode#128 – Michael Malice: Anarchy, Democracy, Libertarianism, Love, and Trolling
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The podcast discusses different types of love that can exist, including romantic love and love shown through kindness and caring for others, and also delves into the importance of protecting oneself and their values.
16:07 - 20:18 (04:10)
Summary
The podcast discusses different types of love that can exist, including romantic love and love shown through kindness and caring for others, and also delves into the importance of protecting oneself and their values.
Episode#128 – Michael Malice: Anarchy, Democracy, Libertarianism, Love, and Trolling
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The constant battle for power and the use of mockery in society is preventing the possibility of a cohesive society.
20:18 - 26:16 (05:57)
Summary
The constant battle for power and the use of mockery in society is preventing the possibility of a cohesive society. By creating different tribes and undercutting those who become more powerful, we are escalating conflict and losing sight of the bigger picture.
Episode#128 – Michael Malice: Anarchy, Democracy, Libertarianism, Love, and Trolling
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The speaker predicts that by 2024, conversations will arise about the personal consequences for those who implemented extreme lockdown measures, including possible consequences for politicians like Cuomo and de Blasio.
26:16 - 31:26 (05:10)
Summary
The speaker predicts that by 2024, conversations will arise about the personal consequences for those who implemented extreme lockdown measures, including possible consequences for politicians like Cuomo and de Blasio. He also believes there will be societal ripple effects due to the data collected during lockdowns about how much control people are willing to give to the state.
Episode#128 – Michael Malice: Anarchy, Democracy, Libertarianism, Love, and Trolling
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The conversation explores the impact of leaders on driving discourse and how language, authority, and power play a role in shaping our thoughts and beliefs.
31:26 - 37:06 (05:39)
Summary
The conversation explores the impact of leaders on driving discourse and how language, authority, and power play a role in shaping our thoughts and beliefs.
Episode#128 – Michael Malice: Anarchy, Democracy, Libertarianism, Love, and Trolling
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The life of ants is considered more important than individual life whereas humans could behave like ants in a distributed manner.
37:06 - 40:21 (03:15)
Summary
The life of ants is considered more important than individual life whereas humans could behave like ants in a distributed manner.
Episode#128 – Michael Malice: Anarchy, Democracy, Libertarianism, Love, and Trolling
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The conversation revolves around state corruption and its effects on society.
40:21 - 45:07 (04:45)
Summary
The conversation revolves around state corruption and its effects on society. The speaker highlights the history of torture techniques and shows how they have been adapted by different countries.
Episode#128 – Michael Malice: Anarchy, Democracy, Libertarianism, Love, and Trolling
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The idea of anarchy in government poses numerous challenges, including the question of whether those advocating for anarchy could gain power within an existing democracy.
45:07 - 53:14 (08:07)
Summary
The idea of anarchy in government poses numerous challenges, including the question of whether those advocating for anarchy could gain power within an existing democracy. There are also risks involved with losing individual identity and capabilities in a collective society.
Episode#128 – Michael Malice: Anarchy, Democracy, Libertarianism, Love, and Trolling
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The speaker believes in encouraging people to learn about and understand ideas that they instinctually disagree with, in order to empathize with others.
53:15 - 58:49 (05:33)
Summary
The speaker believes in encouraging people to learn about and understand ideas that they instinctually disagree with, in order to empathize with others. They also express their preference for a commander in chief who is regarded as a buffoon, as it is useful to have someone who will require a lot of convincing before sending people overseas to start killing.
Episode#128 – Michael Malice: Anarchy, Democracy, Libertarianism, Love, and Trolling
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The speaker references George Carlin's joke on the intelligence of the average person and expresses admiration for watching individuals with quality minds at work.
58:50 - 1:02:34 (03:44)
Summary
The speaker references George Carlin's joke on the intelligence of the average person and expresses admiration for watching individuals with quality minds at work.
Episode#128 – Michael Malice: Anarchy, Democracy, Libertarianism, Love, and Trolling
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The speaker encourages listeners to embrace the idea that life is a magical adventure and not be trained to think otherwise.
1:02:34 - 1:04:14 (01:39)
Summary
The speaker encourages listeners to embrace the idea that life is a magical adventure and not be trained to think otherwise.
Episode#128 – Michael Malice: Anarchy, Democracy, Libertarianism, Love, and Trolling
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The speaker explores the reality of damaged people.
1:04:14 - 1:07:56 (03:42)
Summary
The speaker explores the reality of damaged people. Some enjoy being damaged while others desperately seek happiness and joy.
Episode#128 – Michael Malice: Anarchy, Democracy, Libertarianism, Love, and Trolling
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
In this podcast episode, the host discusses trolling - why people do it, how it can become a game for some and how it can be hurtful for others receiving such comments.
1:07:58 - 1:11:55 (03:57)
Summary
In this podcast episode, the host discusses trolling - why people do it, how it can become a game for some and how it can be hurtful for others receiving such comments.
Episode#128 – Michael Malice: Anarchy, Democracy, Libertarianism, Love, and Trolling
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The creation of conspiracy theories can be dangerous and can quickly go down a rabbit hole of ideas, leading to the belief that there is a small group controlling the world.
1:11:56 - 1:16:14 (04:18)
Summary
The creation of conspiracy theories can be dangerous and can quickly go down a rabbit hole of ideas, leading to the belief that there is a small group controlling the world. This can be reassuring for some, but also contribute to paranoia and mental illness.
Episode#128 – Michael Malice: Anarchy, Democracy, Libertarianism, Love, and Trolling
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The speaker discusses the benefits of being self-employed and unburdened by authority, and also explores the topic of aliens and their place in human society from a philosophical perspective.
1:16:14 - 1:22:38 (06:24)
Summary
The speaker discusses the benefits of being self-employed and unburdened by authority, and also explores the topic of aliens and their place in human society from a philosophical perspective.
Episode#128 – Michael Malice: Anarchy, Democracy, Libertarianism, Love, and Trolling
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The speaker shares their thoughts on the Russian hacking of elections and the belief in a flat earth, discussing the lack of data on the hacking and the amount of data disproving the flat earth theory.
1:22:38 - 1:29:04 (06:25)
Summary
The speaker shares their thoughts on the Russian hacking of elections and the belief in a flat earth, discussing the lack of data on the hacking and the amount of data disproving the flat earth theory.
Episode#128 – Michael Malice: Anarchy, Democracy, Libertarianism, Love, and Trolling
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The podcast discusses the asymmetry in political rhetoric and the lack of normalization of President Trump's election while also acknowledging the love present in political discussions.
1:29:05 - 1:33:54 (04:49)
Summary
The podcast discusses the asymmetry in political rhetoric and the lack of normalization of President Trump's election while also acknowledging the love present in political discussions.
Episode#128 – Michael Malice: Anarchy, Democracy, Libertarianism, Love, and Trolling
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The hosts discuss the importance of playing by the rules and not attacking institutions, even during times of emergency.
1:33:55 - 1:36:28 (02:33)
Summary
The hosts discuss the importance of playing by the rules and not attacking institutions, even during times of emergency. They also question the correlation between being a good debater and being a good president.
Episode#128 – Michael Malice: Anarchy, Democracy, Libertarianism, Love, and Trolling
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The speaker anticipates that, during a presidential debate, Joe Biden will come prepared with talking points and ready to challenge Donald Trump, speculating on the outcome based on their previous debate performances.
1:36:28 - 1:40:04 (03:35)
Summary
The speaker anticipates that, during a presidential debate, Joe Biden will come prepared with talking points and ready to challenge Donald Trump, speculating on the outcome based on their previous debate performances.
Episode#128 – Michael Malice: Anarchy, Democracy, Libertarianism, Love, and Trolling
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The conversation is about investigative journalism and its ability to reveal the truth compared to Reddit subreddits.
1:40:04 - 1:42:56 (02:52)
Summary
The conversation is about investigative journalism and its ability to reveal the truth compared to Reddit subreddits. There is a debate on whether taking mainstream media to a brighter future or revolutionizing it is the right way to go.
Episode#128 – Michael Malice: Anarchy, Democracy, Libertarianism, Love, and Trolling
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The discussion explores the responsibility of arriving at the truth of events such as the economic effects of the coronavirus or the money spent on war.
1:42:56 - 1:45:28 (02:32)
Summary
The discussion explores the responsibility of arriving at the truth of events such as the economic effects of the coronavirus or the money spent on war. While social media is a platform for sharing information and news, it can also involve misinformation and spreading biased narratives.
Episode#128 – Michael Malice: Anarchy, Democracy, Libertarianism, Love, and Trolling
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The speaker discusses their personal concerns about the potential for Donald Trump to interfere with the election process and emphasizes the importance of being vigilant against totalitarianism.
1:45:28 - 1:48:51 (03:22)
Summary
The speaker discusses their personal concerns about the potential for Donald Trump to interfere with the election process and emphasizes the importance of being vigilant against totalitarianism. They also mention their hypothetical approach to handling riots as a dictator.
Episode#128 – Michael Malice: Anarchy, Democracy, Libertarianism, Love, and Trolling
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The speaker discusses how capitalism provides real-time information and perfect information allows for no manipulation.
1:48:51 - 1:54:37 (05:45)
Summary
The speaker discusses how capitalism provides real-time information and perfect information allows for no manipulation. Jordan Peterson is mentioned in connection to atrocities such as the 1930s Ukraine famine. The discussion also touches briefly on current political candidates.
Episode#128 – Michael Malice: Anarchy, Democracy, Libertarianism, Love, and Trolling
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
In this podcast episode, the speaker criticizes Andrew Yang's failed presidential campaign and suggests that despite his interesting ideas, he lacked the competence and experience to run a successful campaign.
1:54:37 - 1:59:56 (05:19)
Summary
In this podcast episode, the speaker criticizes Andrew Yang's failed presidential campaign and suggests that despite his interesting ideas, he lacked the competence and experience to run a successful campaign.
Episode#128 – Michael Malice: Anarchy, Democracy, Libertarianism, Love, and Trolling
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The idea of centrism as the rejection of extreme ideas from both parties being the solution for compromise is challenged.
1:59:56 - 2:05:16 (05:19)
Summary
The idea of centrism as the rejection of extreme ideas from both parties being the solution for compromise is challenged. Centrism lacks a clear political ideology and becomes meaningless without a defined direction or set of values.
Episode#128 – Michael Malice: Anarchy, Democracy, Libertarianism, Love, and Trolling
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The Libertarian Party's strategy is to prioritize educating people about alternatives rather than getting candidates elected, similar to the early progressive and populist parties from the early 20th century who were effective in getting their ideas adopted by the major parties, but not in terms of winning elections.
2:05:16 - 2:09:24 (04:07)
Summary
The Libertarian Party's strategy is to prioritize educating people about alternatives rather than getting candidates elected, similar to the early progressive and populist parties from the early 20th century who were effective in getting their ideas adopted by the major parties, but not in terms of winning elections.
Episode#128 – Michael Malice: Anarchy, Democracy, Libertarianism, Love, and Trolling
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The podcast discusses the lack of strong political candidates representing the ideologies of logic, rather than emotions.
2:09:24 - 2:13:45 (04:21)
Summary
The podcast discusses the lack of strong political candidates representing the ideologies of logic, rather than emotions. The hosts question why representatives or famous speakers who embody these principles are not emerging.
Episode#128 – Michael Malice: Anarchy, Democracy, Libertarianism, Love, and Trolling
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The benefits and drawbacks of going third party depend on factors such as the party apparatus, ballot access, and the inherent "weirdness" of running as an independent.
2:13:45 - 2:18:26 (04:41)
Summary
The benefits and drawbacks of going third party depend on factors such as the party apparatus, ballot access, and the inherent "weirdness" of running as an independent. While it may be an enticing option for some, it also comes with its own share of challenges and detractors.
Episode#128 – Michael Malice: Anarchy, Democracy, Libertarianism, Love, and Trolling
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The philosophy of objectivism, like any other philosophy, has techniques that allow its followers to dismiss topics they do not wish to discuss, which can lead to the philosophy's limitations in understanding the world.
2:18:27 - 2:21:36 (03:09)
Summary
The philosophy of objectivism, like any other philosophy, has techniques that allow its followers to dismiss topics they do not wish to discuss, which can lead to the philosophy's limitations in understanding the world.
Episode#128 – Michael Malice: Anarchy, Democracy, Libertarianism, Love, and Trolling
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
In a cynical media culture, we are sometimes raised to be apologetic for wanting to be happy and love our lives, but we shouldn't let others make us feel bad for our desires.
2:21:36 - 2:26:24 (04:47)
Summary
In a cynical media culture, we are sometimes raised to be apologetic for wanting to be happy and love our lives, but we shouldn't let others make us feel bad for our desires.
Episode#128 – Michael Malice: Anarchy, Democracy, Libertarianism, Love, and Trolling
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The speaker believes that showing love and kindness is the best way to connect with others on the internet, but current platforms do not prioritize this approach.
2:26:24 - 2:29:54 (03:30)
Summary
The speaker believes that showing love and kindness is the best way to connect with others on the internet, but current platforms do not prioritize this approach.
Episode#128 – Michael Malice: Anarchy, Democracy, Libertarianism, Love, and Trolling
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The speaker discusses the challenges of having nuanced conversations about sensitive topics on social media platforms and suggests alternatives to Twitter that could facilitate healthier discussions.
2:29:54 - 2:34:36 (04:42)
Summary
The speaker discusses the challenges of having nuanced conversations about sensitive topics on social media platforms and suggests alternatives to Twitter that could facilitate healthier discussions.
Episode#128 – Michael Malice: Anarchy, Democracy, Libertarianism, Love, and Trolling
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The podcast discusses the healthy practice of finding like-minded individuals to engage in unique or idiosyncratic worldviews and how sometimes, people appear in 4chan without being preemptively dismissive.
2:34:36 - 2:40:21 (05:44)
Summary
The podcast discusses the healthy practice of finding like-minded individuals to engage in unique or idiosyncratic worldviews and how sometimes, people appear in 4chan without being preemptively dismissive.
Episode#128 – Michael Malice: Anarchy, Democracy, Libertarianism, Love, and Trolling
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
This podcast episode discusses the origins of the alt-right movement as a group of bloggers posting scientific racism online, and how it has evolved to be associated with certain individuals such as Gavin McInghis and Milo Yiannopoulos.
2:40:21 - 2:43:43 (03:22)
Summary
This podcast episode discusses the origins of the alt-right movement as a group of bloggers posting scientific racism online, and how it has evolved to be associated with certain individuals such as Gavin McInghis and Milo Yiannopoulos.
Episode#128 – Michael Malice: Anarchy, Democracy, Libertarianism, Love, and Trolling
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The speaker expresses their confusion with the current state of academia and the anti-intellectual sentiment that's been observed, citing examples from Jordan Peterson's criticisms against it.
2:43:43 - 2:50:09 (06:25)
Summary
The speaker expresses their confusion with the current state of academia and the anti-intellectual sentiment that's been observed, citing examples from Jordan Peterson's criticisms against it.
Episode#128 – Michael Malice: Anarchy, Democracy, Libertarianism, Love, and Trolling
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The speaker argues that universities are being portrayed as having a liberal bias in every conversation, and that picking outliers like gender studies departments reinforces this false narrative.
2:50:09 - 2:53:19 (03:10)
Summary
The speaker argues that universities are being portrayed as having a liberal bias in every conversation, and that picking outliers like gender studies departments reinforces this false narrative.
Episode#128 – Michael Malice: Anarchy, Democracy, Libertarianism, Love, and Trolling
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The speaker draws a line between science and engineering innovation and the humanities, emphasizing the importance of engineering departments for making a better world through innovation, discussing the likes of Elon Musk.
2:53:19 - 2:56:29 (03:09)
Summary
The speaker draws a line between science and engineering innovation and the humanities, emphasizing the importance of engineering departments for making a better world through innovation, discussing the likes of Elon Musk.
Episode#128 – Michael Malice: Anarchy, Democracy, Libertarianism, Love, and Trolling
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The speaker believes that all software should be free, and suggests a mentoring program for students to encourage the development of free software.
2:56:29 - 3:00:17 (03:48)
Summary
The speaker believes that all software should be free, and suggests a mentoring program for students to encourage the development of free software. He also advocates for offering solutions rather than simply criticizing institutions.
Episode#128 – Michael Malice: Anarchy, Democracy, Libertarianism, Love, and Trolling
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The conversation revolves around the definition of rape and the importance of being clear and specific when it comes to charges of violent assault.
3:00:17 - 3:03:19 (03:02)
Summary
The conversation revolves around the definition of rape and the importance of being clear and specific when it comes to charges of violent assault.
Episode#128 – Michael Malice: Anarchy, Democracy, Libertarianism, Love, and Trolling
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The language used within the #MeToo movement can be unclear and controversial, which can both help and hurt the larger message it represents.
3:03:20 - 3:06:09 (02:49)
Summary
The language used within the #MeToo movement can be unclear and controversial, which can both help and hurt the larger message it represents.
Episode#128 – Michael Malice: Anarchy, Democracy, Libertarianism, Love, and Trolling
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The speaker discusses how anxiety can arise during times of chaos and ways to manage it, drawing from personal experiences and the experience of others she knows.
3:06:09 - 3:09:55 (03:45)
Summary
The speaker discusses how anxiety can arise during times of chaos and ways to manage it, drawing from personal experiences and the experience of others she knows.
Episode#128 – Michael Malice: Anarchy, Democracy, Libertarianism, Love, and Trolling
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The host discuss the imposter syndrome within the tech industry, pointing out how even successful individuals like Elon Musk, founder of SpaceX, can suffer from feelings of being a fraud.
3:09:56 - 3:13:19 (03:23)
Summary
The host discuss the imposter syndrome within the tech industry, pointing out how even successful individuals like Elon Musk, founder of SpaceX, can suffer from feelings of being a fraud.
Episode#128 – Michael Malice: Anarchy, Democracy, Libertarianism, Love, and Trolling
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The host discusses the potential difficulties of speaking to individuals who have experienced a certain amount of societal stigma that comes with their profession or background, such as prostitutes, prisoners, and slaves, and how some individuals may have conflicting opinions on providing them with a platform to speak.
3:13:19 - 3:19:34 (06:15)
Summary
The host discusses the potential difficulties of speaking to individuals who have experienced a certain amount of societal stigma that comes with their profession or background, such as prostitutes, prisoners, and slaves, and how some individuals may have conflicting opinions on providing them with a platform to speak.
Episode#128 – Michael Malice: Anarchy, Democracy, Libertarianism, Love, and Trolling
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The speaker reflects on the inevitability of failure and the importance of informing and entertaining people to make the world a better place.
3:19:34 - 3:24:14 (04:39)
Summary
The speaker reflects on the inevitability of failure and the importance of informing and entertaining people to make the world a better place.