Episode
#363 - Naama Kates - Investigating The Incel Community
1:18:26
Published: Thu Aug 26 2021
Description
Naama Kates is a writer, producer and creator of the Incel Podcast. The world of involuntary celibates continues to be thrust into the public limelight with incidents in the United States and most recently in the UK with Jake Davison's shooting in Plymouth. Naama has spent years investigating incels so I figured she would be a good place to go to understand what's happening. Expect to learn whether the incel community is a terrorist organisation, why the incel culture can trap members inside of it, how the incels relate to the Mens Rights Movement, the problems associated with driving these communities underground and much more... Sponsors: Get 40% discount on everything from boohooMAN at https://bit.ly/manwisdom (use code MW40) Get 10% discount on your first month from BetterHelp at https://betterhelp.com/modernwisdom (discount automatically applied) Extra Stuff: Follow Naama on Twitter - https://twitter.com/naamakates Check out Naama's Incel Podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/incel/id1469915971 Naama's Unherd article - https://unherd.com/2021/08/what-the-media-gets-wrong-about-incels/ Get my free Reading List of 100 books to read before you die → https://chriswillx.com/books/ To support me on Patreon (thank you): https://www.patreon.com/modernwisdom - Get in touch. Join the discussion with me and other like minded listeners in the episode comments on the MW YouTube Channel or message me... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/ModernWisdomPodcast Email: https://chriswillx.com/contact/
Chapters
This episode talks about the Incel community, its relation to terrorism, the trapping of its members, its relation to the men's rights movement and the problem of driving these communities underground.
00:00 - 02:20 (02:20)
Summary
This episode talks about the Incel community, its relation to terrorism, the trapping of its members, its relation to the men's rights movement and the problem of driving these communities underground.
Episode#363 - Naama Kates - Investigating The Incel Community
PodcastModern Wisdom
The speaker discusses working on a film and discovering the incel community around the same time, realizing a preference for words and sound over visuals.
02:20 - 07:48 (05:27)
Summary
The speaker discusses working on a film and discovering the incel community around the same time, realizing a preference for words and sound over visuals. An advertisement for BetterHelp is included.
Episode#363 - Naama Kates - Investigating The Incel Community
PodcastModern Wisdom
The episode discusses how incel culture originated, the impact of pick-up artists on young men, and the violent consequences of this ideology, such as the Elliot Roger shooting.
07:49 - 15:57 (08:08)
Summary
The episode discusses how incel culture originated, the impact of pick-up artists on young men, and the violent consequences of this ideology, such as the Elliot Roger shooting.
Episode#363 - Naama Kates - Investigating The Incel Community
PodcastModern Wisdom
This podcast discusses the role of online communities in providing a sense of belonging, support and commiseration for individuals struggling in life.
15:57 - 25:58 (10:01)
Summary
This podcast discusses the role of online communities in providing a sense of belonging, support and commiseration for individuals struggling in life. It also touches on studies that document the impact of physical attractiveness in various fields like hiring and dating.
Episode#363 - Naama Kates - Investigating The Incel Community
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The speaker discusses how status and resources can impact one's level of physical attractiveness and mentions the concept of the "halo effect" when it comes to attractiveness.
25:58 - 32:23 (06:25)
Summary
The speaker discusses how status and resources can impact one's level of physical attractiveness and mentions the concept of the "halo effect" when it comes to attractiveness.
Episode#363 - Naama Kates - Investigating The Incel Community
PodcastModern Wisdom
The speaker discusses the tendency in our current culture to label anything negative as racism or misogyny, leading to moral panic and the ascribing of misguided labels to certain situations.
32:23 - 36:55 (04:31)
Summary
The speaker discusses the tendency in our current culture to label anything negative as racism or misogyny, leading to moral panic and the ascribing of misguided labels to certain situations. While there is a need to address such issues, there is also a danger in overgeneralizing and misconstruing certain situations.
Episode#363 - Naama Kates - Investigating The Incel Community
PodcastModern Wisdom
The financial empowerment of women can lead to a smaller dating pool and the struggle to find an equal partner, resulting in disassociated men and single women.
36:55 - 41:35 (04:39)
Summary
The financial empowerment of women can lead to a smaller dating pool and the struggle to find an equal partner, resulting in disassociated men and single women. However, some believe that women's sexual liberation works in their favor when it comes to dating.
Episode#363 - Naama Kates - Investigating The Incel Community
PodcastModern Wisdom
The rise of social media and dating apps have changed the nature of communities as people have endless options to specify their criteria for a partner.
41:35 - 46:21 (04:46)
Summary
The rise of social media and dating apps have changed the nature of communities as people have endless options to specify their criteria for a partner. This impacts the social experience, especially for individuals in fringe communities.
Episode#363 - Naama Kates - Investigating The Incel Community
PodcastModern Wisdom
The issue of disaffected young men joining hate groups needs to be addressed with a scientifically sound approach, and not with the wrong set of expertise and resources.
46:21 - 59:10 (12:49)
Summary
The issue of disaffected young men joining hate groups needs to be addressed with a scientifically sound approach, and not with the wrong set of expertise and resources. It is important to handle this problem and the problem of people becoming radicalized with more thought and understanding.
Episode#363 - Naama Kates - Investigating The Incel Community
PodcastModern Wisdom
The stigma surrounding male virginity is perpetuated through popular culture and is often characterized by negative stereotypes that can lead to harmful consequences for those who uphold these stereotypes.
59:10 - 1:06:41 (07:30)
Summary
The stigma surrounding male virginity is perpetuated through popular culture and is often characterized by negative stereotypes that can lead to harmful consequences for those who uphold these stereotypes.
Episode#363 - Naama Kates - Investigating The Incel Community
PodcastModern Wisdom
The speaker is not often bothered by encountering people with malevolent ideologies, but can become frustrated when individuals are being stubborn or rude.
1:06:42 - 1:12:35 (05:53)
Summary
The speaker is not often bothered by encountering people with malevolent ideologies, but can become frustrated when individuals are being stubborn or rude.
Episode#363 - Naama Kates - Investigating The Incel Community
PodcastModern Wisdom
The problem of incels and their association with violent attacks has led to increased censorship, although the issue remains.
1:12:35 - 1:17:08 (04:32)
Summary
The problem of incels and their association with violent attacks has led to increased censorship, although the issue remains. In China, there are entire tower blocks of disaffected men who are unable to find partners.
Episode#363 - Naama Kates - Investigating The Incel Community
PodcastModern Wisdom
Nama Cates talks about the Incel podcast and where to find it.
1:17:08 - 1:18:21 (01:13)
Summary
Nama Cates talks about the Incel podcast and where to find it. You can follow Incel Project on Twitter at @IncelProject or follow Nama Cates on Twitter at @NamaCates.