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83: NSA Cryptologists
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1:25:56
Published: Tue Jan 19 2021
Description

In this episode we interview two NSA Cryptologists, Marcus J. Carey and Jeff Man. We hear their story of how they got into the NSA and what they did while there. To hear more stories from Jeff tune into Paul’s Security Weekly where Jeff is a regular co-host and shares a lot of stories and insights. Marcus has written several books on security. They are Tribe of Hackers, Tribe of Hackers Blue Team, Tribe of Hackers Red Team, Tribe of Hackers Security Leaders, Think in Code, and a childrens book called Three Little Hackers. Also check out the Tribe of Hackers podcast to hear interviews with all these amazing people! Sponsors Support for this show comes from IT Pro TV. Get 65 hours of free training by visiting ITPro.tv/darknet. And use promo code DARKNET25. Support for this show comes from Linode. Linode supplies you with virtual servers. Visit linode.com/darknet and get a special offer. View all active sponsors. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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00:00 - 01:43 (01:43)
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The speaker tells a story about accidentally stumbling upon the employee entrance to the Pentagon during a trip and observing how employees entered and exited the building.

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83: NSA Cryptologists
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83: NSA Cryptologists
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The NSA's mission is focused on protecting U.S. assets and interests through various levels of secure networks.
17:12 - 23:17 (06:04)
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The NSA's mission is focused on protecting U.S. assets and interests through various levels of secure networks. However, concerns arise as to why they do not disclose exploits found in Microsoft and Google products to help these companies stay secure.

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83: NSA Cryptologists
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The speaker built a cyber range with a complete mock-up of a corporate network where federal agents were able to learn various forensic techniques ranging from log analysis to working with the best software backed by the NSA education.
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The speaker built a cyber range with a complete mock-up of a corporate network where federal agents were able to learn various forensic techniques ranging from log analysis to working with the best software backed by the NSA education.

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The NSA's first attempt at software-based cryptography involved a computer program that would do encryption and decryption, along with a half paper pad and half key on a floppy disk. This was a significant advancement towards the development of software-based cryptography.

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This episode features a discussion on how a small group of individuals learned the intricacies of hacking and internet security by breaking into networks and exploring the nuances of operating systems.
56:53 - 1:04:23 (07:30)
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This episode features a discussion on how a small group of individuals learned the intricacies of hacking and internet security by breaking into networks and exploring the nuances of operating systems.

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The NSA was involved in developing cybersecurity standards with NIST, but actually carried out the methodology required themselves instead of NIST due to unique restrictions.
1:04:23 - 1:12:44 (08:21)
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Cybersecurity
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The NSA was involved in developing cybersecurity standards with NIST, but actually carried out the methodology required themselves instead of NIST due to unique restrictions.

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A former NSA Hacker recalls how he and his team successfully hacked into the US government using open-source reconnaissance.
1:12:44 - 1:24:43 (11:58)
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Cybersecurity
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A former NSA Hacker recalls how he and his team successfully hacked into the US government using open-source reconnaissance. This highlights the need for cybersecurity measures to protect against similar attacks in the future.

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83: NSA Cryptologists
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The host recommends Marcus Carey's book, Tribe of Hackers, and Jeff Man's podcast, Paul's Security Weekly, for more interesting stories on security.
1:24:43 - 1:25:43 (00:59)
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Podcast, cybersecurity
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The host recommends Marcus Carey's book, Tribe of Hackers, and Jeff Man's podcast, Paul's Security Weekly, for more interesting stories on security. Additionally, the host encourages listeners to support the podcast through Patreon.

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83: NSA Cryptologists
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