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#340: Paul Stamets — How Mushrooms Can Save You and (Perhaps) the World
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Published: Thu Oct 11 2018
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Paul Stamets (@PaulStamets) is an intellectual and industry leader in the habitat, medicinal use, and production of fungi. Part of his mission is to deepen our understanding and respect for the organisms that literally exist under every footstep taken on this path of life. Paul is the author of a new study in Nature's Scientific Reports, which details how mushroom extracts—specifically extracts from woodland polypore mushrooms—can greatly reduce viruses that contribute to bee colony collapse.Paul is the author of six books, including Mycelium Running: How Mushrooms Can Help Save the World, Growing Gourmet and Medicinal Mushrooms, and Psilocybin Mushrooms of the World: An Identification Guide, and he has discovered and named numerous species of psilocybin mushrooms. Paul is also the founder and owner of Fungi Perfecti, makers of the Host Defense mushroom supplement line, and it is something I've been using since Samin Nosrat recommended it in my last book, Tribe of Mentors.Paul has received numerous awards, including Invention Ambassador (2014-2015) for the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS), the National Mycologist Award (2014) from the North American Mycological Association (NAMA), and the Gordon & Tina Wasson Award (2015) from the Mycological Society of America (MSA).The implications, applications, and medicinal uses of what we discuss in this interview are truly mind-boggling, and we get into some of my favorite subjects, including psychedelics and other aspects of bending reality. If you're interested in contributing to psychedelic science and research, you can do so at MAPS (Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies), or if you've got $100,000 or more to spare, visit me at tim.blog/science.I hope you enjoy this entire interview, but if you only have time to listen to one part, I recommend checking in at the [56:25] mark to hear how Paul's first experience with psilocybin mushrooms affected his lifelong stutter. Enjoy!This podcast is brought to you by Peloton, which has become a staple of my daily routine. I picked up this bike after seeing the success of my friend Kevin Rose, and I've been enjoying it more than I ever imagined. Peloton is an indoor cycling bike that brings live studio classes right to your home. No worrying about fitting classes into your busy schedule or making it to a studio with a crazy commute.New classes are added every day, and this includes options led by elite NYC instructors in your own living room. 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The Peloton Indoor Cycling Bike brings live studio classes right into your home, offering up to 14 new classes added every day with more than 8,000 classes on demand, and can cater to any preference - music, length, intensity, interval or instructor. It also provides real-time metrics to track performance and beat your personal best.

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#340: Paul Stamets — How Mushrooms Can Save You and (Perhaps) the World
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In this episode, Tim Ferris interviews Paul Stamets, a leading expert in the habitat, medicinal use, and production of fungi.
02:44 - 10:36 (07:51)
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Fungi
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In this episode, Tim Ferris interviews Paul Stamets, a leading expert in the habitat, medicinal use, and production of fungi. They delve into the incredible uses and implications of mushrooms for medicine, sustainability, and the conservation of bees.

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#340: Paul Stamets — How Mushrooms Can Save You and (Perhaps) the World
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Mycologist Paul Stamets argues that the undergound network of mycelium, which acts as the root system for mushrooms, holds the key to solving many of our world's problems.
10:36 - 18:29 (07:52)
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Mycelium
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Mycologist Paul Stamets argues that the undergound network of mycelium, which acts as the root system for mushrooms, holds the key to solving many of our world's problems.

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#340: Paul Stamets — How Mushrooms Can Save You and (Perhaps) the World
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Paul Stamets talks to Joe Rogan about his passion for mycology and how he discovered the antifungal properties of certain fungi, leading to a more environmentally sustainable alternative to toxic insecticides.
18:29 - 30:58 (12:28)
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Environment
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Paul Stamets talks to Joe Rogan about his passion for mycology and how he discovered the antifungal properties of certain fungi, leading to a more environmentally sustainable alternative to toxic insecticides.

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#340: Paul Stamets — How Mushrooms Can Save You and (Perhaps) the World
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Researcher and mycologist, Paul Stamets, speaks about his experience with sending out extracts of mushrooms and mycelium to government labs for testing and the surprising results in creating an all-natural super attractant and antiviral properties of mycelium.
30:58 - 41:32 (10:34)
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mycology
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Researcher and mycologist, Paul Stamets, speaks about his experience with sending out extracts of mushrooms and mycelium to government labs for testing and the surprising results in creating an all-natural super attractant and antiviral properties of mycelium.

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#340: Paul Stamets — How Mushrooms Can Save You and (Perhaps) the World
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In this transcript, the speaker talks about his research on anti-viral compounds in mycelium and his experience with filing a patent that was briefly taken out for national security reasons.
41:32 - 48:55 (07:23)
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Mycelium
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In this transcript, the speaker talks about his research on anti-viral compounds in mycelium and his experience with filing a patent that was briefly taken out for national security reasons.

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The speaker recalls how his interest in drug experimentation developed, starting with marijuana and inspired by his brother's experimentation with magic mushrooms and altered states of consciousness research.
56:34 - 1:03:47 (07:12)
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Mycologist Paul Stamets discusses the benefits of both Lion's Mane mushrooms and mycelium, particularly in their ability to regenerate myelin sheath and improve cognitive function.
1:18:27 - 1:27:17 (08:50)
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Mycologist Paul Stamets discusses the benefits of both Lion's Mane mushrooms and mycelium, particularly in their ability to regenerate myelin sheath and improve cognitive function. He also emphasizes the importance of preserving the knowledge of experienced mycologists to avoid losing vital information in the field.

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Paul Stamets discusses the potential medicinal applications of certain mushrooms, including psilocybin and lion's mane, for conditions such as opioid addiction and neuropathy.

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#340: Paul Stamets — How Mushrooms Can Save You and (Perhaps) the World
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