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#440: Rick Doblin — The Psychedelic Domino That Tips All Others
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Published: Fri Jun 12 2020
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Rick Doblin — The Psychedelic Domino That Tips All Others | Brought to you by Helix Sleep and LinkedIn JobsRick Doblin, PhD, (@rickdoblin) is the founder and executive director of the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies (MAPS). He received his doctorate in public policy from Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government, where he wrote his dissertation on the regulation of the medical uses of psychedelics and marijuana and his master’s thesis on a survey of oncologists about smoked marijuana vs. the oral THC pill in nausea control for cancer patients. Rick was also one of the early students under the legendary Dr. Stanislav Grof.Please listen to this entire episode, as there is a $10M surprise at the end.If you are interested in learning more about MAPS’s critical work and Phase 3 studies to make MDMA-assisted psychotherapy an approved treatment for PTSD, please visit maps.org/capstoneThis podcast episode is brought to you by Helix Sleep! Helix was selected as the #1 best overall mattress pick of 2020 by GQ magazine, Wired, Apartment Therapy, and many others. With Helix, there’s a specific mattress for each and everybody’s unique taste. Just take their quiz—only two minutes to complete—that matches your body type and sleep preferences to the perfect mattress for you. They have a 10-year warranty, and you get to try it out for a hundred nights, risk free. They’ll even pick it up from you if you don’t love it. And now, to my dear listeners, Helix is offering up to 200 dollars off all mattress orders plus two free pillows at HelixSleep.com/TIM.This episode is also brought to you by LinkedIn Jobs. Whether you are looking to hire now for a critical role or thinking about needs that you may have in the future, LinkedIn Jobs can help. LinkedIn is an active community with more than 675 million members worldwide. LinkedIn screens candidates for the hard and soft skills you’re looking for and puts your job in front of candidates looking for job opportunities that match what you have to offer.With LinkedIn, you can hire the right person quickly when you need them. And if you need to hire for healthcare or essential services, you can post your jobs for free. When it’s time to find and hire that right person, LinkedIn is here to help. Just visit LinkedIn.com/Tim to get started! Terms and conditions apply.***If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes? It takes less than 60 seconds, and it really makes a difference in helping to convince hard-to-get guests.For show notes and past guests, please visit tim.blog/podcast.Sign up for Tim’s email newsletter (“5-Bullet Friday”) at tim.blog/friday.For transcripts of episodes, go to tim.blog/transcripts.Interested in sponsoring the podcast? Please fill out the form at tim.blog/sponsor.Discover Tim’s books: tim.blog/books.Follow Tim:Twitter: twitter.com/tferriss Instagram: instagram.com/timferrissFacebook: facebook.com/timferriss YouTube: youtube.com/timferrissPast guests on The Tim Ferriss Show include Jerry Seinfeld, Hugh Jackman, Dr. Jane Goodall, LeBron James, Kevin Hart, Doris Kearns Goodwin, Jamie Foxx, Matthew McConaughey, Esther Perel, Elizabeth Gilbert, Terry Crews, Sia, Yuval Noah Harari, Malcolm Gladwell, Madeleine Albright, Cheryl Strayed, Jim Collins, Mary Karr, Maria Popova, Sam Harris, Michael Phelps, Bob Iger, Edward Norton, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Neil Strauss, Ken Burns, Maria Sharapova, Marc Andreessen, Neil Gaiman, Neil de Grasse Tyson, Jocko Willink, Daniel Ek, Kelly Slater, Dr. Peter Attia, Seth Godin, Howard Marks, Dr. Brené Brown, Eric Schmidt, Michael Lewis, Joe Gebbia, Michael Pollan, Dr. Jordan Peterson, Vince Vaughn, Brian Koppelman, Ramit Sethi, Dax Shepard, Tony Robbins, Jim Dethmer, Dan Harris, Ray Dalio, Naval Ravikant, Vitalik Buterin, Elizabeth Lesser, Amanda Palmer, Katie Haun, Sir Richard Branson, Chuck Palahniuk, Arianna Huffington, Reid Hoffman, Bill Burr, Whitney Cummings, Rick Rubin, Dr. Vivek Murthy, Darren Aronofsky, and many more. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Helix Sleep offers personalized mattresses based on a two-minute sleep quiz with a 10-year warranty and 100-night risk-free trial.
00:00 - 02:26 (02:26)
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Helix Sleep
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Helix Sleep offers personalized mattresses based on a two-minute sleep quiz with a 10-year warranty and 100-night risk-free trial. Listeners can receive up to $200 off and two free pillows by visiting helixsleep.com/Tim.

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#440: Rick Doblin — The Psychedelic Domino That Tips All Others
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In this episode, Tim Ferriss promotes Helix Sleep by offering a discount code, discusses the job recruitment services provided by LinkedIn Jobs, and advertises his own email newsletter, Five Bullet Friday.
02:27 - 10:20 (07:53)
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In this episode, Tim Ferriss promotes Helix Sleep by offering a discount code, discusses the job recruitment services provided by LinkedIn Jobs, and advertises his own email newsletter, Five Bullet Friday.

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#440: Rick Doblin — The Psychedelic Domino That Tips All Others
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Rick Doblin, founder of the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies (MAPS), discusses the therapeutic benefits of MDMA and how it can be used to treat PTSD.
10:20 - 17:33 (07:12)
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MDMA
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Rick Doblin, founder of the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies (MAPS), discusses the therapeutic benefits of MDMA and how it can be used to treat PTSD.

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#440: Rick Doblin — The Psychedelic Domino That Tips All Others
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Sasha Shulgin, the "godfather" of MDMA, created a group of experienced testers to determine the value of new psychedelics.
17:34 - 25:29 (07:55)
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MDMA
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Sasha Shulgin, the "godfather" of MDMA, created a group of experienced testers to determine the value of new psychedelics. Leo Zeff, leader of the underground psychedelic psychotherapy movement, trained therapists and psychiatrists in the use of this drug and helped discover its therapeutic potential.

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#440: Rick Doblin — The Psychedelic Domino That Tips All Others
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The Tim Ferriss Show
PTSD is a serious psychiatric disorder that can affect both military veterans and civilians who have experienced a trauma.
25:30 - 28:53 (03:23)
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PTSD
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PTSD is a serious psychiatric disorder that can affect both military veterans and civilians who have experienced a trauma. It can lead to significant distress and interfere with daily functioning, and even increase the risk of depression, substance abuse, and suicide.

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#440: Rick Doblin — The Psychedelic Domino That Tips All Others
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The Lancet Psychiatry published a paper on a study that used MDMA psychotherapy, where two-thirds of the 26 veterans, firefighters, and police officers treated no longer qualified for the diagnosis of PTSD one month after their second MDMA session.
28:54 - 35:21 (06:27)
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MDMA
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The Lancet Psychiatry published a paper on a study that used MDMA psychotherapy, where two-thirds of the 26 veterans, firefighters, and police officers treated no longer qualified for the diagnosis of PTSD one month after their second MDMA session. MDMA creates empathy and down-regulates the fear response, leading to potential applications in treating PTSD.

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#440: Rick Doblin — The Psychedelic Domino That Tips All Others
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Studies have shown that under the influence of MDMA, humans and mice alike release oxytocin, which stimulates new neural connections in the pro-social areas of the brain and activates fear extinction and memory reconsolidation, resulting in increased memory retention of traumatic events.
35:21 - 39:29 (04:07)
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MDMA
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Studies have shown that under the influence of MDMA, humans and mice alike release oxytocin, which stimulates new neural connections in the pro-social areas of the brain and activates fear extinction and memory reconsolidation, resulting in increased memory retention of traumatic events.

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#440: Rick Doblin — The Psychedelic Domino That Tips All Others
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The guest briefly explains the differences between MDA and MDMA, noting that MDA has a longer duration of effect and more of an activation of blood pressure.
39:29 - 45:27 (05:57)
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MDA, MDMA, therapy, Internal Family Systems
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The guest briefly explains the differences between MDA and MDMA, noting that MDA has a longer duration of effect and more of an activation of blood pressure. The episode also briefly touches on the usefulness of the Internal Family Systems therapy in psychedelic contexts.

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#440: Rick Doblin — The Psychedelic Domino That Tips All Others
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A man shares the story of his girlfriend's traumatic experience and how using MDMA helped her recall and confront the memories, ultimately leading her to check herself into a mental institution.
45:27 - 51:57 (06:30)
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Trauma
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A man shares the story of his girlfriend's traumatic experience and how using MDMA helped her recall and confront the memories, ultimately leading her to check herself into a mental institution. The episode also discusses the importance of understanding the severity of trauma and seeking qualified professionals for treatment involving MDMA therapy.

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#440: Rick Doblin — The Psychedelic Domino That Tips All Others
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This podcast episode explores the use of LSD in the treatment of PTSD and trauma, as well as the story of a woman who was able to overcome her fear and regain trust in herself through LSD-assisted therapy.
51:58 - 56:50 (04:51)
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LSD-assisted therapy
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This podcast episode explores the use of LSD in the treatment of PTSD and trauma, as well as the story of a woman who was able to overcome her fear and regain trust in herself through LSD-assisted therapy.

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#440: Rick Doblin — The Psychedelic Domino That Tips All Others
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MDMA and other compounds have shown incredible therapeutic potential when used under the proper guidance and with the right shaping, leading to positive changes in emotional lives and relationships with loved ones.
56:50 - 1:01:20 (04:29)
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MDMA
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MDMA and other compounds have shown incredible therapeutic potential when used under the proper guidance and with the right shaping, leading to positive changes in emotional lives and relationships with loved ones. Despite the lack of extrinsic reward and past concerns of neurotoxicity, researchers like Marcella are continuing to push for funding and attention for this promising field.

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#440: Rick Doblin — The Psychedelic Domino That Tips All Others
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The speaker shares their personal experience with suicide, including how a young man they knew took his own life after losing hope in finding an underground therapist, and emphasizes the importance of seeking help and motivating others to do the same.
1:01:20 - 1:07:55 (06:34)
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Mental Health
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The speaker shares their personal experience with suicide, including how a young man they knew took his own life after losing hope in finding an underground therapist, and emphasizes the importance of seeking help and motivating others to do the same.

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#440: Rick Doblin — The Psychedelic Domino That Tips All Others
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The Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies (MAPS) has raised $10 million towards their campaign for MDMA-assisted psychotherapy becoming a legal medicine, with a further $10 million needed to reach the finish line.
1:07:55 - 1:14:54 (06:59)
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MDMA-assisted psychotherapy
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The Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies (MAPS) has raised $10 million towards their campaign for MDMA-assisted psychotherapy becoming a legal medicine, with a further $10 million needed to reach the finish line. The initial funding has been committed by various donors including, Peter Rahaul founder of RX Bar, Blake Mycosky founder of TOMS, and Steven Alexandra Cohen of the Steven and Alexandra Cohen Foundation.

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#440: Rick Doblin — The Psychedelic Domino That Tips All Others
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The Psychedelic Science Funders Collaborative (PSFC) is a community of entrepreneurs and investors working towards groundbreaking psychedelic research.
1:14:55 - 1:18:20 (03:25)
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Psychedelic Science Funders Collaborative (PSFC)
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The Psychedelic Science Funders Collaborative (PSFC) is a community of entrepreneurs and investors working towards groundbreaking psychedelic research. Members contribute financially and participate in due diligence, community threads, and group Zoom chats with notable figures like Michael Pollan and Jared Diamond.

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#440: Rick Doblin — The Psychedelic Domino That Tips All Others
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Non-profit organization, Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies (MAPS), has raised over $80 million for their research on MDMA-assisted psychotherapy for post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), and is currently raising an additional $30 million, with a phase III cost estimate of roughly $65 million to get their treatment approved through the FDA and Health Canada.
1:18:21 - 1:23:15 (04:54)
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MDMA-assisted psychotherapy
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Non-profit organization, Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies (MAPS), has raised over $80 million for their research on MDMA-assisted psychotherapy for post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), and is currently raising an additional $30 million, with a phase III cost estimate of roughly $65 million to get their treatment approved through the FDA and Health Canada. The highly driven, non-pharmaceutical salaried staff, and already available extensive research on MDMA and Ecstasy are contributing factors to the organization's efficient development process.

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#440: Rick Doblin — The Psychedelic Domino That Tips All Others
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The speaker discusses their agreement letter from the FDA's special protocol assessment process and the success of their phase three design.
1:23:15 - 1:29:18 (06:02)
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FDA Approval
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The speaker discusses their agreement letter from the FDA's special protocol assessment process and the success of their phase three design. They are bound to approve the drug if they receive statistical evidence of efficacy and encounter no new safety issues.

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#440: Rick Doblin — The Psychedelic Domino That Tips All Others
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This episode is a powerful conversation with Rick Doblin, the founder and executive director of MAPS, and the foremost expert in the field of psychedelic assisted psychotherapy for the treatment of PTSD.
1:29:18 - 1:37:07 (07:48)
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Psychedelics
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This episode is a powerful conversation with Rick Doblin, the founder and executive director of MAPS, and the foremost expert in the field of psychedelic assisted psychotherapy for the treatment of PTSD. They discuss MAPS and the upcoming publication of the Phase 3 trials, how to influence and educate regulatory agencies, the power of public opinion, the elitist nature of conventional pharmaceuticals, and much more.

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#440: Rick Doblin — The Psychedelic Domino That Tips All Others
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1:37:07 - 1:43:27 (06:19)
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Helix Sleep offers customized mattresses based on individual preferences as determined by a two-minute sleep quiz.
1:43:27 - 1:45:02 (01:35)
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Helix Sleep
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Helix Sleep offers customized mattresses based on individual preferences as determined by a two-minute sleep quiz. They are currently offering up to $200 off and two free pillows with all mattress orders.

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#440: Rick Doblin — The Psychedelic Domino That Tips All Others
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