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#618: Roelof Botha — Investing with the Best, Ulysses Pacts, The Magic of Founder-Problem Fit, How to Use Pre-Mortems and Pre-Parades, Learning from Crucible Moments, and Daring to Dream
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Published: Wed Aug 31 2022
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Roelof Botha — Investing with the Best, Ulysses Pacts, The Magic of Founder-Problem Fit, How to Use Pre-Mortems and Pre-Parades, Learning from Crucible Moments, and Daring to Dream | Brought to you by Wealthfront's high-yield savings account, Eight Sleep’s Pod Cover sleeping solution for dynamic cooling and heating, and Shopify global commerce platform providing tools to start, grow, market, and manage a retail business. More on all three below.Roelof Botha (@roelofbotha) has spent over 20 years building companies in Silicon Valley. He began within the walls of nascent PayPal, which he joined in March of 2000 while completing his MBA at Stanford. He became CFO in 2001 and led the company through both its IPO in early 2002 and subsequent acquisition by eBay. Roelof joined Sequoia Capital in 2003 to help founders build enduring businesses. He leads the US/Europe business as Managing Partner and serves as Senior Steward of the global Sequoia Partnership. Roelof is a director of 23andMe, Bird, Ethos, Evernote, Inside.com, Landis, mmhmm, MongoDB, Natera, Pendulum Therapeutics, Square, and Unity Technologies. Previously, he was a director of companies that include YouTube, Tumblr, Xoom, Assurex, and Eventbrite. He also led Sequoia’s investment in Instagram.Please enjoy!This episode is brought to you by Wealthfront! Wealthfront is an app that helps you save and invest your money. Right now, you can earn two percent APY—that’s the Annual Percentage Yield—with the Wealthfront Cash Account. That’s twenty times more interest than if you left your money in a savings account at the average bank, according to FDIC.gov. It takes just a few minutes to sign up, and then you’ll immediately start earning two-percent interest on your savings. And when you open an account today, you'll get an extra fifty dollar bonus with a deposit of five hundred dollars or more. Visit Wealthfront.com/Tim to get started.*This episode is also brought to you by Shopify! Shopify is one of my favorite platforms and one of my favorite companies. Shopify is a platform designed for anyone to sell anywhere, giving entrepreneurs the resources once reserved for big business. In no time flat, you can have a great looking online store that brings your ideas to life, and you can have the tools to manage your day-to-day and drive sales. No coding or design experience required.More than a store, Shopify grows with you, and they never stop innovating, providing more and more tools to make your business better and your life easier. Go to Shopify.com/tim for a FREE 14-day trial and get full access to Shopify’s entire suite of features.*This episode is also brought to you by Eight Sleep! Eight Sleep’s Pod Cover is the easiest and fastest way to sleep at the perfect temperature. It pairs dynamic cooling and heating with biometric tracking to offer the most advanced (and user-friendly) solution on the market. Simply add the Pod Cover to your current mattress and start sleeping as cool as 55°F or as hot as 110°F. It also splits your bed in half, so your partner can choose a totally different temperature.And now, my dear listeners—that’s you—can get $250 off the Pod Cover. Simply go to EightSleep.com/Tim or use code TIM at checkout. *[07:25] What’s the right way to say Roelof Botha?[08:14] 10 to the ninth: motivation in the margins of a Monday meeting notebook.[11:16] The Ulysses Pact.[13:38] Who was Roelof’s grandfather?[15:47] What is actuarial science, and why did Roelof choose it as his major?[20:05] Advice for young, aspiring entrepreneurs.[21:44] Don Valentine and his 2×2 matrix.[24:59] The founder-problem fit.[27:33] Don Valentine’s succinctness writ green.[29:46] Pre-mortems and pre-parades.[32:40] Why Sequoia is aptly named.[36:38] Keeping the team small can be such a big deal.[41:34] Book recommendations.[44:07] Finding balance in the relentless pursuit.[46:37] What it was like for Roelof to finally achieve his “10 to the ninth.”[47:40] The Sequoia Capital Fund.[49:40] How Sequoia’s fee structure maximizes value for clients and keeps the company strong.[58:15] Failure? It all depends on the scale of your ambition.[1:01:37] How Roelof guides founders who wants to sell too soon and for too little.[1:06:48] Founders Roelof considers influential.[1:09:39] Growing up Afrikaner.[1:12:43] How Roelof set his sights on graduating school in first place.[1:14:24] Silkworms.[1:16:40] What Roelof’s TED Talk about a secondary interest would entail.[1:18:05] Rugby.[1:21:26] Roelof’s physical routines for staying in shape.[1:24:17] Crucible moments.[1:27:18] How Roelof wound up in the world of Silicon Valley startups.[1:34:01] Early days (and challenges) at PayPal.[1:38:05] Memorable failures and the lessons they imparted.[1:44:32] Coping with VC’s high rate of failure as someone who hates to lose.[1:48:01] In case of doldrums, please present homemade pesto.[1:49:15] What Peter Thiel taught Roelof about changing his mind.[1:56:01] How professionalization in VC has developed over time.[2:02:25] Roelof’s billboard.[2:04:58] Parting thoughts.*For show notes and past guests on The Tim Ferriss Show, please visit tim.blog/podcast.For deals from sponsors of The Tim Ferriss Show, please visit tim.blog/podcast-sponsorsSign up for Tim’s email newsletter (5-Bullet Friday) at tim.blog/friday.For transcripts of episodes, go to tim.blog/transcripts.Discover Tim’s books: tim.blog/books.Follow Tim:Twitter: twitter.com/tferriss Instagram: instagram.com/timferrissYouTube: youtube.com/timferrissFacebook: facebook.com/timferriss LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/timferrissPast guests on The Tim Ferriss Show include Jerry Seinfeld, Hugh Jackman, Dr. Jane Goodall, LeBron James, Kevin Hart, Doris Kearns Goodwin, Jamie Foxx, Matthew McConaughey, Esther Perel, Elizabeth Gilbert, Terry Crews, Sia, Yuval Noah Harari, Malcolm Gladwell, Madeleine Albright, Cheryl Strayed, Jim Collins, Mary Karr, Maria Popova, Sam Harris, Michael Phelps, Bob Iger, Edward Norton, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Neil Strauss, Ken Burns, Maria Sharapova, Marc Andreessen, Neil Gaiman, Neil de Grasse Tyson, Jocko Willink, Daniel Ek, Kelly Slater, Dr. Peter Attia, Seth Godin, Howard Marks, Dr. Brené Brown, Eric Schmidt, Michael Lewis, Joe Gebbia, Michael Pollan, Dr. Jordan Peterson, Vince Vaughn, Brian Koppelman, Ramit Sethi, Dax Shepard, Tony Robbins, Jim Dethmer, Dan Harris, Ray Dalio, Naval Ravikant, Vitalik Buterin, Elizabeth Lesser, Amanda Palmer, Katie Haun, Sir Richard Branson, Chuck Palahniuk, Arianna Huffington, Reid Hoffman, Bill Burr, Whitney Cummings, Rick Rubin, Dr. Vivek Murthy, Darren Aronofsky, and many more.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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8sleep is a simple and user-friendly solution for enhancing sleep that tracks biometrics, pairs dynamic cooling and heating to offer the most advanced temperature control in the market.
00:00 - 02:38 (02:37)
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Sleep
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8sleep is a simple and user-friendly solution for enhancing sleep that tracks biometrics, pairs dynamic cooling and heating to offer the most advanced temperature control in the market. It helps to fall asleep up to 32% faster, reduces sleep interruptions up to 40% and offers a comfortable, personalized experience for each individual user.

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#618: Roelof Botha — Investing with the Best, Ulysses Pacts, The Magic of Founder-Problem Fit, How to Use Pre-Mortems and Pre-Parades, Learning from Crucible Moments, and Daring to Dream
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Shopify has grown from a team of 10 to 7,000 employees serving customers in 175 countries with total sales on the platform exceeding $1.4 billion.
02:38 - 08:28 (05:50)
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Shopify
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Shopify has grown from a team of 10 to 7,000 employees serving customers in 175 countries with total sales on the platform exceeding $1.4 billion. Shopify provides powerful tools for e-commerce businesses to find customers, drive sales and manage day-to-day operations.

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#618: Roelof Botha — Investing with the Best, Ulysses Pacts, The Magic of Founder-Problem Fit, How to Use Pre-Mortems and Pre-Parades, Learning from Crucible Moments, and Daring to Dream
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The podcast covers an array of topics like the importance of tracking progress, the feeling of being overshadowed by someone’s accomplishments, what actuaries do, and how to be financially-savvy.
08:28 - 17:43 (09:15)
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Financial Engineering
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The podcast covers an array of topics like the importance of tracking progress, the feeling of being overshadowed by someone’s accomplishments, what actuaries do, and how to be financially-savvy.

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#618: Roelof Botha — Investing with the Best, Ulysses Pacts, The Magic of Founder-Problem Fit, How to Use Pre-Mortems and Pre-Parades, Learning from Crucible Moments, and Daring to Dream
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The ability to think long-term has helped in the success of venture capitalist Bill Gurley.
17:43 - 23:16 (05:32)
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Venture Capital
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The ability to think long-term has helped in the success of venture capitalist Bill Gurley. Gurley attributes his proficiency in long-term thinking to his training as an actuary rather than a short-term focused accountant.

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#618: Roelof Botha — Investing with the Best, Ulysses Pacts, The Magic of Founder-Problem Fit, How to Use Pre-Mortems and Pre-Parades, Learning from Crucible Moments, and Daring to Dream
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The Tim Ferriss Show
The key starting condition for building a successful company is the founder's market and problem fit, where they are aligned with the change they want to bring to the world.
23:16 - 27:21 (04:04)
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Entrepreneurship
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The key starting condition for building a successful company is the founder's market and problem fit, where they are aligned with the change they want to bring to the world.

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#618: Roelof Botha — Investing with the Best, Ulysses Pacts, The Magic of Founder-Problem Fit, How to Use Pre-Mortems and Pre-Parades, Learning from Crucible Moments, and Daring to Dream
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Sequoia Capital invests in companies in their earliest stages, with an emphasis on authentic inspiration and founder-problem fit.
27:21 - 37:46 (10:25)
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Venture Capital
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Sequoia Capital invests in companies in their earliest stages, with an emphasis on authentic inspiration and founder-problem fit. However, as the number of competitors and investors increase, it is becoming more challenging for Sequoia to invest in the earliest stages without diluting the founders.

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#618: Roelof Botha — Investing with the Best, Ulysses Pacts, The Magic of Founder-Problem Fit, How to Use Pre-Mortems and Pre-Parades, Learning from Crucible Moments, and Daring to Dream
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Sequoia Capital’s Doug Leone discusses the importance of identifying one’s true motivation and how it contributes to success, as well as the difficulties of balancing the relentless pursuit of goals and the need for contentment.
37:46 - 45:28 (07:42)
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Motivation
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Sequoia Capital’s Doug Leone discusses the importance of identifying one’s true motivation and how it contributes to success, as well as the difficulties of balancing the relentless pursuit of goals and the need for contentment.

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#618: Roelof Botha — Investing with the Best, Ulysses Pacts, The Magic of Founder-Problem Fit, How to Use Pre-Mortems and Pre-Parades, Learning from Crucible Moments, and Daring to Dream
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Venture capital firms typically charge a management fee based on the fund size, and also receive carry, which is a percentage of the profits earned.
45:28 - 53:47 (08:18)
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Venture Capital
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Venture capital firms typically charge a management fee based on the fund size, and also receive carry, which is a percentage of the profits earned. This system has come into question recently, as some have found that investing in private companies can yield greater returns than investing in public markets.

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#618: Roelof Botha — Investing with the Best, Ulysses Pacts, The Magic of Founder-Problem Fit, How to Use Pre-Mortems and Pre-Parades, Learning from Crucible Moments, and Daring to Dream
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Sequoia Capital's Doug Leone explains the power-law curve that governs the venture capital industry, highlighting the crucial role of patient investing in achieving 10x, 55x, and even 200x returns.
53:47 - 1:05:16 (11:28)
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Venture Capital
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Sequoia Capital's Doug Leone explains the power-law curve that governs the venture capital industry, highlighting the crucial role of patient investing in achieving 10x, 55x, and even 200x returns.

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#618: Roelof Botha — Investing with the Best, Ulysses Pacts, The Magic of Founder-Problem Fit, How to Use Pre-Mortems and Pre-Parades, Learning from Crucible Moments, and Daring to Dream
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Secondary transactions are exchanges of company shares between two individuals that are unrelated to the company.
1:05:16 - 1:16:27 (11:10)
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Secondary Transactions
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Secondary transactions are exchanges of company shares between two individuals that are unrelated to the company. This can happen when an employee or founder sells shares to an outside individual, and the money does not end up in the company's balance sheet.

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#618: Roelof Botha — Investing with the Best, Ulysses Pacts, The Magic of Founder-Problem Fit, How to Use Pre-Mortems and Pre-Parades, Learning from Crucible Moments, and Daring to Dream
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Tim Ferriss shares his experience with exercising and his love for rugby while discussing his research trip to South Africa for his book, The Four Hour Body.
1:16:27 - 1:23:57 (07:30)
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Exercise, Rugby
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Tim Ferriss shares his experience with exercising and his love for rugby while discussing his research trip to South Africa for his book, The Four Hour Body.

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#618: Roelof Botha — Investing with the Best, Ulysses Pacts, The Magic of Founder-Problem Fit, How to Use Pre-Mortems and Pre-Parades, Learning from Crucible Moments, and Daring to Dream
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The importance of identifying key decisions in one's career is discussed as it can be easy to overlook moments that have shaped a person's professional trajectory.
1:23:57 - 1:28:56 (04:59)
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Career Development
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The importance of identifying key decisions in one's career is discussed as it can be easy to overlook moments that have shaped a person's professional trajectory. Anecdotes are shared about how these pivotal moments can sometimes come from unexpected people or circumstances.

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#618: Roelof Botha — Investing with the Best, Ulysses Pacts, The Magic of Founder-Problem Fit, How to Use Pre-Mortems and Pre-Parades, Learning from Crucible Moments, and Daring to Dream
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The founder of Stripe talks about his journey from studying finance to creating a successful payments company, and the challenges he faced early on in his career, including living off borrowed funds and dealing with merchant fraud.
1:28:56 - 1:37:04 (08:08)
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Entrepreneurship
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The founder of Stripe talks about his journey from studying finance to creating a successful payments company, and the challenges he faced early on in his career, including living off borrowed funds and dealing with merchant fraud.

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#618: Roelof Botha — Investing with the Best, Ulysses Pacts, The Magic of Founder-Problem Fit, How to Use Pre-Mortems and Pre-Parades, Learning from Crucible Moments, and Daring to Dream
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Building self-confidence when admitting mistakes can be difficult, especially in the investment industry.
1:37:05 - 1:49:32 (12:27)
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self-confidence
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Building self-confidence when admitting mistakes can be difficult, especially in the investment industry. Providing a psychologically safe space can help individuals overcome these issues.

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The ability to change our minds is innate, but it can be cultivated by creating a culture that values standing up to new information, changing one's mind, and recognizing others who do the same.
1:49:32 - 1:55:16 (05:44)
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Organizational Culture
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The ability to change our minds is innate, but it can be cultivated by creating a culture that values standing up to new information, changing one's mind, and recognizing others who do the same. While postmortems may not always be required, revisiting assumptions and being open to changing one's mind is necessary for success in investing.

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#618: Roelof Botha — Investing with the Best, Ulysses Pacts, The Magic of Founder-Problem Fit, How to Use Pre-Mortems and Pre-Parades, Learning from Crucible Moments, and Daring to Dream
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Sequoia's focus on teamwork is highlighted when they distribute credit for successful companies to all members who contributed, rather than just the board member attached.
1:55:16 - 2:02:31 (07:14)
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Venture Capital
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Sequoia's focus on teamwork is highlighted when they distribute credit for successful companies to all members who contributed, rather than just the board member attached. The professionalization of the industry also emphasizes the importance of collaboration over individual attribution.

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#618: Roelof Botha — Investing with the Best, Ulysses Pacts, The Magic of Founder-Problem Fit, How to Use Pre-Mortems and Pre-Parades, Learning from Crucible Moments, and Daring to Dream
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Shopify provides users with tools for building and customizing an online store without any coding or design experience necessary.
2:02:31 - 2:09:47 (07:15)
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Shopify
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Shopify provides users with tools for building and customizing an online store without any coding or design experience necessary. With resources to help manage day-to-day operations and extensive knowledge to ensure success, Shopify has grown from 10 to 15 employees to over 7,000 serving customers in 175 countries with total sales exceeding $400 billion.

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#618: Roelof Botha — Investing with the Best, Ulysses Pacts, The Magic of Founder-Problem Fit, How to Use Pre-Mortems and Pre-Parades, Learning from Crucible Moments, and Daring to Dream
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The Tim Ferriss Show
This podcast episode mentions two products: the 8Sleep mattress cover, which allows users to regulate their sleeping temperature, and Shopify, an e-commerce platform that offers a free 14-day trial.
2:09:47 - 2:12:32 (02:44)
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Sleep products
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This podcast episode mentions two products: the 8Sleep mattress cover, which allows users to regulate their sleeping temperature, and Shopify, an e-commerce platform that offers a free 14-day trial.

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#618: Roelof Botha — Investing with the Best, Ulysses Pacts, The Magic of Founder-Problem Fit, How to Use Pre-Mortems and Pre-Parades, Learning from Crucible Moments, and Daring to Dream
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The Tim Ferriss Show