Episode
Show 61 - (Blitz) Painfotainment
4:31:01
Published: Sat Jan 27 2018
Description
Pain is at the root of most drama and entertainment. When does it get too real? This very disturbing and graphic show looks into some case studies and asks some deep questions. WARNING Very intense subject matter.
Chapters
The distinction between real pain and storytelling pain is examined in this episode, leading to a discussion about the loophole of the infliction of pain.
00:00 - 05:02 (05:02)
Summary
The distinction between real pain and storytelling pain is examined in this episode, leading to a discussion about the loophole of the infliction of pain.
EpisodeShow 61 - (Blitz) Painfotainment
PodcastDan Carlin's Hardcore History
The podcast host questions whether our aversion to violence is a modern societal construct or a natural inborn preference.
05:03 - 13:32 (08:29)
Summary
The podcast host questions whether our aversion to violence is a modern societal construct or a natural inborn preference. He speculates whether bloodthirsty times like the Roman era may have created a love for violence or if it caters to an innate need.
EpisodeShow 61 - (Blitz) Painfotainment
PodcastDan Carlin's Hardcore History
Public executions in France during the 16th to the middle of the 18th century were popular with all social classes, with spectators often renting windows overlooking the execution site at exorbitant prices.
13:33 - 23:16 (09:43)
Summary
Public executions in France during the 16th to the middle of the 18th century were popular with all social classes, with spectators often renting windows overlooking the execution site at exorbitant prices. Credible primary sources suggest that the people who gathered for these executions were excited about the event and knew what they were coming to watch.
EpisodeShow 61 - (Blitz) Painfotainment
PodcastDan Carlin's Hardcore History
Historian Garry G. Fagan recounts the perspective of Casanova - who considered the spectacle of execution an offense against humanity - and how his companions were seemingly not as appalled as he was.
23:16 - 30:19 (07:03)
Summary
Historian Garry G. Fagan recounts the perspective of Casanova - who considered the spectacle of execution an offense against humanity - and how his companions were seemingly not as appalled as he was. The question is raised as to whether the tendency to watch others suffer is a natural default for humans.
EpisodeShow 61 - (Blitz) Painfotainment
PodcastDan Carlin's Hardcore History
The evolution of entertainment from gladiator games to watching animals being killed and humans killing each other and animals for sport.
30:19 - 36:34 (06:15)
Summary
The evolution of entertainment from gladiator games to watching animals being killed and humans killing each other and animals for sport. Once upon a time, advertising exotic animals was enough to draw people in, now it's bloodshed.
EpisodeShow 61 - (Blitz) Painfotainment
PodcastDan Carlin's Hardcore History
The entertainment in Ancient Rome involved more than just violence, with performances by singers, religious messages, and high caliber performers also included.
36:34 - 45:37 (09:03)
Summary
The entertainment in Ancient Rome involved more than just violence, with performances by singers, religious messages, and high caliber performers also included. However, giving the audience the power to control the action was a godlike power.
EpisodeShow 61 - (Blitz) Painfotainment
PodcastDan Carlin's Hardcore History
The ancient Roman games were brutal and painful, and the content was specifically chosen to entertain the crowd with the most extreme and creative executions that would lead to the death of the victims.
45:37 - 53:42 (08:05)
Summary
The ancient Roman games were brutal and painful, and the content was specifically chosen to entertain the crowd with the most extreme and creative executions that would lead to the death of the victims.
EpisodeShow 61 - (Blitz) Painfotainment
PodcastDan Carlin's Hardcore History
The combination of the violence and spectacle in the Roman amphitheaters fascinates people to this day, as the psychology behind its appeal still remains ambiguous.
53:42 - 1:01:38 (07:55)
Summary
The combination of the violence and spectacle in the Roman amphitheaters fascinates people to this day, as the psychology behind its appeal still remains ambiguous. Historian Donald G. Kyle says the audience saw the people they were watching as lesser beings, rendering empathy and sympathy irrelevant in the context.
EpisodeShow 61 - (Blitz) Painfotainment
PodcastDan Carlin's Hardcore History
This podcast episode highlights the difficulty in determining whether or not the Aztecs were genuinely enjoying their ceremonies that involved human sacrifice, and compares it to the documented enjoyment that was experienced during ancient Roman spectacles that were often violent and deadly.
1:01:38 - 1:12:18 (10:40)
Summary
This podcast episode highlights the difficulty in determining whether or not the Aztecs were genuinely enjoying their ceremonies that involved human sacrifice, and compares it to the documented enjoyment that was experienced during ancient Roman spectacles that were often violent and deadly.
EpisodeShow 61 - (Blitz) Painfotainment
PodcastDan Carlin's Hardcore History
The breaking or wheeling execution method, also referred to as braiding or breaking with the wheel, is described as particularly unpleasant in France and Germany during the Roman era, while the eyewitness account from a 1607 execution portrays the victim as a screaming puppet with tentacles of raw flesh mixed with smashed bones.
1:12:18 - 1:21:33 (09:15)
Summary
The breaking or wheeling execution method, also referred to as braiding or breaking with the wheel, is described as particularly unpleasant in France and Germany during the Roman era, while the eyewitness account from a 1607 execution portrays the victim as a screaming puppet with tentacles of raw flesh mixed with smashed bones.
EpisodeShow 61 - (Blitz) Painfotainment
PodcastDan Carlin's Hardcore History
Historian Paul Friedland discusses the surprising lack of sources and accounts of executions during this era, challenging common stereotypes and assumptions about how these events were carried out.
1:21:33 - 1:31:09 (09:36)
Summary
Historian Paul Friedland discusses the surprising lack of sources and accounts of executions during this era, challenging common stereotypes and assumptions about how these events were carried out.
EpisodeShow 61 - (Blitz) Painfotainment
PodcastDan Carlin's Hardcore History
The historical practice of public torture and execution may seem barbaric to us in the modern age, but it was seen as a necessary means to religious salvation in the medieval and renaissance eras, with crowds of people attending such events, either out of entertainment or to participate in the religious experience.
1:31:09 - 1:42:15 (11:06)
Summary
The historical practice of public torture and execution may seem barbaric to us in the modern age, but it was seen as a necessary means to religious salvation in the medieval and renaissance eras, with crowds of people attending such events, either out of entertainment or to participate in the religious experience. While some made the connection between the condemned and Jesus' crucifixion, the majority did not question the morality behind public torture and execution.
EpisodeShow 61 - (Blitz) Painfotainment
PodcastDan Carlin's Hardcore History
Historians believe that public executions began as both a ritualistic and a spectacle event.
1:42:15 - 1:54:44 (12:29)
Summary
Historians believe that public executions began as both a ritualistic and a spectacle event. However, with the rise of the nation-state, the goals of public executions began to conflict with the religious aspects, leading to a change in the views of the audience.
EpisodeShow 61 - (Blitz) Painfotainment
PodcastDan Carlin's Hardcore History
Broad sheets about executions served as entertainment in 18th century Britain.
1:54:44 - 2:01:04 (06:20)
Summary
Broad sheets about executions served as entertainment in 18th century Britain. As executions became more for fun than for religion, it became difficult to determine whether people's behaviors changed because of what they were reading in broad sheets or because of societal shifts.
EpisodeShow 61 - (Blitz) Painfotainment
PodcastDan Carlin's Hardcore History
The rationalist viewpoint of capital punishment views the execution as not for tormenting the criminal but rather to inspire repugnance in others.
2:01:04 - 2:07:18 (06:13)
Summary
The rationalist viewpoint of capital punishment views the execution as not for tormenting the criminal but rather to inspire repugnance in others. However, this belief raises questions about the consequences of executing an absolute ruler who has been converted to a new religion.
EpisodeShow 61 - (Blitz) Painfotainment
PodcastDan Carlin's Hardcore History
The removal of religion from execution rituals may result in a lack of cooperation from the person being executed, as the belief of going to heaven becomes a big reason for them to cooperate.
2:07:19 - 2:14:57 (07:38)
Summary
The removal of religion from execution rituals may result in a lack of cooperation from the person being executed, as the belief of going to heaven becomes a big reason for them to cooperate. Without it, the crowd is more likely to become sympathetic, which is not ideal for Enlightenment rulers trying to send a message.
EpisodeShow 61 - (Blitz) Painfotainment
PodcastDan Carlin's Hardcore History
This episode dives into the history of public executions in England and how it contributed to the creation of a modern state formation.
2:14:57 - 2:20:51 (05:54)
Summary
This episode dives into the history of public executions in England and how it contributed to the creation of a modern state formation. It questions why the public would choose to observe such a violent event and reflects on the role of state control in executing individuals.
EpisodeShow 61 - (Blitz) Painfotainment
PodcastDan Carlin's Hardcore History
During the early modern era, Europe experienced a significant number of executions mainly of people from the lower class and for crimes that may not seem severe by today's standards.
2:20:51 - 2:30:25 (09:33)
Summary
During the early modern era, Europe experienced a significant number of executions mainly of people from the lower class and for crimes that may not seem severe by today's standards. The English defended their high rate of executions with a liberty argument while neighboring countries like Prussia and the Netherlands started to decline their executions.
EpisodeShow 61 - (Blitz) Painfotainment
PodcastDan Carlin's Hardcore History
This episode explores the changing attitudes towards public executions in the 18th century and the conflict between penal theory and cultural sensibilities regarding public executions.
2:30:25 - 2:41:13 (10:48)
Summary
This episode explores the changing attitudes towards public executions in the 18th century and the conflict between penal theory and cultural sensibilities regarding public executions.
EpisodeShow 61 - (Blitz) Painfotainment
PodcastDan Carlin's Hardcore History
This transcript discusses how past execution methods varied from place to place and were often gruesome and torturous even after death with accompanying rituals.
2:41:13 - 2:47:52 (06:38)
Summary
This transcript discusses how past execution methods varied from place to place and were often gruesome and torturous even after death with accompanying rituals.
EpisodeShow 61 - (Blitz) Painfotainment
PodcastDan Carlin's Hardcore History
A discussion on the public execution in Europe during the early 18th and 19th centuries where thousands of people attended to support or witness it.
2:47:52 - 2:56:26 (08:34)
Summary
A discussion on the public execution in Europe during the early 18th and 19th centuries where thousands of people attended to support or witness it. Evans in Rituals of Retribution writes that the public execution was a significant practice that provided support to the condemned.
EpisodeShow 61 - (Blitz) Painfotainment
PodcastDan Carlin's Hardcore History
The effectiveness and outcome of hanging a person depend on various factors and conditions, such as how the rope is tied and the position of the knot, which can affect whether death is certain or prolonged.
2:56:26 - 3:07:59 (11:33)
Summary
The effectiveness and outcome of hanging a person depend on various factors and conditions, such as how the rope is tied and the position of the knot, which can affect whether death is certain or prolonged. The crowd's reaction and interpretation also played a significant role in determining the fate of the person being hanged, sometimes leading to reprieve or commutation of the sentence.
EpisodeShow 61 - (Blitz) Painfotainment
PodcastDan Carlin's Hardcore History
This podcast episode discusses the death penalty during the Tudor period, specifically the use of gunpowder to kill noblemen and the practical implications of extreme methods of execution in preventing future incidents.
3:07:59 - 3:13:36 (05:37)
Summary
This podcast episode discusses the death penalty during the Tudor period, specifically the use of gunpowder to kill noblemen and the practical implications of extreme methods of execution in preventing future incidents.
EpisodeShow 61 - (Blitz) Painfotainment
PodcastDan Carlin's Hardcore History
The images of bad people being executed in gruesome ways were seared in the memory, sometimes supported between warders and chaplain, sometimes struggling fiercely with the executioner, or sinking into pitiable syncope to be hanged sprawling over a chair; and a lot of these places, such as England at the time, were executing people for crimes that no modern state would ever execute people for.
3:13:37 - 3:20:24 (06:47)
Summary
The images of bad people being executed in gruesome ways were seared in the memory, sometimes supported between warders and chaplain, sometimes struggling fiercely with the executioner, or sinking into pitiable syncope to be hanged sprawling over a chair; and a lot of these places, such as England at the time, were executing people for crimes that no modern state would ever execute people for.
EpisodeShow 61 - (Blitz) Painfotainment
PodcastDan Carlin's Hardcore History
Paul Friedland’s book "Seeing Justice Done" sheds light on the life of an executioner, including the extraordinary powers and curses associated with the job, as well as the societal implications that arise from the dishonorable taint of the profession.
3:20:25 - 3:34:01 (13:36)
Summary
Paul Friedland’s book "Seeing Justice Done" sheds light on the life of an executioner, including the extraordinary powers and curses associated with the job, as well as the societal implications that arise from the dishonorable taint of the profession.
EpisodeShow 61 - (Blitz) Painfotainment
PodcastDan Carlin's Hardcore History
Side gigs of "untouchables" in Japanese communities like cleaning latrines and collecting dead animals made them even more ostracized.
3:34:01 - 3:40:34 (06:32)
Summary
Side gigs of "untouchables" in Japanese communities like cleaning latrines and collecting dead animals made them even more ostracized. Modernization is also leading to fewer of these outcasts in Japanese society.
EpisodeShow 61 - (Blitz) Painfotainment
PodcastDan Carlin's Hardcore History
The podcast explores the public's fascination with executions during the 18th and 19th centuries in Paris, despite some individuals beginning to question the morality of the practice.
3:40:35 - 3:48:56 (08:21)
Summary
The podcast explores the public's fascination with executions during the 18th and 19th centuries in Paris, despite some individuals beginning to question the morality of the practice.
EpisodeShow 61 - (Blitz) Painfotainment
PodcastDan Carlin's Hardcore History
Public executions declined not because of a change in sensibilities, but due to the state taking the religious ritual out of it, according to historian Richard J. Evans.
3:48:57 - 4:01:44 (12:47)
Summary
Public executions declined not because of a change in sensibilities, but due to the state taking the religious ritual out of it, according to historian Richard J. Evans.
EpisodeShow 61 - (Blitz) Painfotainment
PodcastDan Carlin's Hardcore History
Despite the popular belief that early modern Europe was a time of moral awakening and progress, the reality was far more gruesome.
4:01:46 - 4:10:47 (09:01)
Summary
Despite the popular belief that early modern Europe was a time of moral awakening and progress, the reality was far more gruesome. Public executions, where crowds participated in and enjoyed the torture of the condemned, provides evidence of the disturbing underbelly of this era.
EpisodeShow 61 - (Blitz) Painfotainment
PodcastDan Carlin's Hardcore History
The idea of cruelty and its necessity is explored in this podcast, discussing how much cruelty is needed in society and how it can be subjective depending on the time and place in history.
4:10:48 - 4:17:59 (07:11)
Summary
The idea of cruelty and its necessity is explored in this podcast, discussing how much cruelty is needed in society and how it can be subjective depending on the time and place in history. The conversation also touches on the impact of violence in media on developing brains and the potential for events like a terrorist attack to change our tolerance for cruelty.
EpisodeShow 61 - (Blitz) Painfotainment
PodcastDan Carlin's Hardcore History
The effects of simulated violence, especially in video games, has long been debated.
4:17:59 - 4:22:45 (04:46)
Summary
The effects of simulated violence, especially in video games, has long been debated. It's difficult to determine if there are any long-term effects, but the realism and frequency of such violence has increased over time.
EpisodeShow 61 - (Blitz) Painfotainment
PodcastDan Carlin's Hardcore History
The rise of deepfakes brings up the question of the effect it will have on society's perception of truth and how people react to it.
4:22:45 - 4:30:22 (07:37)
Summary
The rise of deepfakes brings up the question of the effect it will have on society's perception of truth and how people react to it. Some believe that individuals in the "mushy middle" will adjust to the new version of reality presented, while some others believe that there will be public shaming and backlash against those responsible for creating the deepfakes.
EpisodeShow 61 - (Blitz) Painfotainment
PodcastDan Carlin's Hardcore History
Dan Carlin offers a new way for the hardcore history audience to stay connected between long shows through an additional podcast feed.
4:30:22 - 4:33:55 (03:33)
Summary
Dan Carlin offers a new way for the hardcore history audience to stay connected between long shows through an additional podcast feed. By visiting Audible.com or texting hardcore history to 500-500, listeners can access more audio content and stay in touch with Dan's perspectives more frequently.