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#234 – Stephen Wolfram: Complexity and the Fabric of Reality
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Published: Wed Oct 27 2021
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Stephen Wolfram is a computer scientist, mathematician, and theoretical physicist. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: - ROKA: https://roka.com/ and use code LEX to get 20% off your first order - FightCamp: https://joinfightcamp.com/lex to get free shipping - Onnit: https://lexfridman.com/onnit to get up to 10% off - Indeed: https://indeed.com/lex to get $75 credit - Fundrise: https://fundrise.com/lex EPISODE LINKS: Stephen's Twitter: https://twitter.com/stephen_wolfram Stephen's Blog: https://writings.stephenwolfram.com Wolfram Physics Project: https://www.wolframphysics.org A New Kind of Science (book): https://amzn.to/30XoEun Fundamental Theory of Physics (book): https://amzn.to/30XbAoT PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: - Check out the sponsors above, it's the best way to support this podcast - Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman - Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman - Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here's the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) - Introduction (07:50) - What is complexity (20:51) - Randomness in the universe (25:12) - The Wolfram Physics Project (37:14) - Space and time are discrete (49:19) - Quantum mechanics and hypergraphs (58:33) - What is intelligence (1:09:16) - Computational equivalence (1:17:36) - What it is like to be a cellular automata (1:32:00) - Making prediction vs explanations (1:45:20) - Why does the universe exist (1:51:01) - The universe and rulial space (1:59:44) - Does an atom have consciousness (2:10:10) - Why does our universe exist (2:18:41) - What is outside the ruliad (2:29:15) - Automated proof systems (2:45:10) - Multicomputation for biology (3:03:41) - Cardano NFT collaboration with Wolfram Alpha (3:10:41) - Global theory of economics

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The speaker reflects on the challenge of proving correctness in the field of computer science and the frustration that can arise when building things that may not receive recognition until after one's death.

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The speaker discusses the illusion of complexity when using computational models to analyze complex systems, highlighting the cognitive mistakes that can occur.

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The two concepts that are the foundation of Wolfram's book are multi-computation and rheoliology, which both reveal the underlying structures and simplicity of complex models and systems.

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Stephen Wolfram talks about the challenges of driving progress in basic science projects in academic settings, particularly in terms of translating pure NKS (New Science) research into concrete advancements, and compares it to the concept of pure mathematics.
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Academic research
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Stephen Wolfram talks about the challenges of driving progress in basic science projects in academic settings, particularly in terms of translating pure NKS (New Science) research into concrete advancements, and compares it to the concept of pure mathematics.

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