Donald Trump has finally been indicted. We will not be offering you a play-by-play of the former president driving to and from various airports, but we do have an excellent conversation about the nature of accountability in America’s two-tiered justice system—and why white collar criminals are so often above the law. We’re joined by Dr. Phillip Atiba Goff, Yale professor and co-founder/CEO of the Center for Policing Equity, and David Dayen, the executive editor of The American Prospect.Season 2 is now streaming on Apple TV+.CREDITS Hosted by: Jon StewartFeaturing, in order of appearance: Phillip Atiba Goff, David DayenExecutive Produced by Jon Stewart, Brinda Adhikari, James Dixon, Chris McShane, and Richard PleplerLead Producer: Sophie EricksonProducers: Zach Goldbaum, Caity GrayAssoc. Producer: Andrea BetanzosSound Engineer: Miguel CarrascalSenior Digital Producer: Freddie MorganDigital Producer: Cassie MurdochDigital Coordinator: Norma HernandezSupervising Producer: Lorrie BaranekHead Writer: Kris AcimovicElements Producer: Kenneth HullClearances Producer: Daniella PhilipsonSenior Talent Producer: Brittany MehmedovicTalent Manager: Marjorie McCurryTalent Coordinator: Lukas ThimmSenior Research Producer: Susan HelvenstonResearch Producer: Harjyot Ron SinghTheme Music by: Gary Clark Jr.The Problem With Jon Stewart podcast is an Apple TV+ podcast produced by Busboy Productions.https://apple.co/-JonStewart
David Dayen of American Prospect and Dr. Philippa Tebogoff of Center for Policing Equity join the podcast to discuss the two-tiered justice system in America and the consequences it has on people like Donald Trump.
The amount of wage theft occurring is over a hundred times larger than robbery, yet it is not seen as a crime. Corporate crime is being forgotten in the face of this rising issue.
Black kids are 18 times more likely to be tried as adults than white kids due to the biases of deferred prosecution agreements (DPAs) reserved for non-minority individuals. Lack of resources and money also hinder the ability to prosecute criminals with thick wallets, leading to the continued use of DPAs.
The episode discusses mortgage frauds where banks engaged in the predatory practices that cost homeowners everything and almost brought down the economy and the need to redefine corruption.
Phil and Josh discuss the difficult nature of prosecuting white-collar crime, and how the definition of what constitutes a white-collar crime has evolved. Despite white-collar crimes such as pension fund raids or wage thefts being a daily occurrence, these criminals often avoid punishment due to a lack of accountability.
The Republican party has a new populist strain that Donald Trump has harnessed, which seems to go against the principles of the legal system, something that Republicans were once advocating for.
Fox News continues to broadcast the reality distortion field they have created, showing they are more concerned with maintaining the infrastructure they've built rather than reporting the truth. The speaker's anger is aimed towards the media and their lack of accountability for perpetuating these kinds of stories.
The entrenched poverty class of non-Black and Brown people are being particularly activated by new populist rhetoric, but they don't want folks to know about the petty thefts that the rich pull in vulnerable communities every day. The violation of the social contract demands consequences, which is the rationale for any punitive criminal justice system.
The culture of impunity for those who engage in systemic crimes is the biggest problem, needing political will to counteract it rather than better education, or people will turn to other solutions instead of holding powerful or well-connected individuals accountable.