The failure to take diplomatic steps to diffuse the crisis and war, combined with the policy of driving people into an axis of evil, has led to poisoned diplomatic relations between the US and Russia. This has had major consequences and looks like the US is losing the war, while powering up the Chinese economy as a more formidable enemy to the US.
A heated debate on whether the West provoked Russia into invading other countries or not, and the importance of standing up for human rights and democracy in the face of authoritarian regimes.
The hosts of the podcast discuss foreign policy and remind listeners that they are not experts in the subject. One of the hosts believes that the West should present a united front against Russia, while the other thinks that going solo in foreign conflicts is a mistake.