Chapter

The Role of Ideology in Genocide
listen on Spotify
28:23 - 38:57 (10:33)

Historian Martin Malia argues that ideology plays a crucial role in the potential for genocide, as it can create a system where people believe there is a right side of history and a wrong side that must be destroyed. The personality of those in power and historical circumstances can also contribute to the potential for genocide.

Clips
The transcript discusses Stalin's annoyance with the Ukrainians for their resistance to collectivization and not conforming to his beliefs on how peasants should act, leading to a desire to break the back of Ukrainian nationalism as a separatist force.
28:23 - 30:15 (01:51)
listen on Spotify
Ukrainian nationalism
Summary

The transcript discusses Stalin's annoyance with the Ukrainians for their resistance to collectivization and not conforming to his beliefs on how peasants should act, leading to a desire to break the back of Ukrainian nationalism as a separatist force.

Chapter
The Role of Ideology in Genocide
Episode
#248 – Norman Naimark: Genocide, Stalin, Hitler, Mao, and Absolute Power
Podcast
Lex Fridman Podcast
The characteristics of political dictatorship are discussed, including the tendency to blame others and a totalitarian way of functioning.
30:15 - 33:02 (02:47)
listen on Spotify
Political dictatorship
Summary

The characteristics of political dictatorship are discussed, including the tendency to blame others and a totalitarian way of functioning.

Chapter
The Role of Ideology in Genocide
Episode
#248 – Norman Naimark: Genocide, Stalin, Hitler, Mao, and Absolute Power
Podcast
Lex Fridman Podcast
Historian Martin Malia believes that ideology plays a significant role in genocide as it permits the idea of destroying those on the wrong side of history.
33:04 - 36:32 (03:27)
listen on Spotify
Genocide
Summary

Historian Martin Malia believes that ideology plays a significant role in genocide as it permits the idea of destroying those on the wrong side of history. Although personality, historical circumstance, and the reins of power contribute to the difference of who commits genocide, some leaders such as Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot extensively engage in genocide.

Chapter
The Role of Ideology in Genocide
Episode
#248 – Norman Naimark: Genocide, Stalin, Hitler, Mao, and Absolute Power
Podcast
Lex Fridman Podcast
The speaker, drawing from his experience in living in different political systems, emphasizes the need to differentiate between mass violation of human rights and genocide as well as notes that ideology may not necessarily lead to mass murder.
36:32 - 38:57 (02:25)
listen on Spotify
Politics
Summary

The speaker, drawing from his experience in living in different political systems, emphasizes the need to differentiate between mass violation of human rights and genocide as well as notes that ideology may not necessarily lead to mass murder.

Chapter
The Role of Ideology in Genocide
Episode
#248 – Norman Naimark: Genocide, Stalin, Hitler, Mao, and Absolute Power
Podcast
Lex Fridman Podcast