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America’s Caste System With Isabel Wilkerson
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1:00:19
Published: Thu Mar 31 2022
Description

The season finale of The Problem With Jon Stewart is now streaming on Apple TV+, so we decided to go out with something light and noncontroversial: Race! Who could have guessed that even after a full hour of TV, there would still be more to discuss about race in America? Jon is joined by Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist and best-selling author Isabel Wilkerson to discuss race, racism, and America’s caste system. Staff writers Jay Jurden and Kasaun Wilson also talk to Jon about their experiences writing this episode with him.We want to hear from you! Call in your questions or comments to our hotline: 1-212-634-7222.To watch our latest episode, visit https://theproblem.link/AppleTVCREDITSHosted by: Jon StewartFeaturing, in order of appearance: Jay Jurden, Kasaun Wilson, Isabel WilkersonExecutive Produced by Jon Stewart, Brinda Adhikari, James Dixon, Chris McShane, and Richard Plepler.Lead Producer: Sophie EricksonProducers: Caity Gray, Robby SlowikAssoc. Producer: Andrea BetanzosSound Engineer & Editor: Miguel CarrascalSound Mixer: Ignacio BonetSenior Digital Producer: Kwame OpamDigital Coordinator: Norma HernandezSupervising Producer: Lorrie BaranekHead Writer: Kris AcimovicElements: Kenneth Hull, Daniella PhilipsonTalent: Brittany Mehmedovic, Haley DenzakResearch: Susan Helvenston, Andy Crystal, Anne Bennett, Deniz Çam, Harjyot Ron SinghTheme Music by: Gary Clark Jr.The Problem With Jon Stewart podcast is an Apple TV+ podcast, produced by Busboy Productions.https://apple.co/-JonStewart

Chapters
On this podcast, the speakers - Jay, Kason discuss their experience with Apple TV Plus.
00:00 - 01:02 (01:02)
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Apple TV Plus
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On this podcast, the speakers - Jay, Kason discuss their experience with Apple TV Plus.

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America’s Caste System With Isabel Wilkerson
Podcast
The Problem With Jon Stewart
The discussions leading up to the episode were a fun process discussing race relations and it was clear there was trust and understanding between everyone that allowed for difficult conversations to be had.
01:02 - 04:22 (03:19)
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Race Relations
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The discussions leading up to the episode were a fun process discussing race relations and it was clear there was trust and understanding between everyone that allowed for difficult conversations to be had. This conversation highlights the importance of replicating that trust in real life conversations in order to move forward in addressing issues of racism.

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America’s Caste System With Isabel Wilkerson
Podcast
The Problem With Jon Stewart
The Black Lives Matter movement has forced some white people to realize the extent of systemic racism within society.
04:22 - 07:23 (03:00)
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Black Lives Matter
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The Black Lives Matter movement has forced some white people to realize the extent of systemic racism within society. Many have been shocked by the scale of protests and are finally starting to listen to the voices of black Americans.

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America’s Caste System With Isabel Wilkerson
Podcast
The Problem With Jon Stewart
Chris Hayes speaks with Isabel Wilkerson about her new book "Caste" where she examines the laws and practices that created a bipolar caste system and how the shape of this country's democracy flows from its roots.
07:23 - 12:01 (04:38)
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Isabel Wilkerson
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Chris Hayes speaks with Isabel Wilkerson about her new book "Caste" where she examines the laws and practices that created a bipolar caste system and how the shape of this country's democracy flows from its roots.

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America’s Caste System With Isabel Wilkerson
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The Problem With Jon Stewart
The hierarchical system implemented in America since the 17th century has put primarily British people on the top, followed by people who look like them, and enslaved people on the very bottom.
12:01 - 26:36 (14:34)
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Systematic Oppression
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The hierarchical system implemented in America since the 17th century has put primarily British people on the top, followed by people who look like them, and enslaved people on the very bottom. Through a series of systemic segregation policies, like the water segregation, the country has oppressed Black people and Native Americans.

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America’s Caste System With Isabel Wilkerson
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The Problem With Jon Stewart
The idea of dominant group status threat is explored as a contributor to the crisis that arises when those who have been historically oppressed begin to rise up, and how this intersects with the projected demographic shift in the United States in 2042, which could displace the historic majority.
26:36 - 34:12 (07:36)
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Dominance, demographic shift
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The idea of dominant group status threat is explored as a contributor to the crisis that arises when those who have been historically oppressed begin to rise up, and how this intersects with the projected demographic shift in the United States in 2042, which could displace the historic majority.

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America’s Caste System With Isabel Wilkerson
Podcast
The Problem With Jon Stewart
The unconscious biases of supposedly fair and just liberals are exacerbating conflicts and making it harder to move past entrenched feelings, resulting in further endangerment and exclusion of marginalized groups.
34:12 - 42:45 (08:32)
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unconscious biases
Summary

The unconscious biases of supposedly fair and just liberals are exacerbating conflicts and making it harder to move past entrenched feelings, resulting in further endangerment and exclusion of marginalized groups. To move towards equity and equality, we must recognize and fill in for our unconscious biases and acknowledge that the struggle for African Americans to be mainstreamed into society is still in its adolescence.

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America’s Caste System With Isabel Wilkerson
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The Problem With Jon Stewart
The lack of generosity and magnanimity towards fellow citizens in the US is a result of a caste system that pit people against one another.
42:45 - 48:44 (05:58)
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History
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The lack of generosity and magnanimity towards fellow citizens in the US is a result of a caste system that pit people against one another. Recognizing and learning from the true history of the nation is necessary for the well-being of the entire country.

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America’s Caste System With Isabel Wilkerson
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The Problem With Jon Stewart
In this podcast, the speaker shares personal stories about racial integration from her own life and from a book she read that includes stories of racism faced by African Americans.
48:44 - 51:56 (03:12)
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Racism
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In this podcast, the speaker shares personal stories about racial integration from her own life and from a book she read that includes stories of racism faced by African Americans.

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America’s Caste System With Isabel Wilkerson
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The Problem With Jon Stewart
The year 2050 and the idea of becoming a minority has been turned into a negative and has been mythologized as a doomsday clock for white people.
51:56 - 57:08 (05:12)
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Caste System
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The year 2050 and the idea of becoming a minority has been turned into a negative and has been mythologized as a doomsday clock for white people. The breakdown of the caste system was facilitated by a divine reason and the introduction of mythology and otherworldly power.

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America’s Caste System With Isabel Wilkerson
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The Problem With Jon Stewart
The hosts are taking a break and will drop some bonus episodes in the coming weeks.
57:08 - 59:57 (02:49)
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Podcasting
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The hosts are taking a break and will drop some bonus episodes in the coming weeks. They also encourage listeners to share their feedback on their Twitter page.

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America’s Caste System With Isabel Wilkerson
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The Problem With Jon Stewart