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#104: Are Psychedelic Drugs the Next Medical Breakthrough?
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1:50:33
Published: Mon Sep 14 2015
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Martin Polanco (@Martin_Polanco7), M.D., is the founder and program director of Crossroads Treatment Center, based in Rosarito, Mexico. Crossroads specializes in helping patients conquer powerful addictions (heroin, cocaine, etc.) by using the African hallucinogen ibogaine and 5-MeO-DMT, also referred to as “the God molecule.” Martin's areas of expertise also include addiction medicine and therapeutic neurotechnologies. Dan Engle (@drdanengle), M.D., is a psychiatrist and neurologist, who combines functional medicine with integrative psychiatry to enhance regenerative health and peak performance. His prior and relevant experience includes traumatic brain injury (TBI) and working in the Peruvian jungle with plant medicines such as ayahuasca. In this episode, we step outside the lines of traditional medicine to discuss impulse control, introspection, and self-awareness through the use of powerful psychedelic and hallucinogenic agents like iboga, ibogaine and 5-MeO-DMT. We also discuss flotation tanks, which can simulate or even replicate many of the benefits that can result from the use of psychedelic and psychotropic agents. So you don't have to be willing to experiment with these medicines to receive something valuable from this episode. If you are interested in optimizing your psychological performance, emotional control and exploring alternative medicine, then this episode is for you. Enjoy! Show notes and links for this episode can be found at www.fourhourworkweek.com/podcast. 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Tim Ferriss talks about his popular email newsletter, 5 Bullet Friday, which sends out short emails every Friday containing the coolest finds of the week, requested by podcast listeners and readers alike.
00:00 - 01:27 (01:27)
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newsletter
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Tim Ferriss talks about his popular email newsletter, 5 Bullet Friday, which sends out short emails every Friday containing the coolest finds of the week, requested by podcast listeners and readers alike.

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#104: Are Psychedelic Drugs the Next Medical Breakthrough?
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Two doctors are discussing their innovative approach to combining functional medicine with integrative psychiatry, which enhances regenerative health for trauma-induced brain injuries and peak performance, even in normal subjects.
01:27 - 07:03 (05:36)
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Health
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Two doctors are discussing their innovative approach to combining functional medicine with integrative psychiatry, which enhances regenerative health for trauma-induced brain injuries and peak performance, even in normal subjects. However, an ad for Athletic Greens interrupts the discussion and offers a special package.

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#104: Are Psychedelic Drugs the Next Medical Breakthrough?
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Medical doctor discusses the use of psychedelics, specifically ibogaine, for treating drug addiction, mental health, and traumatic brain injury.
07:03 - 10:09 (03:05)
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Psychedelics
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Medical doctor discusses the use of psychedelics, specifically ibogaine, for treating drug addiction, mental health, and traumatic brain injury.

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#104: Are Psychedelic Drugs the Next Medical Breakthrough?
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Ibogaine, a psychedelic drug found in West Africa, has been found to be effective in treating addiction.
10:09 - 13:01 (02:52)
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Ibogaine
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Ibogaine, a psychedelic drug found in West Africa, has been found to be effective in treating addiction. Clinical research supports the claims and many people have found success in overcoming addiction after taking it.

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#104: Are Psychedelic Drugs the Next Medical Breakthrough?
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The roots of addiction can often be traced back to early developmental traumas and our genetic makeup.
13:01 - 17:49 (04:47)
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Addiction
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The roots of addiction can often be traced back to early developmental traumas and our genetic makeup. Although it is possible to heal these traumas, it can be a difficult process to consistently track and work through.

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#104: Are Psychedelic Drugs the Next Medical Breakthrough?
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In this podcast, a discussion is held regarding Ibogaine and Ayahuasca, examining their differences and similarities including their roles in treating addiction and mental health.
17:49 - 28:14 (10:24)
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Ayahuasca and Ibogaine.
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In this podcast, a discussion is held regarding Ibogaine and Ayahuasca, examining their differences and similarities including their roles in treating addiction and mental health.

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#104: Are Psychedelic Drugs the Next Medical Breakthrough?
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The speaker discusses the immediate healing potential he experienced with ayahuasca, and the importance of data and studies in understanding the nuances of plant medicines.
28:14 - 34:25 (06:11)
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Plant Medicines
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The speaker discusses the immediate healing potential he experienced with ayahuasca, and the importance of data and studies in understanding the nuances of plant medicines. He also explains how plant medicines like iboga can increase awareness and focus, but can also cause insomnia due to the stimulative effect on the central nervous system.

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#104: Are Psychedelic Drugs the Next Medical Breakthrough?
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Proper preparation is key to safely transitioning off of psychiatric medication and having a successful experience with ayahuasca, but it is important to approach the medicine with respect and treat it like a serious decision.
34:25 - 41:44 (07:18)
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Psychedelics
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Proper preparation is key to safely transitioning off of psychiatric medication and having a successful experience with ayahuasca, but it is important to approach the medicine with respect and treat it like a serious decision.

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#104: Are Psychedelic Drugs the Next Medical Breakthrough?
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The Multidisciplinary Association of Psychedelic Studies (MAPS) and the International Center for Ethnobotanical Education, Research & Service (ICEERS) are suggested as valuable resources for those interested in learning more about psychedelics and addiction recovery.
41:44 - 49:59 (08:14)
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Psychedelics, Addiction Recovery
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The Multidisciplinary Association of Psychedelic Studies (MAPS) and the International Center for Ethnobotanical Education, Research & Service (ICEERS) are suggested as valuable resources for those interested in learning more about psychedelics and addiction recovery. Ibogaine is an opiate-specific treatment that has a complex pharmacology, addressing multiple levels of addiction beyond just physical withdrawal symptoms.

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#104: Are Psychedelic Drugs the Next Medical Breakthrough?
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Five Meo DMT is a naturally occurring compound found in certain plants and the venom of the Sonoran Desert toad which can induce mystical experiences, making it useful in drug addiction treatment.
50:00 - 1:00:21 (10:20)
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Addiction Treatment
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Five Meo DMT is a naturally occurring compound found in certain plants and the venom of the Sonoran Desert toad which can induce mystical experiences, making it useful in drug addiction treatment. When used in combination with Ibogaine, it can have a profound effect on patients who realize they are indestructible and divine beings, making it hard to continue using drugs.

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#104: Are Psychedelic Drugs the Next Medical Breakthrough?
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While Ayahuasca offers a slower, more conscious process for healing traumas, 5-MeO-DMT provides quicker but subconscious healing.
1:00:21 - 1:08:07 (07:45)
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Psychedelic drugs
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While Ayahuasca offers a slower, more conscious process for healing traumas, 5-MeO-DMT provides quicker but subconscious healing. Psilocybin is another orally active DMT that can offer spiritual experiences without expectations.

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#104: Are Psychedelic Drugs the Next Medical Breakthrough?
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Martin and Dan discuss the significance of preparation, integration work, and post-work surrounding psychedelic medicine, such as ayahuasca and iboga.
1:08:07 - 1:12:56 (04:49)
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Psychedelic Medicine
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Martin and Dan discuss the significance of preparation, integration work, and post-work surrounding psychedelic medicine, such as ayahuasca and iboga. While Martin believes that lack of preparation and post-work renders the medicine ineffective, Dan emphasizes the importance of integration work, which he sees as the critical component in this system as it becomes more accessible.

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#104: Are Psychedelic Drugs the Next Medical Breakthrough?
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The use of plant medicines, such as psilocybin and ibogaine, have shown to have positive effects on mental health and trauma, including reduction in symptoms of PTSD and resolution of opiate addiction in war veterans.
1:12:56 - 1:25:55 (12:58)
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Plant Medicines
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The use of plant medicines, such as psilocybin and ibogaine, have shown to have positive effects on mental health and trauma, including reduction in symptoms of PTSD and resolution of opiate addiction in war veterans. These plant medicines stimulate neurogenesis and upregulate neurochemistry, producing a healing effect in the brain.

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In this podcast, the hosts discuss their mentors and book recommendations as gifts.
1:25:55 - 1:32:34 (06:39)
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Book Recommendations
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In this podcast, the hosts discuss their mentors and book recommendations as gifts. Topics include choosing one's own mindset in any given circumstance, introducing someone to psychedelics, and books about relationships.

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Flotation therapy can be an extraordinary psychedelic arena that can bring a deeper connection with oneself.
1:32:35 - 1:40:09 (07:34)
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Flotation Therapy
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Flotation therapy can be an extraordinary psychedelic arena that can bring a deeper connection with oneself. While not everyone may be interested in psychedelics, flotation therapy can be more accessible and reach a wider audience.

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#104: Are Psychedelic Drugs the Next Medical Breakthrough?
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The majority of people would see a significant benefit from doing flotation tanks two to three times a week for three to four weeks, with sessions lasting for one to two hours.
1:40:09 - 1:47:42 (07:33)
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Flotation Tanks
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The majority of people would see a significant benefit from doing flotation tanks two to three times a week for three to four weeks, with sessions lasting for one to two hours. Flotation tanks can help alleviate anxiety, reduce cortisol levels, and have numerous mental and physical benefits.

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In the closing remarks, the speakers invite listeners to join the conversation and check out everything discussed in the podcast.
1:47:42 - 1:50:29 (02:46)
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In the closing remarks, the speakers invite listeners to join the conversation and check out everything discussed in the podcast. Contact information for the speakers is provided, and they also mention a weekly email that listeners can subscribe to for more content.

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#104: Are Psychedelic Drugs the Next Medical Breakthrough?
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