Episode

#135 – Charles Isbell: Computing, Interactive AI, and Race in America
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2:28:42
Published: Mon Nov 02 2020
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Charles Isbell is the Dean of the College of Computing at Georgia Tech. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: - Neuro: https://www.getneuro.com and use code LEX to get 15% off - Decoding Digital: https://appdirect.com/decoding-digital - MasterClass: https://masterclass.com/lex to get 15% off annual sub - Cash App: https://cash.app/ and use code LexPodcast to get $10 EPISODE LINKS: Charles's Twitter: https://twitter.com/isbellHFh Charles's Website: https://www.cc.gatech.edu/~isbell/ PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: - Check out the sponsors above, it's the best way to support this podcast - Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman - Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LexFridmanPage - Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here's the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) - Introduction (07:16) - Top 3 movies of all time (13:26) - People are easily predictable (19:08) - Breaking out of our bubbles (30:54) - Interactive AI (37:26) - Lifelong machine learning (45:53) - Faculty hiring (53:27) - University rankings (1:00:55) - Science communicators (1:10:20) - Hip hop (1:19:20) - Funk (1:20:44) - Computing (1:36:35) - Race (1:52:40) - Cop story (2:01:01) - Racial tensions (2:10:23) - MLK vs Malcolm X (2:13:44) - Will human civilization destroy itself? (2:18:14) - Fear of death and the passing of time

Chapters
The podcast may include conversations with individuals in the cryptocurrency field, examining the technical and business aspects of the industry while observing the balance between the many "charlatans" and "technical geniuses."
00:00 - 07:39 (07:39)
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Cryptocurrency
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The podcast may include conversations with individuals in the cryptocurrency field, examining the technical and business aspects of the industry while observing the balance between the many "charlatans" and "technical geniuses."

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In this episode, Malcolm Gladwell recommends his favorite movies to viewers, including Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, John Wick, His Girl Friday, and Nothing But a Man.
07:39 - 13:26 (05:47)
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movies
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In this episode, Malcolm Gladwell recommends his favorite movies to viewers, including Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, John Wick, His Girl Friday, and Nothing But a Man.

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This podcast explores the possibility of AI systems in large networks of people getting us outside of our habits and allowing us to be empathetic to other people's views and experiences.
13:26 - 22:15 (08:49)
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AI and Social Media
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This podcast explores the possibility of AI systems in large networks of people getting us outside of our habits and allowing us to be empathetic to other people's views and experiences. The discussion centers around representing people or objects through the things they do and how this can help break us out of social media silos.

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AI can help people understand empathy by learning the language and actions of others, putting themselves in their shoes and gaining an understanding of their experiences.
22:15 - 30:48 (08:32)
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AI
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AI can help people understand empathy by learning the language and actions of others, putting themselves in their shoes and gaining an understanding of their experiences.

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The intelligence of humans involves being able to interact with others while machine learning is more focused on engineering solutions.
30:48 - 36:46 (05:58)
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Machine Intelligence
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The intelligence of humans involves being able to interact with others while machine learning is more focused on engineering solutions. Machine learning is generally seen as statistical rather than interactive.

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Artificial intelligence systems are incapable of lifelong learning and don't possess the temporal richness of humans, which makes it difficult for them to learn as humans do.
36:46 - 41:07 (04:20)
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Artificial Intelligence
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Artificial intelligence systems are incapable of lifelong learning and don't possess the temporal richness of humans, which makes it difficult for them to learn as humans do. Additionally, the machine learning community tends to be very task-focused, which limits their ability to develop more sophisticated AI systems.

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The speaker discusses the potential of machine learning and AI algorithms to learn from chaos by living out in the real world and interacting with its surroundings, rather than simply refining existing algorithms through repeated experimentation.
41:07 - 49:04 (07:57)
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Machine Learning/AI
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The speaker discusses the potential of machine learning and AI algorithms to learn from chaos by living out in the real world and interacting with its surroundings, rather than simply refining existing algorithms through repeated experimentation.

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This transcript discusses the college admissions process, and how machine learning can be used to make predictions, showing that colleges tend to admit those from higher ranked schools and only a select few from schools ranked lower.
49:04 - 55:33 (06:29)
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College admissions
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This transcript discusses the college admissions process, and how machine learning can be used to make predictions, showing that colleges tend to admit those from higher ranked schools and only a select few from schools ranked lower.

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The history of camera technology not working for dark skin people until the 1970s, along with the lack of objective and measurable facts, highlights the importance of inclusivity and diversity in fields like technology and education.
55:33 - 1:00:16 (04:42)
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Technology
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The history of camera technology not working for dark skin people until the 1970s, along with the lack of objective and measurable facts, highlights the importance of inclusivity and diversity in fields like technology and education.

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The speaker advocates for academics to diversify their ways of communicating scientific ideas and to engage with the public.
1:00:16 - 1:06:47 (06:30)
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Academic Communication
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The speaker advocates for academics to diversify their ways of communicating scientific ideas and to engage with the public. He believes that great universities should relate to the world beyond academia, and that part of our job is to impact people who are not in our sphere.

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Rodney Brooks, former head of the AI lab at MIT and founder of iRobot, explains that the "P" in AI stands for probabilistic, emphasizing the importance of randomness and uncertainty in machine learning.
1:06:47 - 1:10:15 (03:28)
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AI
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Rodney Brooks, former head of the AI lab at MIT and founder of iRobot, explains that the "P" in AI stands for probabilistic, emphasizing the importance of randomness and uncertainty in machine learning.

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Learn about the history and roots of hip hop music, including its connection to other music genres and the fusion of classic rock and funk beats into modern hip hop music.
1:10:15 - 1:17:17 (07:02)
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Hip Hop Music
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Learn about the history and roots of hip hop music, including its connection to other music genres and the fusion of classic rock and funk beats into modern hip hop music. Discover must-listen records and artists, including the best-produced hip hop album " It takes a nation of millions to hold us back".

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The podcaster discusses the importance of political and protest songs in music history, from Little Richard to Public Enemy, and expresses concern about the lack of deep, meaningful lyrics in modern music.
1:17:17 - 1:20:31 (03:14)
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Music
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The podcaster discusses the importance of political and protest songs in music history, from Little Richard to Public Enemy, and expresses concern about the lack of deep, meaningful lyrics in modern music.

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This podcast talks about the importance of understanding data science and computing in different fields of study such as history and biology, and how it helps us to analyze data to better understand the world.
1:20:31 - 1:29:50 (09:18)
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Data Science
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This podcast talks about the importance of understanding data science and computing in different fields of study such as history and biology, and how it helps us to analyze data to better understand the world.

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The way we communicate and consume information through social media may lead to history becoming a niche field that only a few people will be interested in, leaving it to become a theoretical computer science part of computer science.
1:29:50 - 1:36:46 (06:55)
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History
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The way we communicate and consume information through social media may lead to history becoming a niche field that only a few people will be interested in, leaving it to become a theoretical computer science part of computer science.

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The speaker shares his experiences of growing up in a deeply segregated Atlanta in the seventies and eighties, divided by highways and class, where he learned about race through his first-grade interracial relationship.
1:36:46 - 1:40:27 (03:40)
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Atlanta
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The speaker shares his experiences of growing up in a deeply segregated Atlanta in the seventies and eighties, divided by highways and class, where he learned about race through his first-grade interracial relationship.

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In this segment, the absurdity of not having a local radio station playing Black music was highlighted, as well as the lack of representation in certain spaces despite being in a predominantly Black city.
1:40:27 - 1:47:27 (07:00)
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Atlanta
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In this segment, the absurdity of not having a local radio station playing Black music was highlighted, as well as the lack of representation in certain spaces despite being in a predominantly Black city.

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The speaker reflects on how to overcome jealousy, hatred and discrimination as an individual in institutions like Georgia Tech and MIT by staying positive, feeling empowered and confident.
1:47:27 - 1:52:09 (04:42)
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Overcoming Institutional Prejudice
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The speaker reflects on how to overcome jealousy, hatred and discrimination as an individual in institutions like Georgia Tech and MIT by staying positive, feeling empowered and confident. Little forces of hatred can be overcome by creating a critical mass of students and faculty that want to make sure the right thing is done in institutions.

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Creating structures that allow people to have individual conversations in a safe space is necessary in order to promote understanding between diverse experiences.
1:52:09 - 2:02:37 (10:27)
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Conversations
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Creating structures that allow people to have individual conversations in a safe space is necessary in order to promote understanding between diverse experiences. It is important to challenge oneself to recognize the differences in people and not forget that ultimately we are all similar.

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The mechanisms that put injustice in front of us are the same mechanisms that bring about change, despite the issue being longstanding.
2:02:37 - 2:09:03 (06:26)
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social justice
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The mechanisms that put injustice in front of us are the same mechanisms that bring about change, despite the issue being longstanding.

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The speaker argues that all change - particularly change that affects power - requires struggle.
2:09:03 - 2:14:46 (05:43)
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Change
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The speaker argues that all change - particularly change that affects power - requires struggle. He gives the example of the civil rights movement and how the advent of television helped to facilitate change.

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The importance of leaving a positive legacy for future generations and drawing inspiration from lesser-known historical figures to make positive change is discussed.
2:14:46 - 2:20:47 (06:00)
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Legacy
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The importance of leaving a positive legacy for future generations and drawing inspiration from lesser-known historical figures to make positive change is discussed.

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The speaker talks about his experience in the hospital and how he ended up there, warning against going to the doctor unless absolutely necessary.
2:20:47 - 2:26:09 (05:21)
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Health
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The speaker talks about his experience in the hospital and how he ended up there, warning against going to the doctor unless absolutely necessary.

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In this conversation, Charles Isbell discusses losing his father, growing up during the Civil Rights Movement, and his philosophy on life, including the concept that the universe is composed entirely of others.
2:26:09 - 2:28:37 (02:28)
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Charles Isbell
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In this conversation, Charles Isbell discusses losing his father, growing up during the Civil Rights Movement, and his philosophy on life, including the concept that the universe is composed entirely of others.

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