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Daniel Kahneman: Thinking Fast and Slow, Deep Learning, and AI
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1:19:09
Published: Tue Jan 14 2020
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Daniel Kahneman is winner of the Nobel Prize in economics for his integration of economic science with the psychology of human behavior, judgment and decision-making. He is the author of the popular book "Thinking, Fast and Slow" that summarizes in an accessible way his research of several decades, often in collaboration with Amos Tversky, on cognitive biases, prospect theory, and happiness. The central thesis of this work is a dichotomy between two modes of thought: "System 1" is fast, instinctive and emotional; "System 2" is slower, more deliberative, and more logical. The book delineates cognitive biases associated with each type of thinking. This conversation is part of the Artificial Intelligence podcast. If you would like to get more information about this podcast go to https://lexfridman.com/ai or connect with @lexfridman on Twitter, LinkedIn, Facebook, Medium, or YouTube where you can watch the video versions of these conversations. If you enjoy the podcast, please rate it 5 stars on Apple Podcasts, follow on Spotify, or support it on Patreon. This episode is presented by Cash App. Download it (App Store, Google Play), use code "LexPodcast".  Here's the outline of the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. 00:00 - Introduction 02:36 - Lessons about human behavior from WWII 08:19 - System 1 and system 2: thinking fast and slow 15:17 - Deep learning 30:01 - How hard is autonomous driving? 35:59 - Explainability in AI and humans 40:08 - Experiencing self and the remembering self 51:58 - Man's Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl 54:46 - How much of human behavior can we study in the lab? 57:57 - Collaboration 1:01:09 - Replication crisis in psychology 1:09:28 - Disagreements and controversies in psychology 1:13:01 - Test for AGI 1:16:17 - Meaning of life

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00:00 - 02:32 (02:32)
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Cash App
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Use the code LexPodcast to download Cash App and get $10 with a $10 donation to FIRST, an organization inspiring kids in engineering. Daniel Kahneman, author of "Thinking Fast and Slow", also supports FIRST.

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Daniel Kahneman: Thinking Fast and Slow, Deep Learning, and AI
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War brings out both the darker and the more beautiful aspects of human nature, such as the ability to dehumanize others and to demonstrate great acts of kindness and humanity towards others.
02:32 - 08:23 (05:51)
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Human Nature
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War brings out both the darker and the more beautiful aspects of human nature, such as the ability to dehumanize others and to demonstrate great acts of kindness and humanity towards others.

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Daniel Kahneman: Thinking Fast and Slow, Deep Learning, and AI
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The current state of deep learning leans more towards being a System 1 product compared to a System 2 product, according to renowned psychologist and economist, Daniel Kahneman.
08:23 - 19:21 (10:58)
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Deep Learning
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The current state of deep learning leans more towards being a System 1 product compared to a System 2 product, according to renowned psychologist and economist, Daniel Kahneman. While System 2 requires mental effort and has limited capacity, System 1 is effortless and predicts the world based on anticipation.

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Daniel Kahneman: Thinking Fast and Slow, Deep Learning, and AI
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Experts believe that mimicking human perception is essential for building knowledge about the world, but there is still uncertainty about the limits of neural networks.
19:22 - 30:40 (11:17)
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Neural Networks
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Experts believe that mimicking human perception is essential for building knowledge about the world, but there is still uncertainty about the limits of neural networks. While some believe that neural networks will start to look like 'System 2' without significant transformation of the architecture, others are more realistic and acknowledge that there is still much work to be done.

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Daniel Kahneman: Thinking Fast and Slow, Deep Learning, and AI
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The podcast discusses the potential for current neural networks, which are comparable to human system one thinking, to collaborate with humans for system two type tasks.
30:40 - 38:28 (07:47)
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Artificial Intelligence
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The podcast discusses the potential for current neural networks, which are comparable to human system one thinking, to collaborate with humans for system two type tasks. The aim is to determine whether or not humans will become redundant in systems that involve the interaction between humans and AI.

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Daniel Kahneman: Thinking Fast and Slow, Deep Learning, and AI
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The experienced self and the remembering self have different criteria for happiness, creating a paradox as we have one self that does the living, but the other self, the remembering self, is all we get to keep.
38:28 - 45:48 (07:20)
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Happiness
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The experienced self and the remembering self have different criteria for happiness, creating a paradox as we have one self that does the living, but the other self, the remembering self, is all we get to keep.

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In a world where people are obsessed with scoring and sharing their experiences, letting go of the need for validation from others and focusing on the present moment could lead to greater contentment and happiness.
45:48 - 51:54 (06:05)
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mindfulness
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In a world where people are obsessed with scoring and sharing their experiences, letting go of the need for validation from others and focusing on the present moment could lead to greater contentment and happiness. This concept is echoed in Buddhism philosophy.

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Victor Frankel's Man's Search for Meaning describes how identifying a positive purpose in life can save one from suffering during tough times.
51:54 - 1:00:40 (08:46)
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Purpose
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Victor Frankel's Man's Search for Meaning describes how identifying a positive purpose in life can save one from suffering during tough times. Taking care of children is also said to make a big difference in one's well-being because of the story we tell ourselves about it.

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Researchers must trust their intuitions less and must pre-register and commit to serious public experimentation to ensure replicability and accuracy in research, especially for weak effects.
1:00:40 - 1:14:08 (13:27)
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Research
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Researchers must trust their intuitions less and must pre-register and commit to serious public experimentation to ensure replicability and accuracy in research, especially for weak effects.

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The podcast discusses the creation of human or superhuman level intelligence systems and the challenges of achieving general purpose intelligence.
1:14:08 - 1:18:45 (04:37)
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Artificial Intelligence
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The podcast discusses the creation of human or superhuman level intelligence systems and the challenges of achieving general purpose intelligence.

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Daniel Kahneman: Thinking Fast and Slow, Deep Learning, and AI
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Lex Fridman Podcast