Episode
#8 Eddie Gallagher - Retired Navy SEAL Tried for Murder
5:31:41
Published: Wed Dec 23 2020
Description
Chief Special Operator Eddie Gallagher is without a doubt the most controversial Navy SEALs of modern day history, and quite possibly in the entire history of Naval Special Warfare. Shawn Ryan Show #008 Chief Gallagher explains in depth how teammates under his command at SEAL Team 7 not only accused him of being a war criminal, but relentlessly tried to send him away to life in prison for the alleged murder of an ISIS fighter in Mosul, Iraq. Eddie walks us through his version on what seemed to be the entire Naval Special Warfare community continuously attempting to take his rank, strip him of his SEAL Trident, and ravage his reputation even after proven innocent. His wife Andrea and son Ryan share their first hand accounts of how the NCIS raided their home and strategically wreaked havoc on their family. Keep up to date with Eddie Gallagher's book release date, The Pipe Hitter's Foundation, and Social Media here ⬇️ https://theeddiegallagher.com https://pipehitterfoundation.org Vigilance Elite/Shawn Ryan Links: Website - https://www.shawnryanshow.com Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/VigilanceElite TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@shawnryanshow Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/shawnryan762 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapters
Sean Ryan thanks his patrons and encourages listeners to check out Vigilance Elite Patreon for tactical training, while also asking for one-word reviews on iTunes to help spread the show.
00:00 - 01:19 (01:19)
Summary
Sean Ryan thanks his patrons and encourages listeners to check out Vigilance Elite Patreon for tactical training, while also asking for one-word reviews on iTunes to help spread the show.
Episode#8 Eddie Gallagher - Retired Navy SEAL Tried for Murder
PodcastShawn Ryan Show
The transcript talks about a SEAL team member who is regarded as the most controversial name in their team's history, with President Trump having stepped twice into the case.
01:20 - 04:38 (03:18)
Summary
The transcript talks about a SEAL team member who is regarded as the most controversial name in their team's history, with President Trump having stepped twice into the case. Furthermore, the member's fame in the media due to the 2020 election cycle and the country's division has unintentionally made the person a public figure.
Episode#8 Eddie Gallagher - Retired Navy SEAL Tried for Murder
PodcastShawn Ryan Show
Navy SEAL Eddie Gallagher is set to release his new book in the first quarter of 2021 and is offering a pre-order bundle that includes a challenge coin and a note from himself and his wife, Andrea.
04:38 - 07:56 (03:18)
Summary
Navy SEAL Eddie Gallagher is set to release his new book in the first quarter of 2021 and is offering a pre-order bundle that includes a challenge coin and a note from himself and his wife, Andrea. The exclusive bundle is available on his website, eddygallagherbook.com.
Episode#8 Eddie Gallagher - Retired Navy SEAL Tried for Murder
PodcastShawn Ryan Show
A former SEAL member recalls the story of how he turned around the worst-rated platoon into the most effective and highest-rated team in just a year and a half, and how he chose to stay as the platoon chief, despite being offered a different position.
07:56 - 14:56 (07:00)
Summary
A former SEAL member recalls the story of how he turned around the worst-rated platoon into the most effective and highest-rated team in just a year and a half, and how he chose to stay as the platoon chief, despite being offered a different position.
Episode#8 Eddie Gallagher - Retired Navy SEAL Tried for Murder
PodcastShawn Ryan Show
The first platoon to come through from a team is typically a mess as they are figuring things out.
14:56 - 19:27 (04:30)
Summary
The first platoon to come through from a team is typically a mess as they are figuring things out. However, the platoon leader mentioned that this particular platoon was good to go from the start.
Episode#8 Eddie Gallagher - Retired Navy SEAL Tried for Murder
PodcastShawn Ryan Show
The introduction of constructive criticism led to improved team performance and humbled some members who initially resisted it.
19:27 - 22:22 (02:55)
Summary
The introduction of constructive criticism led to improved team performance and humbled some members who initially resisted it.
Episode#8 Eddie Gallagher - Retired Navy SEAL Tried for Murder
PodcastShawn Ryan Show
The speaker describes the difficult living conditions during a deployment, which left some of the soldiers frustrated and questioning why they signed up in the first place.
22:22 - 30:47 (08:25)
Summary
The speaker describes the difficult living conditions during a deployment, which left some of the soldiers frustrated and questioning why they signed up in the first place.
Episode#8 Eddie Gallagher - Retired Navy SEAL Tried for Murder
PodcastShawn Ryan Show
This podcast episode discusses how the ERD coordinated with the front lines in combat zones through a tax carrying system, beacons and real-time drone feed to have better awareness of the positions of their troops in real-time.
30:47 - 37:46 (06:59)
Summary
This podcast episode discusses how the ERD coordinated with the front lines in combat zones through a tax carrying system, beacons and real-time drone feed to have better awareness of the positions of their troops in real-time.
Episode#8 Eddie Gallagher - Retired Navy SEAL Tried for Murder
PodcastShawn Ryan Show
The speaker describes the dangers and frequency of mortar attacks while on patrol in combat zones, leading to a decision to limit their time outside to avoid unnecessary risks.
37:46 - 41:51 (04:05)
Summary
The speaker describes the dangers and frequency of mortar attacks while on patrol in combat zones, leading to a decision to limit their time outside to avoid unnecessary risks.
Episode#8 Eddie Gallagher - Retired Navy SEAL Tried for Murder
PodcastShawn Ryan Show
The speaker describes an officer who was unique in his receptive and collaborative approach to managing crime in the city, implementing tactics that led to success without resorting to extreme measures such as bombing blocks.
41:51 - 46:48 (04:57)
Summary
The speaker describes an officer who was unique in his receptive and collaborative approach to managing crime in the city, implementing tactics that led to success without resorting to extreme measures such as bombing blocks.
Episode#8 Eddie Gallagher - Retired Navy SEAL Tried for Murder
PodcastShawn Ryan Show
The speaker describes the difficulty of fighting ISIS in old Mosul, the oldest city in the area, which was heavily fortified like a beehive.
46:48 - 53:13 (06:24)
Summary
The speaker describes the difficulty of fighting ISIS in old Mosul, the oldest city in the area, which was heavily fortified like a beehive. The speaker and their forces had to head north since partner forces would not go any farther.
Episode#8 Eddie Gallagher - Retired Navy SEAL Tried for Murder
PodcastShawn Ryan Show
The speaker recounts the horrific tactical methods used by ISIS in warfare such as sending hordes of women and children towards the opposite forces to draw them out and then mowing them down halfway or using a field as a buffer to shoot at the opposing forces from 800,000 meters away.
53:13 - 58:56 (05:42)
Summary
The speaker recounts the horrific tactical methods used by ISIS in warfare such as sending hordes of women and children towards the opposite forces to draw them out and then mowing them down halfway or using a field as a buffer to shoot at the opposing forces from 800,000 meters away.
Episode#8 Eddie Gallagher - Retired Navy SEAL Tried for Murder
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The speaker reflects on the media's attempt to empathize with ISIS fighters, expressing his disagreement and the complexities of war.
58:56 - 1:02:50 (03:54)
Summary
The speaker reflects on the media's attempt to empathize with ISIS fighters, expressing his disagreement and the complexities of war.
Episode#8 Eddie Gallagher - Retired Navy SEAL Tried for Murder
PodcastShawn Ryan Show
An eyewitness recalls the situation in a war zone where they didn't want to be in pictures but did not feel harassed by the photographers.
1:02:50 - 1:08:51 (06:00)
Summary
An eyewitness recalls the situation in a war zone where they didn't want to be in pictures but did not feel harassed by the photographers.
Episode#8 Eddie Gallagher - Retired Navy SEAL Tried for Murder
PodcastShawn Ryan Show
The speaker talks about how body language can be a tell-tale sign of people's feelings towards you, as well as playing drone games like bouncing it off their body.
1:08:51 - 1:15:07 (06:16)
Summary
The speaker talks about how body language can be a tell-tale sign of people's feelings towards you, as well as playing drone games like bouncing it off their body.
Episode#8 Eddie Gallagher - Retired Navy SEAL Tried for Murder
PodcastShawn Ryan Show
The speaker discusses a time when he took a break from combat, allowing his team to decompress before going back home and giving them a chance to work on themselves and refit.
1:15:07 - 1:21:29 (06:22)
Summary
The speaker discusses a time when he took a break from combat, allowing his team to decompress before going back home and giving them a chance to work on themselves and refit.
Episode#8 Eddie Gallagher - Retired Navy SEAL Tried for Murder
PodcastShawn Ryan Show
A chief shares his experience of dealing with a petty drama on a deployment where a sailor was texting talking shit about his chief, and he had to punish him by making him do supply runs for a week.
1:21:29 - 1:27:51 (06:22)
Summary
A chief shares his experience of dealing with a petty drama on a deployment where a sailor was texting talking shit about his chief, and he had to punish him by making him do supply runs for a week.
Episode#8 Eddie Gallagher - Retired Navy SEAL Tried for Murder
PodcastShawn Ryan Show
A soldier shares how his comrades in the army turned on him when he left for a flight, using fake pictures to paint him as a traitor and stir up drama.
1:27:51 - 1:33:46 (05:55)
Summary
A soldier shares how his comrades in the army turned on him when he left for a flight, using fake pictures to paint him as a traitor and stir up drama.
Episode#8 Eddie Gallagher - Retired Navy SEAL Tried for Murder
PodcastShawn Ryan Show
A transcript of a conversation with no clear topic or direction, filled with casual language and no coherent structure.
1:33:46 - 1:38:07 (04:21)
Summary
A transcript of a conversation with no clear topic or direction, filled with casual language and no coherent structure.
Episode#8 Eddie Gallagher - Retired Navy SEAL Tried for Murder
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The speaker advises his listeners to take some time to decompress and chill out to avoid burnout.
1:38:07 - 1:42:05 (03:58)
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The speaker advises his listeners to take some time to decompress and chill out to avoid burnout.
Episode#8 Eddie Gallagher - Retired Navy SEAL Tried for Murder
PodcastShawn Ryan Show
The speaker struggles to answer questions based on how they were previously perceived, and describes an incident where a higher-ranking individual encouraged a situation instead of addressing it.
1:42:05 - 1:48:19 (06:14)
Summary
The speaker struggles to answer questions based on how they were previously perceived, and describes an incident where a higher-ranking individual encouraged a situation instead of addressing it.
Episode#8 Eddie Gallagher - Retired Navy SEAL Tried for Murder
PodcastShawn Ryan Show
The actions of a few individuals shouldn't dictate how an entire community feels about an issue.
1:48:19 - 1:58:11 (09:52)
Summary
The actions of a few individuals shouldn't dictate how an entire community feels about an issue. Excuses can be made for the actions, but they don't excuse the behavior.
Episode#8 Eddie Gallagher - Retired Navy SEAL Tried for Murder
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The speaker talks about transitioning from military to civilian life, going to a transition program, and putting in for Intrepid Spear.
1:58:11 - 2:02:06 (03:55)
Summary
The speaker talks about transitioning from military to civilian life, going to a transition program, and putting in for Intrepid Spear. He mentions not trusting NCIS from day one.
Episode#8 Eddie Gallagher - Retired Navy SEAL Tried for Murder
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The speaker discusses his experience with police interrogations and how he remains silent to protect himself legally.
2:02:06 - 2:08:05 (05:59)
Summary
The speaker discusses his experience with police interrogations and how he remains silent to protect himself legally.
Episode#8 Eddie Gallagher - Retired Navy SEAL Tried for Murder
PodcastShawn Ryan Show
A family's morning was interrupted by an FBI raid, causing the mother to panic and want to leave.
2:08:05 - 2:12:15 (04:10)
Summary
A family's morning was interrupted by an FBI raid, causing the mother to panic and want to leave. The family's eight-year-old son grabbed a gun and woke up his older brother because he thought there were guys with guns outside.
Episode#8 Eddie Gallagher - Retired Navy SEAL Tried for Murder
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A man recounts a conversation with his wife about his home being robbed and her observations of the burglars appearing as "beta male dudes".
2:12:15 - 2:17:45 (05:30)
Summary
A man recounts a conversation with his wife about his home being robbed and her observations of the burglars appearing as "beta male dudes".
Episode#8 Eddie Gallagher - Retired Navy SEAL Tried for Murder
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A family was at gunpoint by NCIS in their own home, with the father confused and fearful about what was happening to his children outside.
2:17:45 - 2:25:57 (08:12)
Summary
A family was at gunpoint by NCIS in their own home, with the father confused and fearful about what was happening to his children outside.
Episode#8 Eddie Gallagher - Retired Navy SEAL Tried for Murder
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A US Marine was the victim of psychological warfare when he saw people with guns and battering rams lining up at his door but was not told what was happening all day.
2:25:57 - 2:30:27 (04:30)
Summary
A US Marine was the victim of psychological warfare when he saw people with guns and battering rams lining up at his door but was not told what was happening all day.
Episode#8 Eddie Gallagher - Retired Navy SEAL Tried for Murder
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After a police raid occurred in a neighborhood, the community was outraged and began discussing the incident extensively.
2:30:27 - 2:34:46 (04:18)
Summary
After a police raid occurred in a neighborhood, the community was outraged and began discussing the incident extensively.
Episode#8 Eddie Gallagher - Retired Navy SEAL Tried for Murder
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A conversation featuring Navy SEALs is summarized in disjointed and unfocused language.
2:34:46 - 2:46:54 (12:08)
Summary
A conversation featuring Navy SEALs is summarized in disjointed and unfocused language.
Episode#8 Eddie Gallagher - Retired Navy SEAL Tried for Murder
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A woman, using the knowledge she gained during her brother's wrongful imprisonment, started an Instagram page to spread awareness about wrongful convictions and fight for justice.
2:46:54 - 2:52:55 (06:01)
Summary
A woman, using the knowledge she gained during her brother's wrongful imprisonment, started an Instagram page to spread awareness about wrongful convictions and fight for justice.
Episode#8 Eddie Gallagher - Retired Navy SEAL Tried for Murder
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A former Army Ranger shares his experience of being falsely accused of murder and his eventual vindication after an Article 32 trial.
2:52:55 - 3:00:29 (07:34)
Summary
A former Army Ranger shares his experience of being falsely accused of murder and his eventual vindication after an Article 32 trial.
Episode#8 Eddie Gallagher - Retired Navy SEAL Tried for Murder
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A Navy SEAL was accused of killing an ISIS fighter, but evidence showed otherwise and it turned out to be a false accusation.
3:00:29 - 3:06:42 (06:13)
Summary
A Navy SEAL was accused of killing an ISIS fighter, but evidence showed otherwise and it turned out to be a false accusation.
Episode#8 Eddie Gallagher - Retired Navy SEAL Tried for Murder
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The presence of a video and a rumor about its contents made people question the facts of a high-profile case where someone was accused of a serious crime.
3:06:42 - 3:12:33 (05:51)
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The presence of a video and a rumor about its contents made people question the facts of a high-profile case where someone was accused of a serious crime. The man in question was visited by someone who had a vested interest in the case, raising concerns about the concept of unlawful command influence.
Episode#8 Eddie Gallagher - Retired Navy SEAL Tried for Murder
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In this episode, the speaker discusses how a text thread was used as evidence in a murder trial and how the lack of incriminating evidence in the rest of the thread helped their defense.
3:12:33 - 3:18:19 (05:46)
Summary
In this episode, the speaker discusses how a text thread was used as evidence in a murder trial and how the lack of incriminating evidence in the rest of the thread helped their defense.
Episode#8 Eddie Gallagher - Retired Navy SEAL Tried for Murder
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The speaker expresses gratitude towards an individual who came forward to tell the truth in a situation where a confession could save the speaker from a life sentence.
3:18:19 - 3:26:00 (07:41)
Summary
The speaker expresses gratitude towards an individual who came forward to tell the truth in a situation where a confession could save the speaker from a life sentence.
Episode#8 Eddie Gallagher - Retired Navy SEAL Tried for Murder
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The speaker recounts his ordeal in prison where he was subjected to verbal and physical abuse and strip searches as a form of harassment.
3:26:00 - 3:32:36 (06:36)
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The speaker recounts his ordeal in prison where he was subjected to verbal and physical abuse and strip searches as a form of harassment.
Episode#8 Eddie Gallagher - Retired Navy SEAL Tried for Murder
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The speaker discusses a legal conflict in which one of his acquaintances felt confined by the command, and also talks about his expectations when he met a New York lawyer.
3:32:36 - 3:42:11 (09:35)
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The speaker discusses a legal conflict in which one of his acquaintances felt confined by the command, and also talks about his expectations when he met a New York lawyer.
Episode#8 Eddie Gallagher - Retired Navy SEAL Tried for Murder
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Jim Goad recounts the story of the Subway Vigilante, Bernhard Goetz, who shot four black teens on a New York City subway train in 1984, and the media frenzy and racial tensions that followed.
3:42:11 - 3:49:27 (07:16)
Summary
Jim Goad recounts the story of the Subway Vigilante, Bernhard Goetz, who shot four black teens on a New York City subway train in 1984, and the media frenzy and racial tensions that followed.
Episode#8 Eddie Gallagher - Retired Navy SEAL Tried for Murder
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A juror's integrity is paramount in a court case, and posting about the case on social media can jeopardize that integrity.
3:49:27 - 3:53:32 (04:05)
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A juror's integrity is paramount in a court case, and posting about the case on social media can jeopardize that integrity. This podcast discusses a case where a juror was caught posting about the case and lying during jury selection.
Episode#8 Eddie Gallagher - Retired Navy SEAL Tried for Murder
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The turning point of the trial occurred when the main prosecution witness, Corey Scott, admitted during cross-examination that he actually killed the ISIS prisoner, not Gallagher.
3:53:32 - 4:00:17 (06:45)
Summary
The turning point of the trial occurred when the main prosecution witness, Corey Scott, admitted during cross-examination that he actually killed the ISIS prisoner, not Gallagher. This caused the prosecution's case to fall apart.
Episode#8 Eddie Gallagher - Retired Navy SEAL Tried for Murder
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The narrator, who had never considered getting a tattoo before, got a meaningful tattoo after being acquitted of his crimes, and it brought tears to everyone's eyes in the courtroom.
4:00:17 - 4:04:34 (04:17)
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The narrator, who had never considered getting a tattoo before, got a meaningful tattoo after being acquitted of his crimes, and it brought tears to everyone's eyes in the courtroom.
Episode#8 Eddie Gallagher - Retired Navy SEAL Tried for Murder
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A man recounts how his lawyer advised him not to do anything if the military continues to mess with him after the trial.
4:04:34 - 4:10:49 (06:15)
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A man recounts how his lawyer advised him not to do anything if the military continues to mess with him after the trial.
Episode#8 Eddie Gallagher - Retired Navy SEAL Tried for Murder
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A Navy SEAL criticized Fox News for their one-sided story and later got fired.
4:10:49 - 4:19:07 (08:18)
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A Navy SEAL criticized Fox News for their one-sided story and later got fired. Although he was willing to tell his side of the story to a trial review board, his lawyer warned against it.
Episode#8 Eddie Gallagher - Retired Navy SEAL Tried for Murder
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The speaker discusses a situation where the admin guys were confused by a document that had been altered, and mentions a trial that can be listened to via a QR code.
4:19:07 - 4:26:01 (06:53)
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The speaker discusses a situation where the admin guys were confused by a document that had been altered, and mentions a trial that can be listened to via a QR code.
Episode#8 Eddie Gallagher - Retired Navy SEAL Tried for Murder
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The speaker talks about their experience providing assistance to female and pregnant individuals in a war zone, as well as helping partner forces who were injured.
4:26:01 - 4:39:29 (13:27)
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The speaker talks about their experience providing assistance to female and pregnant individuals in a war zone, as well as helping partner forces who were injured. They also discuss focusing on their own mental health to become a better person overall.
Episode#8 Eddie Gallagher - Retired Navy SEAL Tried for Murder
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The speaker shares how using psychedelics, specifically a plant consumed in certain South American cultures, helped him find purpose and connect with a sense of fraternity with others who share similar experiences.
4:39:29 - 4:44:37 (05:08)
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The speaker shares how using psychedelics, specifically a plant consumed in certain South American cultures, helped him find purpose and connect with a sense of fraternity with others who share similar experiences.
Episode#8 Eddie Gallagher - Retired Navy SEAL Tried for Murder
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The speaker shares their experience of finding peace through psychedelic therapy and how it helped them process childhood trauma through an intense hallucination of witnessing their past.
4:44:37 - 4:51:03 (06:26)
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The speaker shares their experience of finding peace through psychedelic therapy and how it helped them process childhood trauma through an intense hallucination of witnessing their past.
Episode#8 Eddie Gallagher - Retired Navy SEAL Tried for Murder
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The speaker reflects on his journey of forgiveness and letting go of anger towards those who caused him pain and trauma.
4:51:03 - 4:56:38 (05:35)
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The speaker reflects on his journey of forgiveness and letting go of anger towards those who caused him pain and trauma.
Episode#8 Eddie Gallagher - Retired Navy SEAL Tried for Murder
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The use of plant medicine can help individuals combat the negative thoughts and influences that consume them on a daily basis, even if the roots of the problem are not based in religion.
4:56:38 - 5:01:41 (05:03)
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The use of plant medicine can help individuals combat the negative thoughts and influences that consume them on a daily basis, even if the roots of the problem are not based in religion.
Episode#8 Eddie Gallagher - Retired Navy SEAL Tried for Murder
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The speaker mentions the Seal Future Foundation and the Seals Fund as two organizations that support and benefit the seal community.
5:01:41 - 5:05:42 (04:01)
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The speaker mentions the Seal Future Foundation and the Seals Fund as two organizations that support and benefit the seal community.
Episode#8 Eddie Gallagher - Retired Navy SEAL Tried for Murder
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In this episode, the speaker talks about how CBD is helping them cope with anxiety, and how frustrated they are with lawmakers who won't do research on the benefits of CBD.
5:05:42 - 5:10:12 (04:30)
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In this episode, the speaker talks about how CBD is helping them cope with anxiety, and how frustrated they are with lawmakers who won't do research on the benefits of CBD.
Episode#8 Eddie Gallagher - Retired Navy SEAL Tried for Murder
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A former military member discusses losing friends and the flaws of the military justice system, noting that the consequences of the job are lifelong.
5:10:12 - 5:17:23 (07:11)
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A former military member discusses losing friends and the flaws of the military justice system, noting that the consequences of the job are lifelong.
Episode#8 Eddie Gallagher - Retired Navy SEAL Tried for Murder
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The speaker talks about how he and his team provide different types of support to people who need it, such as legal defense or spreading the word about their situation, and how they fundraise to do so.
5:17:23 - 5:22:05 (04:42)
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The speaker talks about how he and his team provide different types of support to people who need it, such as legal defense or spreading the word about their situation, and how they fundraise to do so.
Episode#8 Eddie Gallagher - Retired Navy SEAL Tried for Murder
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The speaker discusses the importance of patriotism and justice in society and how the support he received during a personal trial inspired him to start advocating for others facing injustice.
5:22:05 - 5:27:31 (05:25)
Summary
The speaker discusses the importance of patriotism and justice in society and how the support he received during a personal trial inspired him to start advocating for others facing injustice.
Episode#8 Eddie Gallagher - Retired Navy SEAL Tried for Murder
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Enlisted teams are what make up the platoons and determine the culture within the community, not the commanders or headshed, and it's important to have each other's back.
5:27:31 - 5:30:52 (03:21)
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Enlisted teams are what make up the platoons and determine the culture within the community, not the commanders or headshed, and it's important to have each other's back.