Episode
#393: Edward Norton — On Creative Process, Creative Struggle, and Motherless Brooklyn
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“It's nice to be reminded that it's been hard for other people when they were getting things done that you admired, because it maybe gives you that extra little bit of determination or patience to persevere a little more." — Edward NortonEdward Norton (@EdwardNorton) is one of the most celebrated actors of his generation. He has been nominated for three Academy Awards for his performances and has starred in, produced, written, or directed more than 30 films. His most recent film, Motherless Brooklyn, which he wrote, directed, produced, and stars in, will be released on November 1st.People mostly know Edward for his acting, but he has a substantial parallel career as an entrepreneur, investor, and activist in both technology and environmental sustainability ventures.In 2010 Norton co-founded and was chairman of CrowdRise, a charitable crowdfunding platform which raised more than $500M for U.S. nonprofit organizations before being acquired by GoFundMe, the largest social fundraising platform in the world, which Norton now serves on the board of. He also co-founded EDO, which applies advanced data science and machine learning to the analysis of audience engagement signals for the media and advertising industries. EDO's data and software are used by every major film studio in their media rotation planning, and virtually every major television network now includes EDO data alongside Nielsen data within their pricing metrics.He is the founding board president of the Maasai Wilderness Conservation Trust, an award-winning Kenyan conservation and community development organization, and in 2010 he was appointed the first United Nations Goodwill Ambassador for Biodiversity.Edward seems to do it all. In this wide-ranging conversation, we go deep into his creative process and creative struggles, both inside and outside of film.If you'd like more Edward after this episode, you can listen to my 2016 interview with him at tim.blog/edward. And take my word for it and go see Motherless Brooklyn in theaters. It's absolutely outstanding.This episode is brought to you by Zapier. 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00:00 - 01:50 (01:50)
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Zapier can help you with time-consuming tasks by automatically connecting more than 1500 different business applications, saving you time and effort. The app allows you to automate processes, making it easier for you to get things done.
Episode#393: Edward Norton — On Creative Process, Creative Struggle, and Motherless Brooklyn
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
Zapier allows non-technical people to piece together different programs for their business needs, providing automation and saving an average of 40 hours per month.
01:50 - 05:26 (03:35)
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Zapier allows non-technical people to piece together different programs for their business needs, providing automation and saving an average of 40 hours per month. Ad for Zapier and its free trial is mentioned at the end.
Episode#393: Edward Norton — On Creative Process, Creative Struggle, and Motherless Brooklyn
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
The speaker talks about his fascination with the book "Motherless Brooklyn" by Jonathan Lethem, which follows a detective with obsessive-compulsive disorder trying to solve the murder of his boss in Brooklyn.
05:26 - 15:13 (09:47)
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The speaker talks about his fascination with the book "Motherless Brooklyn" by Jonathan Lethem, which follows a detective with obsessive-compulsive disorder trying to solve the murder of his boss in Brooklyn. He draws a parallel between the emotional hooks of the book and "Catcher in the Rye".
Episode#393: Edward Norton — On Creative Process, Creative Struggle, and Motherless Brooklyn
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
The podcast discusses the struggle of managing one's inner voice and how it affects decision making.
15:13 - 23:04 (07:51)
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The podcast discusses the struggle of managing one's inner voice and how it affects decision making.
Episode#393: Edward Norton — On Creative Process, Creative Struggle, and Motherless Brooklyn
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
The podcast host reflects on the voices in our heads - insecurity, competitiveness, and ambition - and how embracing the freedom of youth can lead us towards new experiences and opportunities.
23:04 - 31:55 (08:50)
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The podcast host reflects on the voices in our heads - insecurity, competitiveness, and ambition - and how embracing the freedom of youth can lead us towards new experiences and opportunities.
Episode#393: Edward Norton — On Creative Process, Creative Struggle, and Motherless Brooklyn
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
In this conversation, the speaker talks about his love for film adaptations that completely transform the original work, using the example of the movie Out of Africa.
31:55 - 38:42 (06:46)
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In this conversation, the speaker talks about his love for film adaptations that completely transform the original work, using the example of the movie Out of Africa. He also highlights the importance of a good sound mix in movie quality.
Episode#393: Edward Norton — On Creative Process, Creative Struggle, and Motherless Brooklyn
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
The speaker discusses how he found clarity in his screenplay writing by simply setting the story in the 50s, citing examples of how sometimes an actor is just right for a role.
38:42 - 49:44 (11:01)
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The speaker discusses how he found clarity in his screenplay writing by simply setting the story in the 50s, citing examples of how sometimes an actor is just right for a role.
Episode#393: Edward Norton — On Creative Process, Creative Struggle, and Motherless Brooklyn
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
The process of producing a 1950s period film in Hollywood can be challenging, as evidenced by the experience of filmmaker Toby Emmert's decade-long struggle to bring his story to life, despite the mental block moments and difficulties in casting and financing.
49:44 - 56:24 (06:40)
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The process of producing a 1950s period film in Hollywood can be challenging, as evidenced by the experience of filmmaker Toby Emmert's decade-long struggle to bring his story to life, despite the mental block moments and difficulties in casting and financing.
Episode#393: Edward Norton — On Creative Process, Creative Struggle, and Motherless Brooklyn
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
The speaker discusses the benefits of not solely pursuing financially successful films in Hollywood and shares the importance of maintaining a focus on creating excellent, zeitgeisty films, regardless of financial gain.
56:24 - 1:04:19 (07:54)
Summary
The speaker discusses the benefits of not solely pursuing financially successful films in Hollywood and shares the importance of maintaining a focus on creating excellent, zeitgeisty films, regardless of financial gain.
Episode#393: Edward Norton — On Creative Process, Creative Struggle, and Motherless Brooklyn
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
The act of creative expression can dial down the volume on insecurities, yet the cultural construct of competition and awards around creative work is inauthentic and mortifying, more so than in figure skating.
1:04:19 - 1:12:19 (08:00)
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The act of creative expression can dial down the volume on insecurities, yet the cultural construct of competition and awards around creative work is inauthentic and mortifying, more so than in figure skating.
Episode#393: Edward Norton — On Creative Process, Creative Struggle, and Motherless Brooklyn
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
The speaker reflects on the risk and reward of independent filmmaking, discussing his reluctance to surrender to the idea of streaming presentations and the thick alliances formed to achieve the long-held dream.
1:12:19 - 1:26:39 (14:20)
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The speaker reflects on the risk and reward of independent filmmaking, discussing his reluctance to surrender to the idea of streaming presentations and the thick alliances formed to achieve the long-held dream.