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Ep 54: The Promises and Perils of the Microbiome - Dr. Jonathan Eisen and Jessica Richman
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1:58:36
Published: Tue Jan 06 2015
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By popular demand, an entire episode dedicated to exploring the microbiome! Are you really 90% bacteria and 10% human? How can you manage or optimize your own microbiome? Should we do fecal-matter transplants from "untouched" indigenous tribes to reverse chronic illness? We tackle all this and much more. Jessica Richman is co-founder and CEO of uBiome, a startup backed by Y Combinator and Andreesen Horowitz, which uses citizen science to understand the human microbiome. Jessica attended Stanford University, where she earned degrees in economics and interdisciplinary engineering. She then got a fellowship to Oxford University for her PhD in computational social science. Her work has been featured in Wired, Popular Science, MIT Technology Review, NYT, and dozens of other media outlets. Jonathan Eisen is a Full Professor at the University of California, Davis with appointments in the School of Medicine and the College of Biological Sciences. Dr. Eisen’s research focuses on the evolution, ecology and function of communities of microorganisms. His study systems have included boiling acid pools, surface ocean waters, buildings, agents of many diseases, and the microbial ecosystems (also known as microbiomes) that are found living in and on plants and animals. In addition to his research, Dr. Eisen is a vocal advocate for “open science” especially “open access” to scientific publications. He earned a Ph.D. in Biological Sciences from Stanford University and an A.B. in Biology from Harvard College. ***If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes? It takes less than 60 seconds, and it really makes a difference in helping to convince hard-to-get guests. I also love reading the reviews!For show notes and past guests, please visit tim.blog/podcast.Sign up for Tim’s email newsletter (“5-Bullet Friday”) at tim.blog/friday.For transcripts of episodes, go to tim.blog/transcripts.Interested in sponsoring the podcast? Visit tim.blog/sponsor and fill out the form.Discover Tim’s books: tim.blog/books.Follow Tim:Twitter: twitter.com/tferriss Instagram: instagram.com/timferrissFacebook: facebook.com/timferriss YouTube: youtube.com/timferrissPast guests on The Tim Ferriss Show include Jerry Seinfeld, Hugh Jackman, Dr. Jane Goodall, LeBron James, Kevin Hart, Doris Kearns Goodwin, Jamie Foxx, Matthew McConaughey, Esther Perel, Elizabeth Gilbert, Terry Crews, Sia, Yuval Noah Harari, Malcolm Gladwell, Madeleine Albright, Cheryl Strayed, Jim Collins, Mary Karr, Maria Popova, Sam Harris, Michael Phelps, Bob Iger, Edward Norton, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Neil Strauss, Ken Burns, Maria Sharapova, Marc Andreessen, Neil Gaiman, Neil de Grasse Tyson, Jocko Willink, Daniel Ek, Kelly Slater, Dr. Peter Attia, Seth Godin, Howard Marks, Dr. Brené Brown, Eric Schmidt, Michael Lewis, Joe Gebbia, Michael Pollan, Dr. Jordan Peterson, Vince Vaughn, Brian Koppelman, Ramit Sethi, Dax Shepard, Tony Robbins, Jim Dethmer, Dan Harris, Ray Dalio, Naval Ravikant, Vitalik Buterin, Elizabeth Lesser, Amanda Palmer, Katie Haun, Sir Richard Branson, Chuck Palahniuk, Arianna Huffington, Reid Hoffman, Bill Burr, Whitney Cummings, Rick Rubin, Dr. Vivek Murthy, Darren Aronofsky, and many more.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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The host promotes his email newsletter, Five Bullet Friday, which contains a weekly selection of cool and interesting things he has found.

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Ep 54: The Promises and Perils of the Microbiome - Dr. Jonathan Eisen and Jessica Richman
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Microbiology
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The speaker expresses dislike for the numerous sub-disciplines within microbiology, arguing that it is not useful to isolate humans from other animals or differentiate between environmental and medical microbiology.

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Gut Microbiome
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The gut microbiome is commonly associated with health conditions involving the gut, but citizen scientists are adding new perspectives and collaborations to this area through open-sourcing their own experiences and experiments in the field.

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This podcast episode explores the idea of how we are only 10% human, with the remaining 90% of our bodies comprised of microbes, and how this affects our overall health and wellbeing.
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This podcast episode explores the idea of how we are only 10% human, with the remaining 90% of our bodies comprised of microbes, and how this affects our overall health and wellbeing. The episode also delves into the connection between gut inflammation and anxiety caused by microbes, and other fascinating insights into the human microbiome.

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This transcript discusses the hypothesis that autoimmune disorders could be caused by a lack of microbes at a specific point in human development and the idea of banking stool samples at a young age for future fecal transplants, though synthetic poop is still unlikely.
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This transcript discusses the hypothesis that autoimmune disorders could be caused by a lack of microbes at a specific point in human development and the idea of banking stool samples at a young age for future fecal transplants, though synthetic poop is still unlikely.

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The importance of storing biological material, such as gene samples, for future use and licensing as well as utilizing an evolutionary perspective in studying individual microbes or communities of microbes.

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