Episode
#254 – Jay Bhattacharya: The Case Against Lockdowns
2:28:33
Published: Tue Jan 04 2022
Description
Jay Bhattacharya is a professor of medicine at Stanford University and co-author of the Great Barrington Declaration. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: - Athletic Greens: https://athleticgreens.com/lex and use code LEX to get 1 month of fish oil - InsideTracker: https://insidetracker.com/lex and use code Lex25 to get 25% off - Coinbase: https://coinbase.com/lex to get $5 in free Bitcoin - ROKA: https://roka.com/ and use code LEX to get 20% off your first order - Indeed: https://indeed.com/lex to get $75 credit EPISODE LINKS: Jay's Twitter: https://twitter.com/DrJBhattacharya Great Barrington Declaration: https://gbdeclaration.org/ PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: - Check out the sponsors above, it's the best way to support this podcast - Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman - Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman - Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here's the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) - Introduction (10:18) - How deadly is Covid? (39:48) - Covid vs Influenza (45:42) - Francis Collins email to Fauci (1:06:19) - Francis Collins (1:13:48) - Vaccine safety and efficacy (1:20:46) - Vaccine hesitancy (1:37:21) - Great Barrington Declaration and lockdowns (1:53:39) - Focused Protection (2:15:31) - Fear (2:19:57) - Advice for young people (2:24:56) - Fear of death (2:26:53) - Meaning of life
Chapters
Lockdowns have resulted in economic pain, loss of jobs, and an increase in suicide and fearful response from the public, while those in power remain arrogant and ignore dissident voices.
00:00 - 03:13 (03:13)
Summary
Lockdowns have resulted in economic pain, loss of jobs, and an increase in suicide and fearful response from the public, while those in power remain arrogant and ignore dissident voices. This podcast discusses the harmful impacts of lockdowns and the importance of challenging mainstream narratives and leadership.
Episode#254 – Jay Bhattacharya: The Case Against Lockdowns
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
Companies offer advanced algorithms to analyze blood data, DNA data, and fitness tracker data to provide personalized and science-backed recommendations for a healthy lifestyle to their clients, ensuring monthly updates with the latest information and tools.
03:13 - 09:38 (06:25)
Summary
Companies offer advanced algorithms to analyze blood data, DNA data, and fitness tracker data to provide personalized and science-backed recommendations for a healthy lifestyle to their clients, ensuring monthly updates with the latest information and tools.
Episode#254 – Jay Bhattacharya: The Case Against Lockdowns
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The process of filling out a death certificate for a patient with multiple conditions, such as diabetes leading to heart failure, and the presence of COVID-19 can make it difficult to determine the exact number of COVID deaths, leading to audits of certificates in certain areas.
09:38 - 14:42 (05:04)
Summary
The process of filling out a death certificate for a patient with multiple conditions, such as diabetes leading to heart failure, and the presence of COVID-19 can make it difficult to determine the exact number of COVID deaths, leading to audits of certificates in certain areas.
Episode#254 – Jay Bhattacharya: The Case Against Lockdowns
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The COVID-19 pandemic has influenced people's psychological perception towards others, making them see each other as sources of germs rather than individuals to interact and learn from, creating a surge of negative emotions that bring out the worst in people.
14:42 - 20:44 (06:01)
Summary
The COVID-19 pandemic has influenced people's psychological perception towards others, making them see each other as sources of germs rather than individuals to interact and learn from, creating a surge of negative emotions that bring out the worst in people.
Episode#254 – Jay Bhattacharya: The Case Against Lockdowns
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
Looking beyond the political implications of COVID-19, the death rate across different demographics can shed light on its true impact which can only be truly evaluated in retrospect, and may be compared to that of the pandemic 100 years ago.
20:44 - 26:29 (05:44)
Summary
Looking beyond the political implications of COVID-19, the death rate across different demographics can shed light on its true impact which can only be truly evaluated in retrospect, and may be compared to that of the pandemic 100 years ago.
Episode#254 – Jay Bhattacharya: The Case Against Lockdowns
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The infection fatality rate varies greatly depending on the location in which a person is infected with the coronavirus; in poorer places, such as Africa, it is much lower whereas in richer places, like New York City, it is much higher.
26:29 - 31:14 (04:45)
Summary
The infection fatality rate varies greatly depending on the location in which a person is infected with the coronavirus; in poorer places, such as Africa, it is much lower whereas in richer places, like New York City, it is much higher. This complicates the process of determining a global infection fatality rate.
Episode#254 – Jay Bhattacharya: The Case Against Lockdowns
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
This podcast discusses the difference between peer-reviewed studies and non-peer-reviewed studies, highlighting the potential consequences of releasing flawed scientific research to the general public.
31:14 - 37:45 (06:30)
Summary
This podcast discusses the difference between peer-reviewed studies and non-peer-reviewed studies, highlighting the potential consequences of releasing flawed scientific research to the general public. The importance of peer review in ensuring accuracy is emphasized.
Episode#254 – Jay Bhattacharya: The Case Against Lockdowns
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The COVID-19 death toll in the US has surpassed 800,000, raising comparisons to the mortality rate of influenza.
37:45 - 48:03 (10:18)
Summary
The COVID-19 death toll in the US has surpassed 800,000, raising comparisons to the mortality rate of influenza. However, early studies of the H1N1 mortality rate used a different method than current COVID-19 reporting.
Episode#254 – Jay Bhattacharya: The Case Against Lockdowns
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
Dr. Martin Kulldorff, co-author of The Great Barrington Declaration, discusses the inspiration behind the declaration and its call for a more measured, focused response to the COVID-19 pandemic.
48:03 - 56:08 (08:04)
Summary
Dr. Martin Kulldorff, co-author of The Great Barrington Declaration, discusses the inspiration behind the declaration and its call for a more measured, focused response to the COVID-19 pandemic.
Episode#254 – Jay Bhattacharya: The Case Against Lockdowns
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
Collins and Fauci's recommended policies for the pandemic are crucial, and doubting them can be dangerous for society's most vulnerable population.
56:08 - 1:00:52 (04:44)
Summary
Collins and Fauci's recommended policies for the pandemic are crucial, and doubting them can be dangerous for society's most vulnerable population. It is crucial to prioritize the well-being of individuals and have faith in the advice of trusted authorities.
Episode#254 – Jay Bhattacharya: The Case Against Lockdowns
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The speaker discusses the two ways in which people view science depending on either an invitation to structured discussion or as truth, and emphasizes the importance of questioning established scientific beliefs to promote progress.
1:00:52 - 1:06:21 (05:28)
Summary
The speaker discusses the two ways in which people view science depending on either an invitation to structured discussion or as truth, and emphasizes the importance of questioning established scientific beliefs to promote progress.
Episode#254 – Jay Bhattacharya: The Case Against Lockdowns
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The responsibility of defining public policies comes with a lot of pressure and the weight of the outcome can lead to criticism and conflict of interest.
1:06:21 - 1:12:25 (06:03)
Summary
The responsibility of defining public policies comes with a lot of pressure and the weight of the outcome can lead to criticism and conflict of interest. It's important for public figures to inspire humility, trust in science and hope for the future with their decisions.
Episode#254 – Jay Bhattacharya: The Case Against Lockdowns
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The podcast host reflects on why some people are hesitant to trust in the power of vaccines despite their proven success in curbing disease outbreaks.
1:12:26 - 1:21:54 (09:28)
Summary
The podcast host reflects on why some people are hesitant to trust in the power of vaccines despite their proven success in curbing disease outbreaks. He discusses how vaccines go through extensive testing and trials to ensure their safety and effectiveness.
Episode#254 – Jay Bhattacharya: The Case Against Lockdowns
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The tension around vaccine mandates, vaccine distrust and debates about vaccinating children can distract from the bigger picture.
1:21:54 - 1:34:44 (12:49)
Summary
The tension around vaccine mandates, vaccine distrust and debates about vaccinating children can distract from the bigger picture. While some may be skeptical of those trying to profit off the pandemic, the profit motive is often necessary to make large-scale change.
Episode#254 – Jay Bhattacharya: The Case Against Lockdowns
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The lockdowns implemented in India had direct effects on migrant workers who lived hand to mouth and were unable to provide for themselves due to the inability to earn money during the pandemic.
1:34:44 - 1:43:47 (09:02)
Summary
The lockdowns implemented in India had direct effects on migrant workers who lived hand to mouth and were unable to provide for themselves due to the inability to earn money during the pandemic. However, the hope lies in the younger generation who observe the actions of our scientific and political leaders and strive to not repeat past mistakes.
Episode#254 – Jay Bhattacharya: The Case Against Lockdowns
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
This podcast conversation covers different angles of economic hardship, how it can lead to depression and suicide, and the importance of having hope for the future even in difficult times.
1:43:47 - 1:53:25 (09:37)
Summary
This podcast conversation covers different angles of economic hardship, how it can lead to depression and suicide, and the importance of having hope for the future even in difficult times.
Episode#254 – Jay Bhattacharya: The Case Against Lockdowns
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
A focus on protecting vulnerable people in institutionalized settings, such as nursing homes, can address the issue of hospital bed and ventilator shortages during a crisis like the COVID-19 pandemic.
1:53:25 - 1:57:56 (04:31)
Summary
A focus on protecting vulnerable people in institutionalized settings, such as nursing homes, can address the issue of hospital bed and ventilator shortages during a crisis like the COVID-19 pandemic.
Episode#254 – Jay Bhattacharya: The Case Against Lockdowns
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The empathy used to encourage people to stay at home and wear masks during the pandemic could have been redirected to actually help those in need.
1:57:56 - 2:02:29 (04:32)
Summary
The empathy used to encourage people to stay at home and wear masks during the pandemic could have been redirected to actually help those in need. Critics argue that implementing this idea in a society with mixed-age groups and living conditions may not be possible.
Episode#254 – Jay Bhattacharya: The Case Against Lockdowns
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
COVID-19 has specific characteristics that make it easier to identify high-risk groups who need protection.
2:02:29 - 2:09:23 (06:54)
Summary
COVID-19 has specific characteristics that make it easier to identify high-risk groups who need protection. The speaker also emphasizes the importance of recognizing the impact of other diseases, such as depression, and the potential consequences of targeting specific groups, similar to collateral damage from bombings.
Episode#254 – Jay Bhattacharya: The Case Against Lockdowns
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The focus of universities on preventing the spread of COVID-19 over reducing the harm caused by it is a problem.
2:09:23 - 2:15:33 (06:09)
Summary
The focus of universities on preventing the spread of COVID-19 over reducing the harm caused by it is a problem. University policies related to COVID-19 are excessively risk-averse and not well calibrated according to data analyst, Nate Silver.
Episode#254 – Jay Bhattacharya: The Case Against Lockdowns
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
Public health's role is to manage and address the fear caused by a pandemic rather than eradicating it.
2:15:33 - 2:24:46 (09:12)
Summary
Public health's role is to manage and address the fear caused by a pandemic rather than eradicating it. The COVID-19 pandemic has caused an increase in fear due to policies that have exaggerated its severity, leading people to give away their willingness to participate in regular life.
Episode#254 – Jay Bhattacharya: The Case Against Lockdowns
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The speaker discusses the worry about the wellbeing of loved ones during the COVID-19 pandemic and the importance of understanding the death rate for different age groups.
2:24:47 - 2:28:16 (03:29)
Summary
The speaker discusses the worry about the wellbeing of loved ones during the COVID-19 pandemic and the importance of understanding the death rate for different age groups.