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#313 – Jordan Peterson: Life, Death, Power, Fame, and Meaning
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3:10:00
Published: Fri Aug 19 2022
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Jordan Peterson is a psychologist, lecturer, podcast host, and author. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: - Notion: https://notion.com/startups to get up to $1000 off team plan - InsideTracker: https://insidetracker.com/lex to get 20% off - Eight Sleep: https://www.eightsleep.com/lex and use code LEX to get special savings - Blinkist: https://blinkist.com/lex to get 25% off premium EPISODE LINKS: Jordan's Twitter: https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson Jordan's Website: https://jordanbpeterson.com Jordan's Books: Beyond Order: https://amzn.to/3T4LRBw 12 Rules for Life: https://amzn.to/3c4sqYF Maps of Meaning: https://amzn.to/3A1Ods2 Websites mentioned: Essay App: https://essay.app Self Authoring: https://selfauthoring.com Peterson Academy: https://petersonacademy.com PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: - Check out the sponsors above, it's the best way to support this podcast - Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman - Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman - Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here's the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) - Introduction (07:07) - Dostoevsky (18:07) - God (26:17) - Science (38:40) - Death (41:34) - Elon Musk (45:32) - Global Crisis (57:45) - Dangerous ideologies (1:08:59) - Justin Trudeau (1:23:05) - War in Ukraine (1:40:33) - Day in the life (2:16:37) - How to think (2:31:45) - Depression (2:39:52) - Advice for young people (2:53:41) - Russian literature (3:05:29) - Meaning of life

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This podcast features advertisements for Weights & Biases, a machine learning company, Notion, a note-taking and team collaboration tool, and supporting sponsors.
00:00 - 02:23 (02:23)
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Advertisements
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This podcast features advertisements for Weights & Biases, a machine learning company, Notion, a note-taking and team collaboration tool, and supporting sponsors.

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#313 – Jordan Peterson: Life, Death, Power, Fame, and Meaning
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A discussion on the use of machine learning algorithms for personalized healthcare, using blood data, DNA data, and fitness tracker data to provide individuals with a clear understanding of their health and recommendations on how to improve it.
02:23 - 07:18 (04:55)
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Machine Learning
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A discussion on the use of machine learning algorithms for personalized healthcare, using blood data, DNA data, and fitness tracker data to provide individuals with a clear understanding of their health and recommendations on how to improve it. The tool can also be used to select books to read or for reading summaries of important books.

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#313 – Jordan Peterson: Life, Death, Power, Fame, and Meaning
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The podcast speaker delves into religious images in Genesis, like the bush not being consumed by fire and the cherubim with flaming swords at the gate of the Garden of Eden, and how they have deep, unpacked meanings even after thousands of years.
07:19 - 16:12 (08:53)
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Genesis
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The podcast speaker delves into religious images in Genesis, like the bush not being consumed by fire and the cherubim with flaming swords at the gate of the Garden of Eden, and how they have deep, unpacked meanings even after thousands of years.

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In this podcast, the speaker discusses the concept of God and how it has evolved over time.
16:12 - 21:38 (05:25)
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Religion
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In this podcast, the speaker discusses the concept of God and how it has evolved over time. The speaker explains that the highest sense of God is the spirit that one must emulate in order to thrive.

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The field of computer science is becoming one of the major scientific fields of the 21st century and should be taken seriously, particularly in regards to robotics and artificial intelligence.
21:38 - 30:11 (08:32)
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Robotics and artificial intelligence
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The field of computer science is becoming one of the major scientific fields of the 21st century and should be taken seriously, particularly in regards to robotics and artificial intelligence. As scientists, it is important to recognize that our understanding of matter will continue to transform and evolve over time.

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The speaker talks about the importance of having critics around you to improve and avoid alienating others, and how there is a balance between productivity and biological culling that is similar to the alchemy of destruction.
30:11 - 35:48 (05:36)
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self-improvement
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The speaker talks about the importance of having critics around you to improve and avoid alienating others, and how there is a balance between productivity and biological culling that is similar to the alchemy of destruction.

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#313 – Jordan Peterson: Life, Death, Power, Fame, and Meaning
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The podcast hosts discuss their thoughts on death and the abyss, referencing Nietzsche's quote about becoming a monster if you battle monsters and the idea that if you stare into the abyss long enough, you will see the light instead of the darkness.
35:48 - 41:38 (05:50)
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Death
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The podcast hosts discuss their thoughts on death and the abyss, referencing Nietzsche's quote about becoming a monster if you battle monsters and the idea that if you stare into the abyss long enough, you will see the light instead of the darkness.

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#313 – Jordan Peterson: Life, Death, Power, Fame, and Meaning
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Elon Musk's idea of colonizing Mars and making human civilization a multi-planetary species might be crucial for survival and progress.
41:38 - 45:41 (04:02)
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Mars, colonizing, civilization, survival, progress
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Elon Musk's idea of colonizing Mars and making human civilization a multi-planetary species might be crucial for survival and progress. However, there are opposing views on this idea being absurd and impractical, while also acknowledging the anti-truths and lies.

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In this transcript excerpt, the speaker discusses the ethical dilemma of choosing to save hypothetical poor people in the future versus actual poor people who may suffer the consequences of climate change in the present.
45:41 - 52:58 (07:17)
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Climate Change
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In this transcript excerpt, the speaker discusses the ethical dilemma of choosing to save hypothetical poor people in the future versus actual poor people who may suffer the consequences of climate change in the present.

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Michael Jahn discusses the Dutch famine that occurred after WWII and highlights the importance of allowing farmers to be productive without government interference, as centralizing politicians can destabilize the industry and cause long-term economic damage.
52:58 - 57:02 (04:03)
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Food Industry
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Michael Jahn discusses the Dutch famine that occurred after WWII and highlights the importance of allowing farmers to be productive without government interference, as centralizing politicians can destabilize the industry and cause long-term economic damage.

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People use the term Nazi to mean different things, and in some conflicts, it is used by both sides to refer to their opponents.
57:02 - 1:06:21 (09:18)
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Nazi
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People use the term Nazi to mean different things, and in some conflicts, it is used by both sides to refer to their opponents. The spirit of resentment can lead to misery and destruction.

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Justin Murphy talks about the pressure he faced to join the left and how his family was put at risk due to his beliefs.
1:06:21 - 1:12:52 (06:31)
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Politics
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Justin Murphy talks about the pressure he faced to join the left and how his family was put at risk due to his beliefs. He also discusses an intellectual challenge to assess if the Prime Minister of Canada wants the best for the country.

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The speaker expresses their interest in conducting an interview with a political figure they have criticized in the past, in an attempt to understand their perspective and challenge their own assumptions.
1:12:53 - 1:20:42 (07:49)
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Politics
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The speaker expresses their interest in conducting an interview with a political figure they have criticized in the past, in an attempt to understand their perspective and challenge their own assumptions. They also wonder whether power has had an effect on the figure's behavior.

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Efficiency shouldn't only rationally apply to success.
1:20:42 - 1:24:43 (04:00)
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Efficiency
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Efficiency shouldn't only rationally apply to success. Poor farmers need the same incentives and perhaps the nitrogen harming our planet may not be required anymore.

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The speaker discusses his views on Putin's psychology, including the possibility of him being a psychopathic manipulator and the dangers of propaganda.
1:24:43 - 1:32:47 (08:04)
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Putin
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The speaker discusses his views on Putin's psychology, including the possibility of him being a psychopathic manipulator and the dangers of propaganda.

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The challenges of being a congressman include fundraising, campaigning every two years, and facing opposition from both enemies and friends.
1:32:47 - 1:38:33 (05:45)
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Congress
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The challenges of being a congressman include fundraising, campaigning every two years, and facing opposition from both enemies and friends. However, it is not an easy job to get and most congressmen are impressive individuals despite the difficulties.

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Comedian shares tips for preparing new material by testing and adjusting it through multiple shows, paying attention to audience reactions and cutting out what doesn't work.
1:38:33 - 1:43:05 (04:31)
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Comedy
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Comedian shares tips for preparing new material by testing and adjusting it through multiple shows, paying attention to audience reactions and cutting out what doesn't work.

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The speaker shares a glimpse into his daily routine as a traveling lecturer, including lunch in the hotel room with an air fryer, exploring the city, and sitting for an hour before his lecture.
1:43:05 - 1:47:45 (04:40)
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Travel, Lecturing
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The speaker shares a glimpse into his daily routine as a traveling lecturer, including lunch in the hotel room with an air fryer, exploring the city, and sitting for an hour before his lecture.

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The fundamental principle of reality is the Logos, which is also the basis of science, according to the biblical claim.
1:47:45 - 1:51:23 (03:37)
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Science
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The fundamental principle of reality is the Logos, which is also the basis of science, according to the biblical claim. Science may be based on matter, but deep down, there is a Logos that underlies all of it.

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In this podcast, the relationship between power and reciprocity is discussed, with reference to recent discoveries about chimpanzees being the best peacemakers and the most reciprocal.
1:51:23 - 1:58:15 (06:52)
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Power and Reciprocity
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In this podcast, the relationship between power and reciprocity is discussed, with reference to recent discoveries about chimpanzees being the best peacemakers and the most reciprocal. The conversation also touches on the principle of sovereignty and how it relates to these discoveries.

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The speaker talks about their experience with being recognized and loved by people while also dealing with imposter syndrome and feeling like they don't deserve it.
1:58:15 - 2:03:50 (05:34)
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Managing Attention
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The speaker talks about their experience with being recognized and loved by people while also dealing with imposter syndrome and feeling like they don't deserve it. They also mention how going to their cottage helps them unwind from the weirdness of being recognized everywhere.

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The speaker shares a typical day in her life on a tour, which includes meetings with cultural representatives, networking with key decision-makers, and constantly being on point to make lasting connections.
2:03:50 - 2:09:20 (05:30)
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Networking
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The speaker shares a typical day in her life on a tour, which includes meetings with cultural representatives, networking with key decision-makers, and constantly being on point to make lasting connections.

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The speaker discusses their experience with low-carb, meat-heavy diets and the benefits of fasting for mental clarity.
2:09:20 - 2:16:30 (07:10)
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Low-Carb Diets
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The speaker discusses their experience with low-carb, meat-heavy diets and the benefits of fasting for mental clarity.

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In this podcast, the host talks about how to find solutions for life's annoyances by asking questions and searching for answers that can help make things better.
2:16:30 - 2:20:10 (03:39)
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Self-improvement
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In this podcast, the host talks about how to find solutions for life's annoyances by asking questions and searching for answers that can help make things better.

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In this episode, Marc Lesser shares his insights on mindful communication and how to use language as a tool to connect with yourself and others in a more meaningful way.
2:20:10 - 2:23:05 (02:55)
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Mindful communication
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In this episode, Marc Lesser shares his insights on mindful communication and how to use language as a tool to connect with yourself and others in a more meaningful way.

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The speaker was initially interested in pursuing psychiatry to understand the human mind until they discovered the world of artificial intelligence, which fascinated them.
2:23:05 - 2:28:34 (05:28)
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Psychology & Artificial Intelligence
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The speaker was initially interested in pursuing psychiatry to understand the human mind until they discovered the world of artificial intelligence, which fascinated them. They now discuss the connection between psychology and AI on a podcast episode.

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The voluntary exposure in measured proportions to things that terrify us can be curative.
2:28:34 - 2:40:19 (11:44)
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Depression
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The voluntary exposure in measured proportions to things that terrify us can be curative. Taking on responsibilities is doing something for yourself while doing something for other people, which is building a community across time.

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Taking an entry-level job can lead to success if you learn from it and work hard at it.
2:40:19 - 2:44:16 (03:57)
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Career
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Taking an entry-level job can lead to success if you learn from it and work hard at it. Developing social skills and learning how to handle boss-employee relationships are just some of the ways that you can move up in a company.

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The episode discusses how communication issues between partners can arise due to external factors such as work stress and how these can lead to fights and problems in the relationship.
2:44:16 - 2:51:42 (07:25)
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Relationships
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The episode discusses how communication issues between partners can arise due to external factors such as work stress and how these can lead to fights and problems in the relationship.

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The line between good and evil runs through every human being, and it is important to tread lightly when dealing with dangerous individuals, even if they appear to be all bad or all good.
2:51:42 - 2:56:32 (04:50)
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Philosophy
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The line between good and evil runs through every human being, and it is important to tread lightly when dealing with dangerous individuals, even if they appear to be all bad or all good. Trust is crucial, but it must be approached with caution.

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In this episode, the host discusses the idea of truth and cynicism with a focus on the book Crime and Punishment by Fyodor Dostoevsky.
2:56:32 - 3:08:40 (12:07)
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Literature
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In this episode, the host discusses the idea of truth and cynicism with a focus on the book Crime and Punishment by Fyodor Dostoevsky. Sharing their personal experiences with the text, the host reflects on the characters' struggles and personal growth.

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Jordan Peterson talks about how all the characters we see in religious stories, including the prisoner, the interrogator, Judas, and Pontius Pilate exist inside of us, and how we can find the love within ourselves by looking within.
3:08:40 - 3:09:31 (00:50)
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Self-Reflection
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Jordan Peterson talks about how all the characters we see in religious stories, including the prisoner, the interrogator, Judas, and Pontius Pilate exist inside of us, and how we can find the love within ourselves by looking within.

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#313 – Jordan Peterson: Life, Death, Power, Fame, and Meaning
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