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Part Two: Elizabeth Holmes: The CEO Who Treated Your Blood Like a Phone
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46:58
Published: Thu Apr 04 2019
Description

If you watch any documentaries about Holmes, or read much of the more sensational coverage about her life, you are left with a question: how did she trick so many prominent, intelligent people  into believing her smoke and mirrors were real, functioning technology? In Part Two, Robert is joined again by Jamie Loftus and they examine this question and continue to discuss Elizabeth Holmes.  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The podcast episode continues the discussion on Elizabeth Holmes, the founder of Theranos, and how she duped investors, patients, and employees.
00:00 - 01:05 (01:05)
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Elizabeth Holmes
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The podcast episode continues the discussion on Elizabeth Holmes, the founder of Theranos, and how she duped investors, patients, and employees. This part of the podcast focuses on her personal life and how it was just as fraudulent as her business.

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Part Two: Elizabeth Holmes: The CEO Who Treated Your Blood Like a Phone
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Behind the Bastards
This transcript involves multiple topics from speculation of Elizabeth Holmes to the strength of a leader's vision in the military.
01:05 - 04:09 (03:04)
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Speculation, Leadership
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This transcript involves multiple topics from speculation of Elizabeth Holmes to the strength of a leader's vision in the military.

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Part Two: Elizabeth Holmes: The CEO Who Treated Your Blood Like a Phone
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Behind the Bastards
The episode discusses the performance of female entrepreneurs and how some of them adjust their appearance and voice to be more like their male counterparts in order to be taken seriously in a male-dominated industry.
04:09 - 08:09 (04:00)
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Female entrepreneurs
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The episode discusses the performance of female entrepreneurs and how some of them adjust their appearance and voice to be more like their male counterparts in order to be taken seriously in a male-dominated industry.

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Part Two: Elizabeth Holmes: The CEO Who Treated Your Blood Like a Phone
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Behind the Bastards
Investors often search for the easiest and least challenging version of what they think is feminism and mistake it for genuine support.
08:09 - 11:49 (03:39)
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Feminism
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Investors often search for the easiest and least challenging version of what they think is feminism and mistake it for genuine support. This can lead to support of individuals who engage in problematic behavior, ultimately failing to meet the minimum requirements for genuine feminism.

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Part Two: Elizabeth Holmes: The CEO Who Treated Your Blood Like a Phone
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The Fortune article highlighted that many top political leaders are endorsing Biden, which could help him win the 2020 US Presidential Election.
11:49 - 16:17 (04:28)
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Joe Biden
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The Fortune article highlighted that many top political leaders are endorsing Biden, which could help him win the 2020 US Presidential Election. Additionally, the podcasters discuss the similarities between the distinguished board of Biden's campaign and the con of Theranos.

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Part Two: Elizabeth Holmes: The CEO Who Treated Your Blood Like a Phone
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Behind the Bastards
The discussion revolves around the importance of ethics and conscience in the Elizabeth Holmes case and the exposing of medical company information.
16:17 - 21:26 (05:08)
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Ethics
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The discussion revolves around the importance of ethics and conscience in the Elizabeth Holmes case and the exposing of medical company information.

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Part Two: Elizabeth Holmes: The CEO Who Treated Your Blood Like a Phone
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Behind the Bastards
The speaker compares Elizabeth Holmes' lack of critical thinking with Steve Jobs' ability to pivot his company.
21:26 - 26:59 (05:33)
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Technology
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The speaker compares Elizabeth Holmes' lack of critical thinking with Steve Jobs' ability to pivot his company. The speaker is unsure whether Steve Jobs is good or bad.

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Part Two: Elizabeth Holmes: The CEO Who Treated Your Blood Like a Phone
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The transcript covers a farewell speech given by Elizabeth Holmes during a company party.
26:59 - 29:49 (02:50)
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Theranos
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The transcript covers a farewell speech given by Elizabeth Holmes during a company party. The speech followed the deal with Safeway, and Holmes discussed her skills in obtaining investment and motivating employees, despite the controversy surrounding the company.

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Part Two: Elizabeth Holmes: The CEO Who Treated Your Blood Like a Phone
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Behind the Bastards
The speaker shares his disappointment in the Wall Street Journal for publishing a piece on Theranos, despite being sent over a thousand pages of documentation that demonstrated its inaccuracies.
29:49 - 35:53 (06:04)
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Theranos
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The speaker shares his disappointment in the Wall Street Journal for publishing a piece on Theranos, despite being sent over a thousand pages of documentation that demonstrated its inaccuracies. They debunked the sources used and their lack of credibility, but still failed to provide a compelling rebuttal to the truth that was shared about Theranos' problems.

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Part Two: Elizabeth Holmes: The CEO Who Treated Your Blood Like a Phone
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Elizabeth Holmes, founder of biotech startup Theranos, had a bizarre way of acting like nothing was wrong as her company was exposed for fraudulent activities.
35:53 - 39:29 (03:36)
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Theranos scandal
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Elizabeth Holmes, founder of biotech startup Theranos, had a bizarre way of acting like nothing was wrong as her company was exposed for fraudulent activities. Homes adopted a husky puppy and named it Balto, even as she faced lawsuits and backlash over her company's misbehavior.

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Part Two: Elizabeth Holmes: The CEO Who Treated Your Blood Like a Phone
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The tech industry often ignores reality in order to gain attention and seduce the tech press, who are predominantly white men.
39:29 - 44:41 (05:12)
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Tech Industry
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The tech industry often ignores reality in order to gain attention and seduce the tech press, who are predominantly white men. They do this by making outlandish claims about changing the world, such as getting frozen yogurt to companies more efficiently.

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The speaker expresses their hopes that Mindy Kaling will take on new creative challenges, such as writing a novel addressing America's race problem or starting a lifestyle comedy.
44:41 - 47:07 (02:26)
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Mindy Kaling
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The speaker expresses their hopes that Mindy Kaling will take on new creative challenges, such as writing a novel addressing America's race problem or starting a lifestyle comedy.

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Part Two: Elizabeth Holmes: The CEO Who Treated Your Blood Like a Phone
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The speaker expresses regret for mispronouncing Steve Jobs' name but does not apologize for it.
47:07 - 49:51 (02:44)
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Steve Jobs, Peter Thiel, Immigration Control
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The speaker expresses regret for mispronouncing Steve Jobs' name but does not apologize for it. They then discuss Peter Thiel's involvement in using Tolkien-inspired language to aid in tracking undocumented immigrants.

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Part Two: Elizabeth Holmes: The CEO Who Treated Your Blood Like a Phone
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Behind the Bastards