Episode

#107: The Scariest Navy SEAL I've Ever Met...And What He Taught Me
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Jocko Willink (@jockowillink) is one of the scariest human beings imaginable. He is a lean 230 pounds. He is a Brazilian jiu-jitsu expert who used to tap out 20 Navy SEALs per workout. He is a legend in the Special Operations world. His eyes look through you more than at you. He rarely does interviews, if ever. But a few weeks ago, Jocko ended up staying at my house and we had a caffeinated mind meld. Here's some background... Jocko enlisted in the Navy after high school and spent 20 years in the SEAL Teams, first as an enlisted SEAL operator and then as a SEAL officer. During his second tour in Iraq, he led SEAL Task Unit Bruiser in the Battle of Ramadi--some of the toughest and sustained combat in the SEAL Teams since Vietnam. Under his leadership, Task Unit Bruiser became the most highly decorated Special Operations Unit of the entire war in Iraq and helped bring stability to Ramadi. Jocko was awarded the Bronze Star and a Silver Star. Upon returning to the United States, Jocko served as the Officer-in-Charge of training for all West Coast SEAL Teams, designing and implementing some of the most challenging and realistic combat training in the world. So why is Jocko opening up? Well, in part, we have mutual friends. Second, he is the co-author of an incredible new book — Extreme Ownership: How U.S. Navy SEALs Lead and Win -- which I've been loving. Trust me. Buy it. This is his first mainstream interview and one you won't want to miss. Show notes and links for this episode can be found at www.fourhourworkweek.com/podcast. This podcast is brought to you by Wealthfront. Wealthfront is a massively disruptive (in a good way) set-it-and-forget-it investing service, led by technologists from places like Apple and world-famous investors. It has exploded in popularity in the last 2 years, and now has more than $2.5B under management. In fact, some of my good investor friends in Silicon Valley have millions of their own money in Wealthfront. Why? Because you can get services previously limited to the ultra-wealthy and only pay pennies on the dollar for them, and it’s all through smarter software instead of retail locations and bloated sales teams Check out wealthfront.com/tim, take their risk assessment quiz, which only takes 2-5 minutes, and they’ll show you—for free–exactly the portfolio they’d put you in. If you want to just take their advice and do it yourself, you can. Or, as I would, you can set it and forget it. Well worth a few minutes: wealthfront.com/tim. Mandatory disclaimer: Wealthfront Inc. is an SEC registered Investment Advisor. Investing in securities involves risks, and there is the possibility of losing money. Past performance is no guarantee of future results. Please visit Wealthfront dot com to read their full disclosure. This podcast is also brought to you by 99Designs, the world’s largest marketplace of graphic designers. Did you know I used 99Designs to rapid prototype the cover for The 4-Hour Body? Here are some of the impressive results. Click this link and get a free $99 upgrade. Give it a test run... ***If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes? It takes less than 60 seconds, and it really makes a difference in helping to convince hard-to-get guests. I also love reading the reviews!For show notes and past guests, please visit tim.blog/podcast.Sign up for Tim’s email newsletter (“5-Bullet Friday”) at tim.blog/friday.For transcripts of episodes, go to tim.blog/transcripts.Interested in sponsoring the podcast? Visit tim.blog/sponsor and fill out the form.Discover Tim’s books: tim.blog/books.Follow Tim:Twitter: twitter.com/tferriss Instagram: instagram.com/timferrissFacebook: facebook.com/timferriss YouTube: youtube.com/timferrissPast guests on The Tim Ferriss Show include Jerry Seinfeld, Hugh Jackman, Dr. Jane Goodall, LeBron James, Kevin Hart, Doris Kearns Goodwin, Jamie Foxx, Matthew McConaughey, Esther Perel, Elizabeth Gilbert, Terry Crews, Sia, Yuval Noah Harari, Malcolm Gladwell, Madeleine Albright, Cheryl Strayed, Jim Collins, Mary Karr, Maria Popova, Sam Harris, Michael Phelps, Bob Iger, Edward Norton, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Neil Strauss, Ken Burns, Maria Sharapova, Marc Andreessen, Neil Gaiman, Neil de Grasse Tyson, Jocko Willink, Daniel Ek, Kelly Slater, Dr. Peter Attia, Seth Godin, Howard Marks, Dr. Brené Brown, Eric Schmidt, Michael Lewis, Joe Gebbia, Michael Pollan, Dr. Jordan Peterson, Vince Vaughn, Brian Koppelman, Ramit Sethi, Dax Shepard, Tony Robbins, Jim Dethmer, Dan Harris, Ray Dalio, Naval Ravikant, Vitalik Buterin, Elizabeth Lesser, Amanda Palmer, Katie Haun, Sir Richard Branson, Chuck Palahniuk, Arianna Huffington, Reid Hoffman, Bill Burr, Whitney Cummings, Rick Rubin, Dr. Vivek Murthy, Darren Aronofsky, and many more.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Tim Ferriss and Jaco Willink exchange greetings and Tim introduces his podcast with an ad for his email newsletter, 5 Bullet Friday.
00:00 - 00:40 (00:40)
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Tim Ferriss and Jaco Willink exchange greetings and Tim introduces his podcast with an ad for his email newsletter, 5 Bullet Friday.
Episode#107: The Scariest Navy SEAL I've Ever Met...And What He Taught Me
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
Tim Ferriss deconstructs world-class performers to find the commonalities at the top of their respective fields.
00:40 - 08:02 (07:22)
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Tim Ferriss deconstructs world-class performers to find the commonalities at the top of their respective fields. Every Friday, he sends out 5 bullet points of the coolest things he's found throughout the week, which includes apps, books, documentaries, supplements, gadgets, and more.
Episode#107: The Scariest Navy SEAL I've Ever Met...And What He Taught Me
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
The host and former Navy SEAL David Goggins discuss his experience in the military and how he managed to stay alert, focused and energized through caffeine consumption during deployments.
08:02 - 13:26 (05:24)
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The host and former Navy SEAL David Goggins discuss his experience in the military and how he managed to stay alert, focused and energized through caffeine consumption during deployments.
Episode#107: The Scariest Navy SEAL I've Ever Met...And What He Taught Me
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
A former Navy SEAL talks about the importance of physical combat in the SEALs and how his instructor taught him and his team Jiu-Jitsu techniques in 1993.
13:26 - 21:32 (08:06)
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A former Navy SEAL talks about the importance of physical combat in the SEALs and how his instructor taught him and his team Jiu-Jitsu techniques in 1993.
Episode#107: The Scariest Navy SEAL I've Ever Met...And What He Taught Me
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
The speaker explains the objectives of Navy boot camp and the BUD/S phase, which is often associated with disqualification from becoming a Navy SEAL.
21:32 - 27:36 (06:03)
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The speaker explains the objectives of Navy boot camp and the BUD/S phase, which is often associated with disqualification from becoming a Navy SEAL. He also shares personal experience of going through these two phases as someone who grew up in a different environment than most of his peers.
Episode#107: The Scariest Navy SEAL I've Ever Met...And What He Taught Me
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
The speaker reflects on his military deployment and how growing up with the influence of mantras from war movies and hardcore music shaped his perception of being a "rock star" while capturing bad guys during his deployments.
27:36 - 32:59 (05:23)
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The speaker reflects on his military deployment and how growing up with the influence of mantras from war movies and hardcore music shaped his perception of being a "rock star" while capturing bad guys during his deployments.
Episode#107: The Scariest Navy SEAL I've Ever Met...And What He Taught Me
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
The speaker recounts his experience of encountering coordinated and vicious attacks that involved machine gun fire and rocket propelled grenades.
33:00 - 37:31 (04:31)
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The speaker recounts his experience of encountering coordinated and vicious attacks that involved machine gun fire and rocket propelled grenades. The goal of the enemy was to get a suicide vehicle and detonate it within the compound in order to maximize damage and casualties.
Episode#107: The Scariest Navy SEAL I've Ever Met...And What He Taught Me
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
Colonel McFarland's dangerous new strategy for winning in Iraq demanded an open-minded approach and willingness to take casualties, balanced with a clear vision of what victory would look like.
37:31 - 46:10 (08:38)
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Colonel McFarland's dangerous new strategy for winning in Iraq demanded an open-minded approach and willingness to take casualties, balanced with a clear vision of what victory would look like.
Episode#107: The Scariest Navy SEAL I've Ever Met...And What He Taught Me
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
Amongst the 35 seals under command, there were varying levels of expertise, with around a dozen never having deployed before, while others had deployed to Iraq one, two, or three times.
46:11 - 51:25 (05:13)
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Amongst the 35 seals under command, there were varying levels of expertise, with around a dozen never having deployed before, while others had deployed to Iraq one, two, or three times.
Episode#107: The Scariest Navy SEAL I've Ever Met...And What He Taught Me
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
Good leaders have the ability to balance opposing forces and dichotomies of leadership.
51:25 - 58:23 (06:58)
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Good leaders have the ability to balance opposing forces and dichotomies of leadership. They can identify when they are going too far in one direction and adjust accordingly while still remaining humble.
Episode#107: The Scariest Navy SEAL I've Ever Met...And What He Taught Me
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
The speaker discusses an advanced laser tag system they used for exercises and how tough lessons are learned through life experiences.
58:23 - 1:07:44 (09:20)
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The speaker discusses an advanced laser tag system they used for exercises and how tough lessons are learned through life experiences.
Episode#107: The Scariest Navy SEAL I've Ever Met...And What He Taught Me
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
In the podcast, the speaker talks about his training, which includes lifting for strength, metabolic conditioning and sparring, and mentions how he lives a compartmentalized life where his various groups of friends do not interact with each other.
1:07:44 - 1:17:49 (10:04)
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In the podcast, the speaker talks about his training, which includes lifting for strength, metabolic conditioning and sparring, and mentions how he lives a compartmentalized life where his various groups of friends do not interact with each other.
Episode#107: The Scariest Navy SEAL I've Ever Met...And What He Taught Me
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
The speaker shares their personal experience regarding the impact of choosing between their family and career, and the unbalanced nature of it.
1:17:49 - 1:27:12 (09:22)
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The speaker shares their personal experience regarding the impact of choosing between their family and career, and the unbalanced nature of it.
Episode#107: The Scariest Navy SEAL I've Ever Met...And What He Taught Me
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
The podcast discusses the concept of manliness and how it has changed throughout history.
1:27:12 - 1:37:16 (10:04)
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The podcast discusses the concept of manliness and how it has changed throughout history.
Episode#107: The Scariest Navy SEAL I've Ever Met...And What He Taught Me
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
Training with highly skilled individuals can instill confidence and humility, as well as provide the opportunity to learn and become better at a specific activity or skill.
1:37:16 - 1:41:21 (04:04)
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Training with highly skilled individuals can instill confidence and humility, as well as provide the opportunity to learn and become better at a specific activity or skill.
Episode#107: The Scariest Navy SEAL I've Ever Met...And What He Taught Me
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
The speaker recommends the book "About Face" to his friends as an important read, as it emphasises the need for a change in war tactics in order to succeed.
1:41:21 - 1:45:17 (03:55)
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The speaker recommends the book "About Face" to his friends as an important read, as it emphasises the need for a change in war tactics in order to succeed.
Episode#107: The Scariest Navy SEAL I've Ever Met...And What He Taught Me
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
The speaker discusses the misconception that businesses have about military leadership and the importance of understanding the darkness of the world to appreciate the good in life based on a historical novel about the Glanton Gang's massacring of Indigenous people.
1:45:17 - 1:52:01 (06:44)
Summary
The speaker discusses the misconception that businesses have about military leadership and the importance of understanding the darkness of the world to appreciate the good in life based on a historical novel about the Glanton Gang's massacring of Indigenous people.
Episode#107: The Scariest Navy SEAL I've Ever Met...And What He Taught Me
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
The speaker reflects on the courage and sacrifice involved in battles, drawing parallels between the conflicts of WWII and insurgent counterinsurgency warfare.
1:52:01 - 1:55:49 (03:48)
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The speaker reflects on the courage and sacrifice involved in battles, drawing parallels between the conflicts of WWII and insurgent counterinsurgency warfare.
Episode#107: The Scariest Navy SEAL I've Ever Met...And What He Taught Me
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
A former Navy SEAL discusses the importance of passing on lessons learned during his time serving and how discipline can result in more freedom.
1:55:49 - 2:02:58 (07:08)
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A former Navy SEAL discusses the importance of passing on lessons learned during his time serving and how discipline can result in more freedom.
Episode#107: The Scariest Navy SEAL I've Ever Met...And What He Taught Me
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
The speaker discusses how every business has different elements such as an operational group, manufacturing group, and sales group, and how people have different opinions about bosses within the company.
2:02:58 - 2:11:08 (08:10)
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The speaker discusses how every business has different elements such as an operational group, manufacturing group, and sales group, and how people have different opinions about bosses within the company. The feedback received is people find different chapters in books more helpful than others based on their interests.
Episode#107: The Scariest Navy SEAL I've Ever Met...And What He Taught Me
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
The speaker believes that people can be very risk averse and he thinks that taking enough shots while constantly capping your downside can lead to a disproportionate upside.
2:11:08 - 2:22:22 (11:13)
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The speaker believes that people can be very risk averse and he thinks that taking enough shots while constantly capping your downside can lead to a disproportionate upside.
Episode#107: The Scariest Navy SEAL I've Ever Met...And What He Taught Me
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
A discussion about the timeless appeal of Black Sabbath and the importance of continually learning about and appreciating music.
2:22:22 - 2:27:02 (04:40)
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A discussion about the timeless appeal of Black Sabbath and the importance of continually learning about and appreciating music.
Episode#107: The Scariest Navy SEAL I've Ever Met...And What He Taught Me
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
An interview with an entrepreneur who has authored a book that combines lessons and stories to aid learning.
2:27:02 - 2:30:05 (03:03)
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An interview with an entrepreneur who has authored a book that combines lessons and stories to aid learning. The conversation covers how to learn from stories and the resources that the entrepreneur offers for further learning.
Episode#107: The Scariest Navy SEAL I've Ever Met...And What He Taught Me
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
The podcast creator shares tips for investing money in the long term, including tactics like automatic tax loss harvesting, rebalancing, and dividend reinvestment.
2:30:05 - 2:34:35 (04:30)
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The podcast creator shares tips for investing money in the long term, including tactics like automatic tax loss harvesting, rebalancing, and dividend reinvestment. An ad for Wealthfront and 99designs is also inserted, offering a free upgrade and $25 quarterly management fees for assets over $15,000 through the podcast creator's provided links.