Episode
#186 – Bryan Johnson: Kernel Brain-Computer Interfaces
2:37:11
Published: Mon May 24 2021
Description
Bryan Johnson is the founder and CEO of Kernel, OS Fund, and previously Braintree. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: - Four Sigmatic: https://foursigmatic.com/lex and use code LexPod to get up to 60% off - NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/lex to get free product tour - Grammarly: https://grammarly.com/lex to get 20% off premium - ExpressVPN: https://expressvpn.com/lexpod and use code LexPod to get 3 months free EPISODE LINKS: Bryan's Twitter: https://twitter.com/bryan_johnson Bryan's Website: https://www.bryanjohnson.co/ Kernel's Twitter: https://twitter.com/KernelCo Kernel's Website: https://www.kernel.com/ PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: - Check out the sponsors above, it's the best way to support this podcast - Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman - Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman - Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here's the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) - Introduction (06:57) - Kernel Flow demo (16:10) - The future of brain-computer interfaces (49:39) - Existential risk (55:18) - Overcoming depression (1:10:36) - Zeroth principles thinking (1:18:50) - Engineering consciousness (1:25:03) - Privacy (1:29:33) - Neuralink (1:39:11) - Braintree and Venmo (1:54:54) - Eating one meal a day (2:01:07) - Sleep (2:20:49) - Climbing Mount Kilimanjaro (2:27:47) - Advice for young people (2:32:23) - Meaning of life
Chapters
The CEO reflects on the challenges of innovation, such as dealing with uncertainties, taking big risks and facing the possibility of failure while expressing the effect of coffee on his productivity.
00:00 - 03:44 (03:44)
Summary
The CEO reflects on the challenges of innovation, such as dealing with uncertainties, taking big risks and facing the possibility of failure while expressing the effect of coffee on his productivity. He also shares his experience of wearing the Colonel Flow Brain interface and hopes that the mystery of the human mind will be uncovered soon.
Episode#186 – Bryan Johnson: Kernel Brain-Computer Interfaces
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The speaker expresses the need for skepticism towards the surveillance state and acknowledges the potential benefits of tech companies, while also advocating for companies to be more transparent and provide individuals with more control over their personal data.
03:45 - 08:43 (04:57)
Summary
The speaker expresses the need for skepticism towards the surveillance state and acknowledges the potential benefits of tech companies, while also advocating for companies to be more transparent and provide individuals with more control over their personal data.
Episode#186 – Bryan Johnson: Kernel Brain-Computer Interfaces
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The technology of listening to someone has come a long way, now we can record brain activity in real-time with 52 modules, each with one laser and six sensors.
10:41 - 14:34 (03:53)
Summary
The technology of listening to someone has come a long way, now we can record brain activity in real-time with 52 modules, each with one laser and six sensors.
Episode#186 – Bryan Johnson: Kernel Brain-Computer Interfaces
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
This podcast explores the idea of recording an individual's brain which would allow a high-resolution personalized recording that would offer the possibility of mapping an individual's trajectory to provide insights to oneself that would lead to various applications.
14:34 - 26:57 (12:22)
Summary
This podcast explores the idea of recording an individual's brain which would allow a high-resolution personalized recording that would offer the possibility of mapping an individual's trajectory to provide insights to oneself that would lead to various applications. The go-to-marketing strategy is compared to the Drake equation where if technology can build enough quality data, it has the power to extract life-changing and paradigm-shifting discoveries.
Episode#186 – Bryan Johnson: Kernel Brain-Computer Interfaces
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The podcast discusses the importance of valuing human intuition in discovery and the potential of finding one alien civilization through the application of the Drake equation.
26:57 - 31:14 (04:17)
Summary
The podcast discusses the importance of valuing human intuition in discovery and the potential of finding one alien civilization through the application of the Drake equation.
Episode#186 – Bryan Johnson: Kernel Brain-Computer Interfaces
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The combination of information about human behavior with digital consumption can offer insights into the effects of our digital behavior on the physical body.
31:14 - 40:50 (09:36)
Summary
The combination of information about human behavior with digital consumption can offer insights into the effects of our digital behavior on the physical body. Data about the listener such as ranking and rating can be very helpful in building apps like podcast listening apps.
Episode#186 – Bryan Johnson: Kernel Brain-Computer Interfaces
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The speaker talks about how switching to a carnivore diet has positively impacted his mental clarity, happiness, and overall well-being.
40:50 - 46:00 (05:09)
Summary
The speaker talks about how switching to a carnivore diet has positively impacted his mental clarity, happiness, and overall well-being. He emphasizes the importance of listening to your body and doing what feels good rather than following various dietary regimens.
Episode#186 – Bryan Johnson: Kernel Brain-Computer Interfaces
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
With the designing, manufacturing, and distribution of intelligence becoming cheaper, we might be thrown in a situation where we live in a virtual world for fulfillment.
46:00 - 55:18 (09:17)
Summary
With the designing, manufacturing, and distribution of intelligence becoming cheaper, we might be thrown in a situation where we live in a virtual world for fulfillment. This raises questions on what constitutes a 'fulfilling' life.
Episode#186 – Bryan Johnson: Kernel Brain-Computer Interfaces
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
In this episode, the hosts discuss how to deal with depressive thoughts and overcome them using behavioral psychology.
55:18 - 1:01:25 (06:06)
Summary
In this episode, the hosts discuss how to deal with depressive thoughts and overcome them using behavioral psychology. They emphasize the importance of recognizing the biases in our own thinking and understanding how our brains can distort reality.
Episode#186 – Bryan Johnson: Kernel Brain-Computer Interfaces
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
Through meditation practice, many people gain a heightened appreciation for the beauty of everyday life--even something as simple as the movement of a hand or the sight of a cup can evoke deep joy and gratitude.
1:01:25 - 1:07:12 (05:46)
Summary
Through meditation practice, many people gain a heightened appreciation for the beauty of everyday life--even something as simple as the movement of a hand or the sight of a cup can evoke deep joy and gratitude.
Episode#186 – Bryan Johnson: Kernel Brain-Computer Interfaces
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The process of identifying what is impossible and what is possible requires being rigorous and drawing clear lines between both.
1:07:12 - 1:14:56 (07:44)
Summary
The process of identifying what is impossible and what is possible requires being rigorous and drawing clear lines between both. It's important to recognize that very few things are actually impossible.
Episode#186 – Bryan Johnson: Kernel Brain-Computer Interfaces
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The speaker discusses the concept of engineering consciousness and the importance of incorporating zero principle thinking into our cognitive infrastructure.
1:14:56 - 1:23:20 (08:24)
Summary
The speaker discusses the concept of engineering consciousness and the importance of incorporating zero principle thinking into our cognitive infrastructure. They suggest that focusing on human to machine interaction, and creating better guardrails through methodical and quantitative approaches, can lead to more ethical and effective systems.
Episode#186 – Bryan Johnson: Kernel Brain-Computer Interfaces
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
Brain data is considered highly personal and sharing it with companies for advertisement and other purposes in the digital space can pose privacy concerns.
1:23:20 - 1:31:20 (07:59)
Summary
Brain data is considered highly personal and sharing it with companies for advertisement and other purposes in the digital space can pose privacy concerns.
Episode#186 – Bryan Johnson: Kernel Brain-Computer Interfaces
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
Kernel Flow is a new technology that will provide a full screen of information, but the success of this and other emerging technologies ultimately depends on the development and growth of the larger computing ecosystem.
1:31:20 - 1:39:24 (08:04)
Summary
Kernel Flow is a new technology that will provide a full screen of information, but the success of this and other emerging technologies ultimately depends on the development and growth of the larger computing ecosystem. The comparison is drawn to the early days of the Internet, where the number of companies that will be a part of this new ecosystem seems endless.
Episode#186 – Bryan Johnson: Kernel Brain-Computer Interfaces
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The host shares a story of how she went from being in debt and needing a part-time job to finding her life objective of helping others.
1:39:26 - 1:43:41 (04:14)
Summary
The host shares a story of how she went from being in debt and needing a part-time job to finding her life objective of helping others. She discusses the stigma associated with credit card processing and how her goal is to help people instead of just making money.
Episode#186 – Bryan Johnson: Kernel Brain-Computer Interfaces
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The speaker discusses how advancements in payment technologies can be applied to the brain and human interactions.
1:43:41 - 1:53:20 (09:38)
Summary
The speaker discusses how advancements in payment technologies can be applied to the brain and human interactions. He shares his experience building a payments company with the goal of attracting the best merchants rather than becoming the biggest payments company.
Episode#186 – Bryan Johnson: Kernel Brain-Computer Interfaces
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The speaker shares his unique breakfast recipe that consists of super veggie and nutty pudding, a blend of broccoli, cauliflower, and other vegetables, and nuts.
1:53:20 - 1:59:14 (05:53)
Summary
The speaker shares his unique breakfast recipe that consists of super veggie and nutty pudding, a blend of broccoli, cauliflower, and other vegetables, and nuts. The speaker also promotes data-driven diets and prioritizing supplements that are essential for a healthier lifestyle.
Episode#186 – Bryan Johnson: Kernel Brain-Computer Interfaces
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
This podcast conversation explores the importance of optimal sleep and diet for individuals, and how individual differences can impact these needs.
1:59:14 - 2:06:03 (06:48)
Summary
This podcast conversation explores the importance of optimal sleep and diet for individuals, and how individual differences can impact these needs. They discuss specific correlations between last meal times and deep sleep, as well as the role of supplements like fish oil.
Episode#186 – Bryan Johnson: Kernel Brain-Computer Interfaces
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
Making the decision to sacrifice sleep for productivity should be a cost-benefit trade-off.
2:06:03 - 2:11:14 (05:11)
Summary
Making the decision to sacrifice sleep for productivity should be a cost-benefit trade-off. While it may be advantageous to optimize life by going all out for a four-day marathon, not giving a darn about sleep and rest can negatively affect one's brain and overall health.
Episode#186 – Bryan Johnson: Kernel Brain-Computer Interfaces
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The choices we make every day, such as prioritizing deep sleep and thinking long-term, can give us a more fulfilling life.
2:11:15 - 2:18:07 (06:52)
Summary
The choices we make every day, such as prioritizing deep sleep and thinking long-term, can give us a more fulfilling life. By focusing on what will matter 100 or 200 years from now, we can elevate ourselves beyond our current contextual mesh and optimize our lives.
Episode#186 – Bryan Johnson: Kernel Brain-Computer Interfaces
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The speaker shares their personal experience of thinking through hard concepts and how intermittent fasting has enabled them to maintain focus and clarity.
2:18:08 - 2:23:40 (05:32)
Summary
The speaker shares their personal experience of thinking through hard concepts and how intermittent fasting has enabled them to maintain focus and clarity. They address common concerns about energy levels and explain the potential benefits of this dietary practice.
Episode#186 – Bryan Johnson: Kernel Brain-Computer Interfaces
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
After experiencing intense physical pain while hiking and measuring his blood oxygen levels at 50 percent, Brian decided to reconstruct his understanding of reality and go after what he truly wants.
2:23:40 - 2:27:36 (03:56)
Summary
After experiencing intense physical pain while hiking and measuring his blood oxygen levels at 50 percent, Brian decided to reconstruct his understanding of reality and go after what he truly wants.
Episode#186 – Bryan Johnson: Kernel Brain-Computer Interfaces
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
The speaker emphasizes the need to recognize the special and unique qualities of an individual when providing advice, especially in the context of parenting.
2:27:36 - 2:32:26 (04:50)
Summary
The speaker emphasizes the need to recognize the special and unique qualities of an individual when providing advice, especially in the context of parenting. They stress the importance of personalized, empathetic guidance rather than general retail advice.
Episode#186 – Bryan Johnson: Kernel Brain-Computer Interfaces
PodcastLex Fridman Podcast
This podcast episode features a discussion on the role of intelligence in evolution, technological advancements, and the possibility of infinite games in life.
2:32:27 - 2:37:01 (04:34)
Summary
This podcast episode features a discussion on the role of intelligence in evolution, technological advancements, and the possibility of infinite games in life.