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#374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal
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1:53:15
Published: Thu Jun 20 2019
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"The question would be: 'What mastery can you offer?' So have a friend of yours ask that question of you five times, and you'll be sort of surprised at, by the fifth time you get asked that question, and you've had to come up with four other answers before that, what kind of revelation you may have in this archaeological dig." — Chip ConleyAt age 52, after selling the company he founded and ran as CEO for 24 years, rebel boutique hotelier Chip Conley (@chipconley) was looking for a new chapter in life. Then he received a call from the young founders of Airbnb, asking him to help grow their disruptive start-up into a global hospitality giant. He became their head of global hospitality and strategy.Chip is a leading authority at the intersection of psychology and business. He is a New York Times bestselling author, and his latest, Wisdom @ Work: The Making of a Modern Elder, inspired him to build the world's first midlife wisdom school. Located in Baja California Sur, the Modern Elder Academy provides the place and the tools to start reframing a lifetime of experience for what comes next.Click here for the show notes for this episode.***If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes? It takes less than 60 seconds, and it really makes a difference in helping to convince hard-to-get guests. I also love reading the reviews!For show notes and past guests, please visit tim.blog/podcast.Sign up for Tim’s email newsletter (“5-Bullet Friday”) at tim.blog/friday.For transcripts of episodes, go to tim.blog/transcripts.Discover Tim’s books: tim.blog/books.Follow Tim:Twitter: twitter.com/tferriss Instagram: instagram.com/timferrissFacebook: facebook.com/timferriss YouTube: youtube.com/timferrissPast guests on The Tim Ferriss Show include Jerry Seinfeld, Hugh Jackman, Dr. Jane Goodall, LeBron James, Kevin Hart, Doris Kearns Goodwin, Jamie Foxx, Matthew McConaughey, Esther Perel, Elizabeth Gilbert, Terry Crews, Sia, Yuval Noah Harari, Malcolm Gladwell, Madeleine Albright, Cheryl Strayed, Jim Collins, Mary Karr, Maria Popova, Sam Harris, Michael Phelps, Bob Iger, Edward Norton, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Neil Strauss, Ken Burns, Maria Sharapova, Marc Andreessen, Neil Gaiman, Neil de Grasse Tyson, Jocko Willink, Daniel Ek, Kelly Slater, Dr. Peter Attia, Seth Godin, Howard Marks, Dr. Brené Brown, Eric Schmidt, Michael Lewis, Joe Gebbia, Michael Pollan, Dr. Jordan Peterson, Vince Vaughn, Brian Koppelman, Ramit Sethi, Dax Shepard, Tony Robbins, Jim Dethmer, Dan Harris, Ray Dalio, Naval Ravikant, Vitalik Buterin, Elizabeth Lesser, Amanda Palmer, Katie Haun, Sir Richard Branson, Chuck Palahniuk, Arianna Huffington, Reid Hoffman, Bill Burr, Whitney Cummings, Rick Rubin, Dr. Vivek Murthy, Darren Aronofsky, and many more.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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5 Bullet Friday is a weekly newsletter that contains 5 short and action-packed bullet points of cool and interesting things found by the author.
00:00 - 01:59 (01:59)
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Newsletter
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5 Bullet Friday is a weekly newsletter that contains 5 short and action-packed bullet points of cool and interesting things found by the author. It also offers early access to startups, beta testing, special deals, and limited information.

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#374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal
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The Tim Ferriss Show
The speaker discusses his recent diagnosis of intermediate stage prostate cancer and his decision to rely on Western medicine for treatment.
01:59 - 08:20 (06:20)
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Prostate cancer
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The speaker discusses his recent diagnosis of intermediate stage prostate cancer and his decision to rely on Western medicine for treatment.

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#374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal
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The purpose of life is to find your gift and give it away.
08:20 - 13:50 (05:29)
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Self-improvement
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The purpose of life is to find your gift and give it away. This podcast features an individual's journey of finding her gift and the deliberate changes she made to succeed in commercial real estate.

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#374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal
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The Tim Ferriss Show
Two entrepreneurs discuss the benefits of forming a mastermind group, where individuals can have their ideas criticized in a constructive setting, and the ability to learn more than typical coursework.
13:50 - 18:12 (04:22)
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Mastermind Group
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Two entrepreneurs discuss the benefits of forming a mastermind group, where individuals can have their ideas criticized in a constructive setting, and the ability to learn more than typical coursework. They also discuss how their own mastermind group influenced their success in entrepreneurship.

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#374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal
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The Tim Ferriss Show
The speaker talks about how the idea for an urban retreat resort originated during a business school project with Seth, and how it ultimately led to buying a no-tell motel in San Francisco's Tenderloin.
18:12 - 22:37 (04:25)
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Business
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The speaker talks about how the idea for an urban retreat resort originated during a business school project with Seth, and how it ultimately led to buying a no-tell motel in San Francisco's Tenderloin.

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#374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal
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The Tim Ferriss Show
The speaker discusses the benefits of having a morning and afternoon meditation practice, such as regulating oneself and clearing the mind, and recognizes the things in life that improve with time.
22:38 - 31:04 (08:26)
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meditation
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The speaker discusses the benefits of having a morning and afternoon meditation practice, such as regulating oneself and clearing the mind, and recognizes the things in life that improve with time.

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#374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal
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The Tim Ferriss Show
The podcast hosts discuss ways to get the attention of successful people such as Richard Branson and share insights from books like "Joy on Demand" and "Search Inside Yourself."
31:04 - 35:16 (04:11)
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Success
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The podcast hosts discuss ways to get the attention of successful people such as Richard Branson and share insights from books like "Joy on Demand" and "Search Inside Yourself."

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#374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal
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The Tim Ferriss Show
The guest talks about how he utilized marketing strategies to grow his business, including targeting the person who books hotel rooms for touring bands, in order to get more companies interested in his product.
35:16 - 39:19 (04:03)
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Marketing
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The guest talks about how he utilized marketing strategies to grow his business, including targeting the person who books hotel rooms for touring bands, in order to get more companies interested in his product.

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#374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal
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The Tim Ferriss Show
The founder of Hotel Vitaly explains its origin as a health-oriented hotel located in a prime neighborhood in San Francisco, offering features such as a penthouse yoga studio and attracting press attention soon after launching.
39:20 - 46:24 (07:04)
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Hospitality
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The founder of Hotel Vitaly explains its origin as a health-oriented hotel located in a prime neighborhood in San Francisco, offering features such as a penthouse yoga studio and attracting press attention soon after launching.

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#374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal
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The Tim Ferriss Show
Entrepreneurs often tie their sense of self-esteem and self-worth to their businesses, but having a strong support network of people who can help with reputation management is crucial to success.
46:24 - 52:00 (05:35)
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Entrepreneurship
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Entrepreneurs often tie their sense of self-esteem and self-worth to their businesses, but having a strong support network of people who can help with reputation management is crucial to success. Building a positive reputation can help with future business opportunities, rather than simply trying to make a quick profit.

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#374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal
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The Tim Ferriss Show
The founder and former CEO of a large boutique hotel company discusses the challenges of selling a business that has been their identity for most of their adult life, and the importance of moving towards something new to avoid post-retirement depression.
52:00 - 56:06 (04:05)
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Business
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The founder and former CEO of a large boutique hotel company discusses the challenges of selling a business that has been their identity for most of their adult life, and the importance of moving towards something new to avoid post-retirement depression.

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#374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal
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The Tim Ferriss Show
The speaker shares about a dream he had and his experience of collapsing while signing books, leading to a flatline experience for five seconds.
56:06 - 59:50 (03:44)
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Dreams
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The speaker shares about a dream he had and his experience of collapsing while signing books, leading to a flatline experience for five seconds.

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#374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal
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The Tim Ferriss Show
Gary Ridge describes how taking time for reflection and writing down lessons learned can bring meaning to our lives, even during difficult times, and highlights the dangers of the "hedonic treadmill" mentality of always seeking the next new thing without taking time to appreciate what we have.
59:50 - 1:05:28 (05:38)
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Reflection
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Gary Ridge describes how taking time for reflection and writing down lessons learned can bring meaning to our lives, even during difficult times, and highlights the dangers of the "hedonic treadmill" mentality of always seeking the next new thing without taking time to appreciate what we have.

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#374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal
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The Tim Ferriss Show
The speaker reflects on his transition from being a successful hotelier to helping co-founders turn their tech company into a global brand.
1:05:28 - 1:09:48 (04:19)
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Entrepreneurship
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The speaker reflects on his transition from being a successful hotelier to helping co-founders turn their tech company into a global brand. He discusses the importance of being aware of silent intent as an entrepreneur and recognizing the source of one's self-worth.

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#374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal
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The Tim Ferriss Show
The brain may shrink as it ages, affecting recall and quick thinking, but it also becomes more adept at doing left brain, right brain tasks.
1:09:49 - 1:19:38 (09:49)
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Aging Brain
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The brain may shrink as it ages, affecting recall and quick thinking, but it also becomes more adept at doing left brain, right brain tasks. This may lead to the rise of a new category of academia and hospitality real estate, the midlife wisdom school.

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#374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal
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The Tim Ferriss Show
Chip Conley discusses the advantages of hiring older workers, including their ability to distill complex information and their depth of experience.
1:19:38 - 1:28:13 (08:34)
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Older Workers
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Chip Conley discusses the advantages of hiring older workers, including their ability to distill complex information and their depth of experience.

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#374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal
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The Tim Ferriss Show
The book "The Making of a Modern Elder" serves as a scaffolding for individuals to understand who they are beyond their ego.
1:28:13 - 1:33:15 (05:02)
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Self-improvement
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The book "The Making of a Modern Elder" serves as a scaffolding for individuals to understand who they are beyond their ego. Modern elder experiences involve identifying aspects that are important, including family, religious beliefs, contributions to the community, and more.

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#374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal
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The Tim Ferriss Show
A CEO describes his experience coming out as a gay man while running a business and breaking societal norms.
1:33:15 - 1:37:25 (04:10)
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LGBTQ+
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A CEO describes his experience coming out as a gay man while running a business and breaking societal norms.

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#374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal
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The Tim Ferriss Show
The podcast speaker reflects on how having children can change one's behavior and thoughts on parenting, and how gender may influence those perceptions.
1:37:26 - 1:43:59 (06:32)
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Parenting
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The podcast speaker reflects on how having children can change one's behavior and thoughts on parenting, and how gender may influence those perceptions.

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#374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal
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The Tim Ferriss Show
The modern elder is someone who understands the modern day world and knows how to integrate age-old wisdom into modern problems.
1:43:59 - 1:51:49 (07:50)
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Modern Elder
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The modern elder is someone who understands the modern day world and knows how to integrate age-old wisdom into modern problems. A traditional elder is about being revered, but a modern elder focuses on relevance.

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#374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal
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Sign up for Tim Ferriss' Five-Bullet Friday newsletter, a short weekly email that shares the coolest things he's found or been pondering over the week, including new albums, gadgets, and articles.
1:51:49 - 1:53:06 (01:16)
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Tim Ferriss
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Sign up for Tim Ferriss' Five-Bullet Friday newsletter, a short weekly email that shares the coolest things he's found or been pondering over the week, including new albums, gadgets, and articles.

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#374: Chip Conley — Building Empires, Tackling Cancer, and Surfing the Liminal
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The Tim Ferriss Show