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#264: Ray Dalio, The Steve Jobs of Investing
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Ray Dalio (@raydalio) grew up a middle-class kid from Long Island. He started his investment company Bridgewater Associates out of a two-bedroom apartment at age 26, and it now has roughly $160 billion in assets under management. Over 42 years, he has built Bridgewater into what Fortune considers the fifth most important private company in the U.S. Along the way, Dalio became one the 100 most influential people in the world (according to Time) and one of the 100 wealthiest people in the world (according to Forbes). Because of his unique investment principles that have changed industries, aiCIO Magazine called him "the Steve Jobs of investing." Ray believes his success is the result of principles he's learned, codified, and applied to his life and business. Those principles are detailed in his new book Principles: Life and Work. In this interview, we cover a lot, including: How Ray thinks about investment decisions, how he thinks about correlation, etc. The three books he would give to every graduating high school or college senior How he might assess cryptocurrency And much, much more... Enjoy! This podcast is brought to you by Four Sigmatic. I reached out to these Finnish entrepreneurs after a very talented acrobat introduced me to one of their products, which blew my mind (in the best way possible). It is mushroom coffee featuring chaga. It tastes like coffee, but there are only 40 milligrams of caffeine, so it has less than half of what you would find in a regular cup of coffee. I do not get any jitters, acid reflux, or any type of stomach burn. It put me on fire for an entire day, and I only had half of the packet. People are always asking me what I use for cognitive enhancement right now -- this is the answer. You can try it right now by going to foursigmatic.com/tim and using the code Tim to get 20 percent off your first order. If you are in the experimental mindset, I do not think you'll be disappointed. This podcast is brought to you by Athletic Greens. I get asked all the time, "If you could only use one supplement, what would it be?" My answer is, inevitably, Athletic Greens. It is my all-in-one nutritional insurance. I recommended it in The 4-Hour Body and did not get paid to do so. As a listener of The Tim Ferriss Show, you'll get 30 percent off your first order at AthleticGreens.com/Tim. Show notes and links for this episode can be found at tim.blog/podcast.***If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes? It takes less than 60 seconds, and it really makes a difference in helping to convince hard-to-get guests. I also love reading the reviews!For show notes and past guests, please visit tim.blog/podcast.Sign up for Tim’s email newsletter (“5-Bullet Friday”) at tim.blog/friday.For transcripts of episodes, go to tim.blog/transcripts.Interested in sponsoring the podcast? Visit tim.blog/sponsor and fill out the form.Discover Tim’s books: tim.blog/books.Follow Tim:Twitter: twitter.com/tferriss Instagram: instagram.com/timferrissFacebook: facebook.com/timferriss YouTube: youtube.com/timferrissPast guests on The Tim Ferriss Show include Jerry Seinfeld, Hugh Jackman, Dr. Jane Goodall, LeBron James, Kevin Hart, Doris Kearns Goodwin, Jamie Foxx, Matthew McConaughey, Esther Perel, Elizabeth Gilbert, Terry Crews, Sia, Yuval Noah Harari, Malcolm Gladwell, Madeleine Albright, Cheryl Strayed, Jim Collins, Mary Karr, Maria Popova, Sam Harris, Michael Phelps, Bob Iger, Edward Norton, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Neil Strauss, Ken Burns, Maria Sharapova, Marc Andreessen, Neil Gaiman, Neil de Grasse Tyson, Jocko Willink, Daniel Ek, Kelly Slater, Dr. Peter Attia, Seth Godin, Howard Marks, Dr. Brené Brown, Eric Schmidt, Michael Lewis, Joe Gebbia, Michael Pollan, Dr. Jordan Peterson, Vince Vaughn, Brian Koppelman, Ramit Sethi, Dax Shepard, Tony Robbins, Jim Dethmer, Dan Harris, Ray Dalio, Naval Ravikant, Vitalik Buterin, Elizabeth Lesser, Amanda Palmer, Katie Haun, Sir Richard Branson, Chuck Palahniuk, Arianna Huffington, Reid Hoffman, Bill Burr, Whitney Cummings, Rick Rubin, Dr. Vivek Murthy, Darren Aronofsky, and many more.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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This podcast episode features discussions on various topics including personal change, health, and entrepreneurship.
00:00 - 01:02 (01:02)
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This podcast episode features discussions on various topics including personal change, health, and entrepreneurship. It is sponsored by Five Bullet Friday, a weekly email newsletter containing interesting and unique findings from around the world.
Episode#264: Ray Dalio, The Steve Jobs of Investing
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
This podcast includes discussion on Athletic Greens and personal history of the speaker.
01:02 - 10:09 (09:07)
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This podcast includes discussion on Athletic Greens and personal history of the speaker.
Episode#264: Ray Dalio, The Steve Jobs of Investing
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
The podcast explores the importance of learning from mistakes and history, especially when experiencing surprises that have never happened in one's lifetime before.
10:09 - 19:34 (09:25)
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The podcast explores the importance of learning from mistakes and history, especially when experiencing surprises that have never happened in one's lifetime before.
Episode#264: Ray Dalio, The Steve Jobs of Investing
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
The key to a successful and constantly improving workplace is a culture of radical truthfulness and transparency, where all employees, regardless of their position, are given both good and bad feedback in a non-hierarchical way with the ultimate goal of personal growth and improvement.
19:34 - 27:12 (07:38)
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The key to a successful and constantly improving workplace is a culture of radical truthfulness and transparency, where all employees, regardless of their position, are given both good and bad feedback in a non-hierarchical way with the ultimate goal of personal growth and improvement. This leads to an evidence-based and effective approach to decision-making.
Episode#264: Ray Dalio, The Steve Jobs of Investing
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
In this episode, the host discusses the practice of Transcendental Meditation, a technique that takes one from the conscious mind into a subconscious state, promoting relaxation.
27:12 - 33:54 (06:41)
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In this episode, the host discusses the practice of Transcendental Meditation, a technique that takes one from the conscious mind into a subconscious state, promoting relaxation. The host cites famous people who have adopted this technique and their experiences with it, emphasizing its secular nature.
Episode#264: Ray Dalio, The Steve Jobs of Investing
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
The ability to understand how others see things is a powerful tool, enabling appreciation for differing viewpoints and better processing of information.
33:54 - 38:49 (04:55)
Summary
The ability to understand how others see things is a powerful tool, enabling appreciation for differing viewpoints and better processing of information. Perspective taking can transform the way individuals think and communicate, breaking down barriers to create more effective relationships.
Episode#264: Ray Dalio, The Steve Jobs of Investing
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
The founder of Bridgewater Associates reflects on a big win secured with Kodak, which brought greater financial stability to the firm, and discusses the early days of the company and its achievements.
38:49 - 51:54 (13:04)
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The founder of Bridgewater Associates reflects on a big win secured with Kodak, which brought greater financial stability to the firm, and discusses the early days of the company and its achievements.
Episode#264: Ray Dalio, The Steve Jobs of Investing
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
Despite the challenges that come with being bipolar, there are advantages to the way of thinking associated with the disorder.
51:54 - 1:05:27 (13:33)
Summary
Despite the challenges that come with being bipolar, there are advantages to the way of thinking associated with the disorder. Some of the world's most creative and brilliant minds, including Abraham Lincoln, Winston Churchill, and Tchaikovsky, were believed to have been bipolar.
Episode#264: Ray Dalio, The Steve Jobs of Investing
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
In a conversation about books that have had a strong impact on people's thinking, Joseph Campbell's Hero of a Thousand Faces is cited as an influential book along with the writings of historians who documented five thousand years of history.
1:05:27 - 1:12:38 (07:10)
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In a conversation about books that have had a strong impact on people's thinking, Joseph Campbell's Hero of a Thousand Faces is cited as an influential book along with the writings of historians who documented five thousand years of history.
Episode#264: Ray Dalio, The Steve Jobs of Investing
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
When trying to understand someone's behavior, it's important to pull every thread and see the connections, even if it means going against your initial opinion.
1:12:38 - 1:18:37 (05:59)
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When trying to understand someone's behavior, it's important to pull every thread and see the connections, even if it means going against your initial opinion. This approach helps to get the right opinion without any confirmation bias.
Episode#264: Ray Dalio, The Steve Jobs of Investing
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
Investing in 15 good uncorrelated bets can reduce your risk by over 80%, unlike diversifying with correlated investments, which only lowers your risk by roughly 15%.
1:18:37 - 1:28:35 (09:58)
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Investing in 15 good uncorrelated bets can reduce your risk by over 80%, unlike diversifying with correlated investments, which only lowers your risk by roughly 15%.
Episode#264: Ray Dalio, The Steve Jobs of Investing
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
To increase the probability of being right in investments, it is crucial to not be overly confident and gather triangulation.
1:28:35 - 1:38:28 (09:53)
Summary
To increase the probability of being right in investments, it is crucial to not be overly confident and gather triangulation. Determining correlations between various markets can be achieved using previous movements or assessing their intrinsic differences.
Episode#264: Ray Dalio, The Steve Jobs of Investing
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
The reasons why people buy and sell in different markets vary, it's not just about making money.
1:38:28 - 1:45:23 (06:54)
Summary
The reasons why people buy and sell in different markets vary, it's not just about making money. This is different from value investing which focuses on future cash flows of an investment.
Episode#264: Ray Dalio, The Steve Jobs of Investing
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
This podcast discusses the basics of investing, including diversification and hedging against company-specific risk by consulting an investment bank.
1:45:23 - 1:58:02 (12:39)
Summary
This podcast discusses the basics of investing, including diversification and hedging against company-specific risk by consulting an investment bank.
Episode#264: Ray Dalio, The Steve Jobs of Investing
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
The Five Bullet Friday Newsletter is a weekly email that provides readers with a handful of interesting and cool discoveries or ideas to ponder over the weekend.
1:58:02 - 2:03:26 (05:24)
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The Five Bullet Friday Newsletter is a weekly email that provides readers with a handful of interesting and cool discoveries or ideas to ponder over the weekend. It's a chance to unplug from work and start the weekend with something fun and thought-provoking.
Episode#264: Ray Dalio, The Steve Jobs of Investing
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
This podcast episode includes advertisements for Four Sigmatic and Athletic Greens, offering discounts to listeners.
2:03:27 - 2:06:41 (03:13)
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This podcast episode includes advertisements for Four Sigmatic and Athletic Greens, offering discounts to listeners.