Episode

#366 – Shannon Curry: Johnny Depp & Amber Heard Trial, Marriage, Dating & Love
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1:50:54
Published: Tue Mar 21 2023
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Dr. Shannon Curry is a clinical and forensic psychologist who conducts research, therapy, and clinical evaluation pertaining to trauma, violence, and relationships. She testified in the Johnny Depp and Amber Heard trial. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: - Factor: https://factormeals.com/lex50 and use code lex50 to get 50% off your first box - BetterHelp: https://betterhelp.com/lex to get 10% off - House of Macadamias: https://houseofmacadamias.com/lex and use code LEX to get 20% off your first order EPISODE LINKS: Shannon's Instagram: https://instagram.com/currypsychgroup Curry Psychology Group: https://currypsychology.com/ PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: - Check out the sponsors above, it's the best way to support this podcast - Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman - Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman - Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here's the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) - Introduction (05:41) - Starting a relationship (09:40) - Couples therapy (16:57) - Why relationships fail (24:15) - Drama in relationships (29:42) - Success in relationships (36:06) - Dating (44:42) - Sex (46:36) - Cheating (55:37) - Polyamory (57:28) - Johnny Depp and Amber Heard trial (1:26:06) - Forensic psychology (1:36:16) - PTSD (1:45:51) - Advice for young people (1:48:42) - Love

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The host speaks with Shannon Curry, a clinical and forensic psychologist known for her role in the Johnny Depp and Amber Heard trial, about trauma, violence, and relationships.
00:00 - 01:24 (01:24)
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Psychology
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The host speaks with Shannon Curry, a clinical and forensic psychologist known for her role in the Johnny Depp and Amber Heard trial, about trauma, violence, and relationships. The conversation delves into complex psychological concepts and evaluation procedures.

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#366 – Shannon Curry: Johnny Depp & Amber Heard Trial, Marriage, Dating & Love
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The podcast discusses the ambiguity that exists in identifying different disorders and exploring the gray areas within cleanly.
01:24 - 06:10 (04:45)
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Mental Health, Relationships.
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The podcast discusses the ambiguity that exists in identifying different disorders and exploring the gray areas within cleanly. Additionally, it focuses on relationships and ways to navigate them.

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#366 – Shannon Curry: Johnny Depp & Amber Heard Trial, Marriage, Dating & Love
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The speaker suggests that arranged marriages tend to be more successful in the long run compared to love-based marriages because elders can help select partners with traits that will be appreciated over time.
06:10 - 14:52 (08:42)
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Relationships
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The speaker suggests that arranged marriages tend to be more successful in the long run compared to love-based marriages because elders can help select partners with traits that will be appreciated over time.

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#366 – Shannon Curry: Johnny Depp & Amber Heard Trial, Marriage, Dating & Love
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In heterosexual relationships, women tend to use criticism more often because they're the ones who raise issues verbally.
14:53 - 21:42 (06:49)
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Relationships
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In heterosexual relationships, women tend to use criticism more often because they're the ones who raise issues verbally. Men may feel criticized and stonewall, but this can be a vicious cycle that only ends with effective communication and showing each other care.

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#366 – Shannon Curry: Johnny Depp & Amber Heard Trial, Marriage, Dating & Love
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A couples therapist describes their role in helping straight couples communicate effectively by acting as a referee and helping them stay open, humble and avoid agendas.
21:42 - 27:20 (05:37)
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Couples Therapy
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A couples therapist describes their role in helping straight couples communicate effectively by acting as a referee and helping them stay open, humble and avoid agendas. They are able to create an environment where couples can skip several steps and start developing solutions to their problems to make their relationship better.

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#366 – Shannon Curry: Johnny Depp & Amber Heard Trial, Marriage, Dating & Love
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A podcast host discusses the surprising insight and wisdom that can come from recording and sharing conversations with loved ones, and offers suggestions for using podcasting as a tool for deepening connections with romantic partners.
27:20 - 31:13 (03:52)
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Relationships
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A podcast host discusses the surprising insight and wisdom that can come from recording and sharing conversations with loved ones, and offers suggestions for using podcasting as a tool for deepening connections with romantic partners.

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#366 – Shannon Curry: Johnny Depp & Amber Heard Trial, Marriage, Dating & Love
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Learn to understand your partner's position and see them as a person rather than an adversary.
31:13 - 38:05 (06:51)
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Relationships
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Learn to understand your partner's position and see them as a person rather than an adversary. Tai Tashiro shares his research on how most people approach marriage based on love endorphins.

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#366 – Shannon Curry: Johnny Depp & Amber Heard Trial, Marriage, Dating & Love
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A partner with moderate adventurousness and emotional stability, as well as caring about family and home, leads to greater relationship satisfaction.
38:05 - 43:19 (05:14)
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Relationship Satisfaction
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A partner with moderate adventurousness and emotional stability, as well as caring about family and home, leads to greater relationship satisfaction.

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#366 – Shannon Curry: Johnny Depp & Amber Heard Trial, Marriage, Dating & Love
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The benefits of connecting with high energy individuals, as well as the impact of physical contact and intimacy on our bodies and minds are discussed.
43:20 - 48:07 (04:47)
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Physical Connection
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The benefits of connecting with high energy individuals, as well as the impact of physical contact and intimacy on our bodies and minds are discussed. Even something as simple as a 20-second hug can release oxytocin and increase feelings of happiness and groundedness.

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#366 – Shannon Curry: Johnny Depp & Amber Heard Trial, Marriage, Dating & Love
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Some people believe that sharing their sexual past with their partners strengthens their relationship, while others believe that honesty should not come at the cost of harm to their partner.
48:07 - 53:39 (05:31)
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Relationships
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Some people believe that sharing their sexual past with their partners strengthens their relationship, while others believe that honesty should not come at the cost of harm to their partner. Being honest all the time may not always be beneficial, and context should be considered in determining the value of honesty in a relationship.

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#366 – Shannon Curry: Johnny Depp & Amber Heard Trial, Marriage, Dating & Love
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The hosts discuss the ethical implications of being someone's secondary partner, the discomfort associated with holding a lie, and the challenges that arise when first starting out as a couple in an open relationship.
53:39 - 59:22 (05:43)
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Ethics
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The hosts discuss the ethical implications of being someone's secondary partner, the discomfort associated with holding a lie, and the challenges that arise when first starting out as a couple in an open relationship.

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#366 – Shannon Curry: Johnny Depp & Amber Heard Trial, Marriage, Dating & Love
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The guest speaker talks about the process of conducting personality assessments for court cases and mentions feeling pressure preparing and testifying about his findings.
59:22 - 1:03:36 (04:13)
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Personality Assessment
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The guest speaker talks about the process of conducting personality assessments for court cases and mentions feeling pressure preparing and testifying about his findings. They also express their fascination with the topic.

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#366 – Shannon Curry: Johnny Depp & Amber Heard Trial, Marriage, Dating & Love
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The MMPI personality test is a comprehensive psychometric test used to determine personality traits and mental illnesses.
1:03:36 - 1:09:01 (05:24)
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MMPI Personality Test
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The MMPI personality test is a comprehensive psychometric test used to determine personality traits and mental illnesses. By asking a variety of questions and measuring different scales, the test can give a nuanced understanding of a person's approach to life and their personal relationships.

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#366 – Shannon Curry: Johnny Depp & Amber Heard Trial, Marriage, Dating & Love
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The symptoms of borderline personality disorder include instability and impulsiveness, emotional instability, instability in a person's self-identity, sense of self, and relationships, while histrionic personality disorder involves attention-seeking behavior and manipulation.
1:09:01 - 1:19:49 (10:47)
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Borderline Personality Disorder
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The symptoms of borderline personality disorder include instability and impulsiveness, emotional instability, instability in a person's self-identity, sense of self, and relationships, while histrionic personality disorder involves attention-seeking behavior and manipulation.

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#366 – Shannon Curry: Johnny Depp & Amber Heard Trial, Marriage, Dating & Love
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Amber Heard is a 3-6 code type.
1:19:49 - 1:24:28 (04:39)
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3-6
The consistency between a person's self-report and records is crucial in forensic psychology, and following best practices can lead to more effective examinations.
1:24:29 - 1:29:09 (04:39)
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Forensic Psychology
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The consistency between a person's self-report and records is crucial in forensic psychology, and following best practices can lead to more effective examinations. Delving into the academic side of forensic psychology and adhering to these standards leads to more accurate and reliable assessments.

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#366 – Shannon Curry: Johnny Depp & Amber Heard Trial, Marriage, Dating & Love
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The speaker shares her experience of constantly feeling the pressure of high stakes and explains how she used to believe people who talked about self-care were not capable of pushing themselves, but realized the importance of balancing both to avoid burnout.
1:29:09 - 1:33:50 (04:40)
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Self-care
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The speaker shares her experience of constantly feeling the pressure of high stakes and explains how she used to believe people who talked about self-care were not capable of pushing themselves, but realized the importance of balancing both to avoid burnout.

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#366 – Shannon Curry: Johnny Depp & Amber Heard Trial, Marriage, Dating & Love
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Trauma can have a profound effect on individuals and only a small percentage actually develop PTSD.
1:33:53 - 1:38:37 (04:44)
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PTSD
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Trauma can have a profound effect on individuals and only a small percentage actually develop PTSD. Testifying about her experience triggered a negative reaction for a victim of trauma, highlighting the long-lasting effects of trauma.

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#366 – Shannon Curry: Johnny Depp & Amber Heard Trial, Marriage, Dating & Love
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The podcast discusses how some service members with PTSD find it challenging to disclose their emotions and have racist beliefs, and what it's like to work as a forensic psychologist.
1:38:37 - 1:49:00 (10:22)
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PTSD
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The podcast discusses how some service members with PTSD find it challenging to disclose their emotions and have racist beliefs, and what it's like to work as a forensic psychologist. The speaker also gives advice to young people regarding career choices and finding direction in their lives.

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#366 – Shannon Curry: Johnny Depp & Amber Heard Trial, Marriage, Dating & Love
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The speaker talks about how feeling a deep sense of love for oneself and others can create a feeling of ease and connection, and how negative remarks about oneself can be harmful.
1:49:00 - 1:50:35 (01:35)
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Self-Love
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The speaker talks about how feeling a deep sense of love for oneself and others can create a feeling of ease and connection, and how negative remarks about oneself can be harmful.

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#366 – Shannon Curry: Johnny Depp & Amber Heard Trial, Marriage, Dating & Love
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