Episode
#498: Josh Waitzkin and Tim Ferriss on The Cave Process, Advice from Future Selves, and Training for an Uncertain Future
1:27:33
Published: Tue Feb 16 2021
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Josh Waitzkin and Tim Ferriss on The Cave Process, Advice from Future Selves, and Training for an Uncertain Future | Brought to you by Wealthfront automated investing, Vuori comfortable and durable performance apparel, and Tonal smart home gym. More on all three below. Josh Waitzkin, author of The Art of Learning: An Inner Journey to Optimal Performance, is an eight-time national chess champion, a two-time world champion in Tai Chi Chuan Push Hands, and the first Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu black belt under nine-time world champion Marcelo Garcia.For the past 13 years, Josh has been channeling his passion for the outer limits of the learning process toward training elite mental performers in business and finance and to revolutionizing the education system through his nonprofit foundation, The Art of Learning Project. Josh is currently in the process of taking on his fourth and fifth disciplines, paddle surfing and foiling, and is an all-in father and husband.Please enjoy!*This episode is brought to you by Wealthfront! Wealthfront pioneered the automated investing movement, sometimes referred to as ‘robo-advising,’ and they currently oversee $20 billion of assets for their clients. It takes about three minutes to sign up, and then Wealthfront will build you a globally diversified portfolio of ETFs based on your risk appetite and manage it for you at an incredibly low cost. Smart investing should not feel like a rollercoaster ride. Let the professionals do the work for you. Go to Wealthfront.com/Tim and open a Wealthfront account today, and you’ll get your first $5,000 managed for free, for life. Wealthfront will automate your investments for the long term. Get started today at Wealthfront.com/Tim.*This episode is also brought to you by Vuori clothing! Vuori is a new and fresh perspective on performance apparel. Perfect if you are sick and tired of traditional, old workout gear. Everything is designed for maximum comfort and versatility so that you look and feel as good in everyday life as you do working out.Get yourself some of the most comfortable and versatile clothing on the planet at VuoriClothing.com/Tim. Not only will you receive 20% off your first purchase, but you’ll also enjoy free shipping on any US orders over $75 and free returns.*This episode is also brought to you by Tonal! Tonal is the world’s most intelligent home gym and personal trainer. It is precision engineered and designed to be the world’s most advanced strength studio. Tonal uses breakthrough technology—like adaptive digital weights and A.I. learning—together with the best experts in resistance training so you get stronger, faster. Every program is personalized to your body using A.I., and smart features check your form in real time, just like a personal trainer.Try Tonal, the world’s smartest home gym, for 30 days in your home, and if you don’t love it, you can return it for a full refund. Visit Tonal.com for $100 off their smart accessories when you use promo code TIM21 at checkout.*If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes? It takes less than 60 seconds, and it really makes a difference in helping to convince hard-to-get guests. I also love reading the reviews!For show notes and past guests, please visit tim.blog/podcast.Sign up for Tim’s email newsletter (“5-Bullet Friday”) at tim.blog/friday.For transcripts of episodes, go to tim.blog/transcripts.Discover Tim’s books: tim.blog/books.Follow Tim:Twitter: twitter.com/tferriss Instagram: instagram.com/timferrissFacebook: facebook.com/timferriss YouTube: youtube.com/timferrissPast guests on The Tim Ferriss Show include Jerry Seinfeld, Hugh Jackman, Dr. Jane Goodall, LeBron James, Kevin Hart, Doris Kearns Goodwin, Jamie Foxx, Matthew McConaughey, Esther Perel, Elizabeth Gilbert, Terry Crews, Sia, Yuval Noah Harari, Malcolm Gladwell, Madeleine Albright, Cheryl Strayed, Jim Collins, Mary Karr, Maria Popova, Sam Harris, Michael Phelps, Bob Iger, Edward Norton, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Neil Strauss, Ken Burns, Maria Sharapova, Marc Andreessen, Neil Gaiman, Neil de Grasse Tyson, Jocko Willink, Daniel Ek, Kelly Slater, Dr. Peter Attia, Seth Godin, Howard Marks, Dr. Brené Brown, Eric Schmidt, Michael Lewis, Joe Gebbia, Michael Pollan, Dr. Jordan Peterson, Vince Vaughn, Brian Koppelman, Ramit Sethi, Dax Shepard, Tony Robbins, Jim Dethmer, Dan Harris, Ray Dalio, Naval Ravikant, Vitalik Buterin, Elizabeth Lesser, Amanda Palmer, Katie Haun, Sir Richard Branson, Chuck Palahniuk, Arianna Huffington, Reid Hoffman, Bill Burr, Whitney Cummings, Rick Rubin, Dr. Vivek Murthy, Darren Aronofsky, and many more. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Tonal is a smart home gym that delivers up to 200 pounds of resistance without metal weights or barbells.
00:00 - 04:25 (04:25)
Summary
Tonal is a smart home gym that delivers up to 200 pounds of resistance without metal weights or barbells. It offers at least 150 different exercises and can automatically adjust weights for eccentric training.
Episode#498: Josh Waitzkin and Tim Ferriss on The Cave Process, Advice from Future Selves, and Training for an Uncertain Future
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
The speaker recommends a clothing brand for yoga and running, highlighting its durability and comfortable design.
04:25 - 10:06 (05:41)
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The speaker recommends a clothing brand for yoga and running, highlighting its durability and comfortable design.
Episode#498: Josh Waitzkin and Tim Ferriss on The Cave Process, Advice from Future Selves, and Training for an Uncertain Future
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
When assessing startups, Jason Calacanis looks beyond a pitch deck's content and instead spots weaknesses and red flags in the team's bios.
10:06 - 19:29 (09:23)
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When assessing startups, Jason Calacanis looks beyond a pitch deck's content and instead spots weaknesses and red flags in the team's bios. He also emphasizes the importance of energy management over time management and experimenting with easier termination clauses.
Episode#498: Josh Waitzkin and Tim Ferriss on The Cave Process, Advice from Future Selves, and Training for an Uncertain Future
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
Comedians and other successful individuals may have difficulty addressing personal pain and dysfunction since they fear it may affect their professional contributions that involve the insights gained from this pain, which is a challenging position to be in.
19:29 - 26:31 (07:02)
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Comedians and other successful individuals may have difficulty addressing personal pain and dysfunction since they fear it may affect their professional contributions that involve the insights gained from this pain, which is a challenging position to be in. Eccentricity is often used as a pleasant euphemism for "crazy" when referring to successful people.
Episode#498: Josh Waitzkin and Tim Ferriss on The Cave Process, Advice from Future Selves, and Training for an Uncertain Future
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
In this episode, Tim shares a story about how organizing his pens led to a realization about his wounds and superpowers, and how they are often closely related.
26:31 - 31:02 (04:31)
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In this episode, Tim shares a story about how organizing his pens led to a realization about his wounds and superpowers, and how they are often closely related.
Episode#498: Josh Waitzkin and Tim Ferriss on The Cave Process, Advice from Future Selves, and Training for an Uncertain Future
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
The speaker believes that effectiveness is about choosing the right things while efficiency is about doing something really well.
31:02 - 36:45 (05:42)
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The speaker believes that effectiveness is about choosing the right things while efficiency is about doing something really well. He emphasizes the importance of being aware of one's own context in conveying information to others.
Episode#498: Josh Waitzkin and Tim Ferriss on The Cave Process, Advice from Future Selves, and Training for an Uncertain Future
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
The podcast host reflects on the idea of changing the conditions of his life to simplify it and make it more enjoyable without losing efficiency, as well as the impact of competition in achieving happiness.
36:45 - 44:11 (07:25)
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The podcast host reflects on the idea of changing the conditions of his life to simplify it and make it more enjoyable without losing efficiency, as well as the impact of competition in achieving happiness.
Episode#498: Josh Waitzkin and Tim Ferriss on The Cave Process, Advice from Future Selves, and Training for an Uncertain Future
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
The feeling of floating downstream after letting go of control can be experienced with the use of certain psychedelics, but cannot be fully described to those who have not had such experiences, as it involves the dissolution of one's concept of self, time, and space.
44:11 - 55:20 (11:08)
Summary
The feeling of floating downstream after letting go of control can be experienced with the use of certain psychedelics, but cannot be fully described to those who have not had such experiences, as it involves the dissolution of one's concept of self, time, and space.
Episode#498: Josh Waitzkin and Tim Ferriss on The Cave Process, Advice from Future Selves, and Training for an Uncertain Future
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
The addiction is a consequence of pain and trying to mask it.
55:19 - 1:03:50 (08:30)
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The addiction is a consequence of pain and trying to mask it. The Cave Process is essentially sitting in a space that is empty enough to get away from the inertia or reactivity.
Episode#498: Josh Waitzkin and Tim Ferriss on The Cave Process, Advice from Future Selves, and Training for an Uncertain Future
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
This podcast episode explores the importance of embracing joy and family, as well as the impact it can have on children's worldview.
1:03:50 - 1:09:28 (05:38)
Summary
This podcast episode explores the importance of embracing joy and family, as well as the impact it can have on children's worldview. The host also discusses moving from a feeling of obligation and responsibility to a focus on deepening relationships.
Episode#498: Josh Waitzkin and Tim Ferriss on The Cave Process, Advice from Future Selves, and Training for an Uncertain Future
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
Author Josh Waitzkin explains how focusing on the principles underlying techniques can lead to versatility and make it easier to reinvent new techniques as opposed to solely relying on fixed techniques.
1:09:28 - 1:15:33 (06:04)
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Author Josh Waitzkin explains how focusing on the principles underlying techniques can lead to versatility and make it easier to reinvent new techniques as opposed to solely relying on fixed techniques.
Episode#498: Josh Waitzkin and Tim Ferriss on The Cave Process, Advice from Future Selves, and Training for an Uncertain Future
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
Alex Honnold opens up about how having a dog has taught him unconditional love and helped him remove emotional armor.
1:15:33 - 1:20:48 (05:15)
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Alex Honnold opens up about how having a dog has taught him unconditional love and helped him remove emotional armor. He also reflects on how he projected his own issues onto his dog during training and emphasizes dogs as blank slates to project love and positivity onto.
Episode#498: Josh Waitzkin and Tim Ferriss on The Cave Process, Advice from Future Selves, and Training for an Uncertain Future
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
Tonal delivers up to 200 pounds of resistance in a device smaller than a flat screen TV, making it a versatile piece of equipment for a variety of workouts.
1:20:48 - 1:26:29 (05:40)
Summary
Tonal delivers up to 200 pounds of resistance in a device smaller than a flat screen TV, making it a versatile piece of equipment for a variety of workouts. Additionally, the speaker recommends the men's core short from Tonal's athletic wear line as a comfortable and durable option for multiple sports.
Episode#498: Josh Waitzkin and Tim Ferriss on The Cave Process, Advice from Future Selves, and Training for an Uncertain Future
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
Tonal is a smart home gym that offers personalized programs using artificial intelligence and other smart features to check your form in real time.
1:26:29 - 1:27:28 (00:59)
Summary
Tonal is a smart home gym that offers personalized programs using artificial intelligence and other smart features to check your form in real time. It also has a growing library of expert-led workouts that include strength training to cardio exercises.