Episode
#410: Ryan Holiday — Turning the Tables
2:05:26
Published: Thu Feb 13 2020
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Ryan Holiday — Turning the Tables | Brought to you by LinkedIn Jobs and 99designs.Welcome to The Tim Ferriss Show! It is — usually — my job to sit down with world-class performers of all different types to tease out the habits, routines, favorite books, and so on that you can apply and test in your own life. This time we have a "turning the tables" episode. What does that mean? Well, I will not be the one doing the interviewing. Instead, I will be the one being interviewed by my friend, Ryan Holiday.So who is this Ryan fella?Ryan Holiday (TW/IG: @RyanHoliday) is one of the world's foremost thinkers and writers on ancient philosophy and its place in modern life. He is a sought-after speaker and strategist and the author of many bestselling books, including The Obstacle Is the Way, Ego Is the Enemy, and The Daily Stoic. His books have been translated into more than 30 languages and have sold more than two million copies worldwide. He lives with his family outside of Austin, Texas. You can subscribe to receive his writing at RyanHoliday.net and DailyStoic.com. Ryan was also the fourth-ever guest on the podcast in the very beginning, and he has written multiple popular guest posts for my blog, which you can find at tim.blog.His latest book is Stillness Is the Key, which was an instant #1 New York Times bestseller and Wall Street Journal bestseller.I also recommend checking out the interview on YouTube, if you like, as I made sure to have video from multiple angles for this episode. Just go to youtube.com/timferriss.Please enjoy!This episode is brought to you by LinkedIn Jobs. Hiring can be hard, and it and be super expensive and painful if you get it wrong. Today, with more qualified candidates than ever — but also more noise than ever — employers need a hiring solution that helps them find the right people for their businesses. LinkedIn Jobs provides just that by screening candidates with the hard and soft skills you’re looking for so you can quickly find and hire the right person.LinkedIn can make sure your job post gets in front of people you want to hire — people with the skills, qualifications, and other insights that help LinkedIn paint a better picture of potential candidates. It’s no wonder great candidates are hired every eight seconds on LinkedIn. Find the right person meant for your business today with LinkedIn Jobs. You can pay what you want, and the first $50 is on LinkedIn. Just visit LinkedIn.com/Tim to get $50 off your first job post! Terms and conditions apply.This podcast is also brought to you by 99designs, the global creative platform that makes it easy for designers and clients to work together to create designs they love. Its creative process has become the go-to solution for businesses, agencies, and individuals, and I have used it for years to help with display advertising and illustrations and to rapid prototype the cover for The Tao of Seneca. Whether your business needs a logo, website design, business card, or anything you can imagine, check out 99designs.You can work with multiple designers at once to get a bunch of different ideas, or hire the perfect designer for your project based on their style and industry specialization. It's simple to review concepts and leave feedback so you'll end up with a design that you're happy with. Click this link and get $20 off plus a $99 upgrade.***If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes? 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LinkedIn Jobs helps employers find qualified candidates efficiently by screening them for hard and soft skills as well as utilizing business-specific data points.
00:00 - 02:00 (02:00)
Summary
LinkedIn Jobs helps employers find qualified candidates efficiently by screening them for hard and soft skills as well as utilizing business-specific data points.
Episode#410: Ryan Holiday — Turning the Tables
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
Tim Ferriss talks about his beginner's guides to stoic philosophy available on his blog and his weekly email newsletter, Five-Bullet Fridays, where he shares cool things he found that week including apps, books, supplements, and more.
02:00 - 10:33 (08:33)
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Tim Ferriss talks about his beginner's guides to stoic philosophy available on his blog and his weekly email newsletter, Five-Bullet Fridays, where he shares cool things he found that week including apps, books, supplements, and more.
Episode#410: Ryan Holiday — Turning the Tables
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
The speaker shares how training his dog helped him understand and control his emotional reactions, leading him to rely more on positive reinforcement and less on anger or blame towards others.
10:33 - 15:28 (04:55)
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The speaker shares how training his dog helped him understand and control his emotional reactions, leading him to rely more on positive reinforcement and less on anger or blame towards others.
Episode#410: Ryan Holiday — Turning the Tables
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
This podcast episode highlights the importance of training animals and children and developing empathy and understanding by putting oneself in other people's shoes.
15:28 - 20:57 (05:29)
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This podcast episode highlights the importance of training animals and children and developing empathy and understanding by putting oneself in other people's shoes.
Episode#410: Ryan Holiday — Turning the Tables
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
The speaker discusses the lack of empathy in city life towards the distress of babies and dogs.
20:57 - 24:41 (03:44)
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The speaker discusses the lack of empathy in city life towards the distress of babies and dogs. They call out the self-absorption of city life and how people need to become more aware of their surroundings.
Episode#410: Ryan Holiday — Turning the Tables
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
The conversation about diversity in Silicon Valley has been limited to race and gender, but diversity in lifestyle and beliefs is equally important.
24:41 - 30:13 (05:31)
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The conversation about diversity in Silicon Valley has been limited to race and gender, but diversity in lifestyle and beliefs is equally important. Monoconversation can lead to groupthink which produces a preaching-to-the-choir echo chamber.
Episode#410: Ryan Holiday — Turning the Tables
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
The increasing competition and difficulty of placing effective investments in angel investing led individuals to struggle with the high number of decks in the game in the form of bloated terms, higher prices, and foreign capital inflow.
30:13 - 39:38 (09:25)
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The increasing competition and difficulty of placing effective investments in angel investing led individuals to struggle with the high number of decks in the game in the form of bloated terms, higher prices, and foreign capital inflow.
Episode#410: Ryan Holiday — Turning the Tables
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
The speaker recounts his experiences with success and recognizing burnout in the midst of a competitive industry.
39:38 - 42:17 (02:39)
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The speaker recounts his experiences with success and recognizing burnout in the midst of a competitive industry. He reflects on the importance of asking oneself critical questions in order to prevent burnout and maintain balance in life.
Episode#410: Ryan Holiday — Turning the Tables
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
While dropping out of college is often romanticized for successful entrepreneurs like Zuckerberg and Thiel, it’s important to remember that they are the exception rather than the rule.
42:17 - 48:40 (06:23)
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While dropping out of college is often romanticized for successful entrepreneurs like Zuckerberg and Thiel, it’s important to remember that they are the exception rather than the rule. For most people, staying in school and obtaining a degree is still the safer and more practical choice for building a successful career.
Episode#410: Ryan Holiday — Turning the Tables
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
The key to separating good risk from bad risk is to look at the potential relationships that can transcend a project even if the project fails.
48:40 - 52:08 (03:28)
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The key to separating good risk from bad risk is to look at the potential relationships that can transcend a project even if the project fails. Good risk can be reduced by investing in high-quality equipment and minimizing unknowns.
Episode#410: Ryan Holiday — Turning the Tables
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
The speaker discusses their approach to investing in asymmetric bets while managing or eliminating risks and legal liability.
52:08 - 1:00:44 (08:36)
Summary
The speaker discusses their approach to investing in asymmetric bets while managing or eliminating risks and legal liability. They also share their perspective on focusing on the core aspects of contentment and taking advantage of investment opportunities with high potential returns.
Episode#410: Ryan Holiday — Turning the Tables
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
The speaker shares their realization that one of the reasons for their bad decisions in the past was the lack of attention to energetic management, and how important it is even as they get older.
1:00:44 - 1:04:12 (03:28)
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The speaker shares their realization that one of the reasons for their bad decisions in the past was the lack of attention to energetic management, and how important it is even as they get older.
Episode#410: Ryan Holiday — Turning the Tables
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
The podcast discusses the importance of prioritizing experiments to determine one's likes and interests before dedicating a significant amount of time to future plans.
1:04:12 - 1:11:31 (07:19)
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The podcast discusses the importance of prioritizing experiments to determine one's likes and interests before dedicating a significant amount of time to future plans. It also emphasizes the significance of avoiding any opportunities or jobs that involve bureaucracy, which drains one's batteries, and prioritizing quality of life at present.
Episode#410: Ryan Holiday — Turning the Tables
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
The importance of not only considering what you're good at, but also what experiences you want to have in your limited time alive is discussed, as well as the concept of reflecting on present experiences from a future perspective.
1:11:31 - 1:17:59 (06:28)
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The importance of not only considering what you're good at, but also what experiences you want to have in your limited time alive is discussed, as well as the concept of reflecting on present experiences from a future perspective.
Episode#410: Ryan Holiday — Turning the Tables
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
The expected value of a low probability outcome may not be as high as one thinks, and it's important to determine if the potential payout is worth the decision.
1:17:59 - 1:24:25 (06:26)
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The expected value of a low probability outcome may not be as high as one thinks, and it's important to determine if the potential payout is worth the decision. Consider the long-term consequences and personal values before making a decision with a potentially high reward but also a significant risk.
Episode#410: Ryan Holiday — Turning the Tables
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
The podcast discusses how young people tend to associate happiness with accomplishments, while reflecting on the importance of considering what will matter when we are old and our mortality becomes more apparent.
1:24:25 - 1:30:45 (06:20)
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The podcast discusses how young people tend to associate happiness with accomplishments, while reflecting on the importance of considering what will matter when we are old and our mortality becomes more apparent.
Episode#410: Ryan Holiday — Turning the Tables
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
The game in basketball has changed in the last half decade, and it’s not just about the physics of shooting a three-pointer better.
1:30:45 - 1:37:50 (07:05)
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The game in basketball has changed in the last half decade, and it’s not just about the physics of shooting a three-pointer better. Similarly, in product development, firms like IDO and frog design have developed processes that ask the right questions to create successful products.
Episode#410: Ryan Holiday — Turning the Tables
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
The speaker discusses their team's efforts to gather information and ask questions from parties with different incentives in order to learn from their networks of smart people and gain a better understanding of their industry or field.
1:37:50 - 1:43:34 (05:43)
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The speaker discusses their team's efforts to gather information and ask questions from parties with different incentives in order to learn from their networks of smart people and gain a better understanding of their industry or field.
Episode#410: Ryan Holiday — Turning the Tables
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
This podcast episode discusses a compilation post on everything related to writing, prepping, titling, publishing (self-publishing), marketing, and PR to help you publish a bestselling book this year.
1:43:34 - 1:45:53 (02:19)
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This podcast episode discusses a compilation post on everything related to writing, prepping, titling, publishing (self-publishing), marketing, and PR to help you publish a bestselling book this year. The usefulness of such a post is questioned, as the host has not tried it out.
Episode#410: Ryan Holiday — Turning the Tables
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
The host shares his thoughts on the flawed logic of forcing oneself to finish a book they don't enjoy under the assumption that it somehow makes them a better reader.
1:45:53 - 1:52:59 (07:05)
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The host shares his thoughts on the flawed logic of forcing oneself to finish a book they don't enjoy under the assumption that it somehow makes them a better reader. He argues that it's important to let go of a book that isn't resonating with you and move onto something that does.
Episode#410: Ryan Holiday — Turning the Tables
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
The speaker discusses the benefits of focusing on studying things that have endured instead of current events, citing less stress and better mental health as examples.
1:52:59 - 2:00:24 (07:24)
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The speaker discusses the benefits of focusing on studying things that have endured instead of current events, citing less stress and better mental health as examples. He also explains how making public commitments helps him stay accountable in his decision-making.
Episode#410: Ryan Holiday — Turning the Tables
PodcastThe Tim Ferriss Show
LinkedIn Jobs uses candidate screening to help employers quickly find and hire the right people, based on specified hard and soft skills.
2:00:24 - 2:05:19 (04:55)
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LinkedIn Jobs uses candidate screening to help employers quickly find and hire the right people, based on specified hard and soft skills.